Is it not time now for Mumsnet to leave X/Twitter?

Rubbish, clearly you have never worked for a large organisation. It will be a commercial decision.

Is this a dont let the door hit you on the arse on the way out moment for you?

If so you could ask MN to move your thread to the flounsers corner
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/flouncers_corner

Virtue signaling.

TBH you lost the argument when you accused people who are on X of being trump/musk fans.

It reminds me of the person years ago who, when I said I didn’t boycott nestle, accused me of being “proud not to care about babies in the 3rd world.”

You just can’t think like that. People use platforms because they’re useful to them. And whether we like it or not, many, many organisations and companies absolutely do use them, and Bluesky is far too cluttered and nowhere near relevant enough for companies to have a meaningful presence on it. Whereas people do still recognise x/twitter as a platform, even among the toxicity which exists on there.

And that toxicity will carry across to Bluesky if it keeps going, that’s guaranteed, because all social media is up there. Twitter/facebook/instagram/tiktok/even YouTube. Nowhere is untouched, it’s just so for differing reasons.

X has lost 15% of its user base in the past year. Even big brands have to decide where to focus their resources.

So what is the reason for household brands, councils, charities, withdrawing in your opinion?

It’s an echo chamber of the far right.

Someone should probably mention that to JK Rowling and some of the Jewish/black/gay people I follow on there. Maybe they’re too stupid to realise? Maybe you could save them from themselves?

Any time the topic of X comes up there are some voices insisting it’s terrible to be on there and no one is on there any more. But that just isn’t true. Many, many official bodies are still using it, and so are loads of normal individuals who are not focused on politics at all and certainly aren’t “far right”. As I said, I deleted my own account years ago so I’m not speaking from any personal investment in the site, but I find it very disingenuous to see it represented like this.

Go ahead - you do you, as they say, but please do not profess to speak on behalf of MN or its members.

I don’t think it would signal to the world anything really

Twitter is useful, especially for those of us who are keen to avoid group think, which should be everyone, I find the algorithm shows me what feels like quite random things. I am not a fan of ‘must follow the progressive line’ environments, is blue sky like that? I did used to be a progressive, but now it’s more like negotiating with terrorists.

I agree MN should come off X. Many other organisations have already chosen to do so. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tech/which-brands-quit-x-twitter-elon-musk-guardian-npr-balenciaga-b1193886.html

It is no longer somewhere bodies who want to be taken seriously are posting as much

@singlewhitetrashheap @floormops I agree it’s important to point this out.

But at the moment, Instagram and to a declining extent Facebook, are necessary to have a presence on, for comercial reasons. There are no good replacements yet. Whereas X has rapidly become irrelevant. It’s an echo chamber of the far right.

If Mumsnet stopped posting on X, it would probably have little effect on their revenue and signal to the world that they don’t stand for facism.

This. Facebook were warned repeatedly about the hatred being whipped up on FB towards the Rohinga (sorry, not sure if spelling correct), based on complete fabrication, they did not care one bit. Facebook is dreadful and IMO worse than Twitter/ X.
The hatred of women and the death and rape threats on Twitter, pre- Musk were worse than what is now on X. (That is not an expression of support fot Musk).
Unfortunately free speech allows the expression of the worst of humanity.

Quite apart from lining the pockets of a fascist, the productive discourse that actually strengthens connections between people and benefits humanity, has moved to other platforms. All of the companies / charities I’m involved with bar one, has stopped updating X and has redirects in place to their other social media accounts.

Precisely.

Hive mind.

I’m not on X and haven’t been for years (ie not someone who left in response to Elon), and certainly not a fan of Musk, or of Trump. But I think trying to pressure MN to leave a site is really weird. If it makes sense for them as a business to stay on X, they should stay. There are many, many women still using X (not least, JK Rowling!), especially active feminists and many American women. Plus, Bluesky is not a good replacement as it’s focused around an especially echo-chamber type of social media behaviour. That’s not to say MN shouldn’t join and try to build a presence there, but it isn’t like for like with X.

Group think, anyone?

I’ve been on Twitter pretty much since it started (Tweetdeck, anyone?) but in recent years have used it less and less. Didn’t like the way it had changed generally. But when Musk bought it, decided it really wasn’t a place for me

Well anyone else would just leave, not try to dictate to Mumsnet that they should leave also. Who do you think you are?

I am not a fan of Musk but I do like X and if it’s good enough for the queen - JK Rowling then it’s good enough for me.

Mumsnet is a business and probably not into petty virtue signalling cancel culture.

Is MN homogenous?

Which values?

Being on twitter isn't about being a trump / Elon fan.

MN are a commercial business who should probably have presence on multiple social media outlets in order to reach a wide range of people including people who have different views to you.

They are starting to have a global presence.

It makes no sense to suddenly decide to go on full cancel culture - they've not before and don't seem to believe in it.

What would be better would be for you to suggest that they start a BlueSky presence.

I am not a trump or Elon fan. Far from it. But I'd be very unimpressed with MN if they suddenly decided to jump on the righteous cancellation bandwagon after everything.

Echo chambers are exceptionally unhealthy. They allow scandals to happen.

Exactly this

Yes, this! My God, just when I think MN has reached peak bonkers, a new height is scaled. Sheer lunacy.