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Option to see 25 posts per page has gone.

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EarsUpTailUp · 05/03/2025 10:01

I can only see lots of posts with an option to load more.

On safari, iPhone 6, customised settings are set to 25 per page.

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Onlycoffee · 06/03/2025 22:41

This endless pageless scrolling is actual madness. I thought it was a glitch, not an actual feature.

Far too much scrolling to get to the reply box.

No actual way to know where you are in a thread or ability to get back to a post you might want to quote. Just endless scrolling.

Very disorientating.

You might want to read up on why Amazon added location, page numbers and timer to end of chapter/book.

Shitgift · 06/03/2025 22:40

Another in agreement it will drastically reduce my use of the site, it's unusable and any post that has more than 50 replies, I probably won't bother with. Also as other said it's particularly irksome on the telly addicts sub topic.

I've never sought out Site Stuff before but did to see if there was a thread about how annoying this change is.

Flev · 06/03/2025 22:37

Can I have my pages back too please?

Sure, I can glance at the number of posts to know how long a thread is, but once I start reading in this horrible new format I have no sense of how far through I am and it feels really stressful - I don't know whether to give up or whether I'm nearly at the end. Normally I get to the end of a page and then decide whether to change to just reading OP updates, keep reading, skip forward or bail out - but you've removed these natural pauses. By all means offer this as an option - even make it the default option if you want - but why is removing our choice any sort of positive here? This thread has shown how different people interact differently with your site, and previously you let us do this - now we have a "one size fits some" approach. And it doesn't work for all.

baroqueandblue · 06/03/2025 22:23

Just to add, FYI, at the moment when I refresh this (horribly long!) page to go to my bookmarked post, it briefly lands on the bookmarked post before instantly bouncing back to the top of the thread. Not useful.

baroqueandblue · 06/03/2025 22:18

SueMumsnet · 06/03/2025 12:59

It's intended to make it easier for people to read the whole thread. Rather than having to click buttons to scroll through multiple pages, you just keep scrolling down the page. It's pretty common across the internet. Many many users have told us they like all posts to be on one page without having to scroll through pages. And yes, we've done lots of testing with lots of users.

What you're referring to as "pretty common across the Internet" is called 'endless scroll' and there are very valid criticisms of it, including those mentioned in the screen shot I took from Google search. I want to ask MN, in your desire to be more like other sites using this questionable model, have you unwittingly overlooked its negative aspects, or just decided to ignore them? At the very least, I feel strongly that you should allow your users to retain the option of the paged format.

Option to see 25 posts per page has gone.
JadeSeahorse · 06/03/2025 20:38

So pleased to have found this thread as I seriously thought there was something wrong with my system.

Sorry but I loved being able to just click on a thread and then just hit the last page number to read the latest posts. Just can't get my head around what the "improvement" is supposed to be but admit to being a not very technical oldie.

The posts are loading really slowly too! ☹️.

Hate it! 😡

Brefugee · 06/03/2025 19:54

andyouwillknowusbythetrailofdead · 06/03/2025 19:28

One of the ideas behind it is that it'll lead to fewer people posting irrelevant crap

What a lovely way to speak about your users, without whom there would be no MN.

i wonder how they work that out though? i can imagine much more irrelevant crap along the "cancel the cheque" and "rtft" lines.

Cycleorrun · 06/03/2025 19:30

Yay! I've got my number buttons back! Thank you Mumsnet.

andyouwillknowusbythetrailofdead · 06/03/2025 19:28

One of the ideas behind it is that it'll lead to fewer people posting irrelevant crap

What a lovely way to speak about your users, without whom there would be no MN.

AdmittowearingCrocs · 06/03/2025 19:13

Thank you for restoring my pages 😀

UnimaginableWindBird · 06/03/2025 19:09

If there's an option to opt out and get my pages back, please include me.

Brefugee · 06/03/2025 18:38

thank you - have my pages back now!

Brefugee · 06/03/2025 17:22

Am jealous of those with their pages back 😭

Cycleorrun · 06/03/2025 17:18

AlexandrinaH · 06/03/2025 17:00

Yes but apparently it makes it easier to read threads 😂.

Not for everyone, clearly.

Not for me I'm afraid. I'm another one who finds page numbers easy to navigate from. They also give you information on how quickly a thread is moving. This test method is just a clueless jumble for me. I'd lose patience in no time.

AlexandrinaH · 06/03/2025 17:00

Cycleorrun · 06/03/2025 16:11

Is this test why I can no longer see page number buttons on my android phone? It suddenly happened yesterday. It's awful if you are trying to follow a thread with lots of posts. There is no way to get orientated. It's still working properly on my tablet. If it all goes like my phone it will be ruined for me. It's impossible to keep picking up a long thread from where you left it. Overwhelming on a fast moving thread.
If that has to be the way forward for you, so be it. I should miss you. Thank you for providing such a great site up to now.

Yes but apparently it makes it easier to read threads 😂.

Not for everyone, clearly.

ExtraDecluttering · 06/03/2025 16:56

EarsUpTailUp · 06/03/2025 14:44

I know you didn’t ask me, but I’d like to explain what I usually do when I’m reading certain threads, as it’s impossible with this all posts all at once thing.

I tend to post on threads that I’m really interested in, and very often a poster will write something so eloquently and in a way that makes me think (sometimes it’s my own post that I feel proud of writing 😂), and I like to go back to reread and process it (I’m autistic, it can take a while to thoroughly process something), so for example I’m currently on a schools thread that’s very close to home (in a mental sense, not geographical!), and I find reading some different opinions several times, and in relation to replies (good or bad) and how the conversation goes, it helps me to develop a better understanding of the subject, of where other posters are coming from, and points me in certain directions to learn more about it.

I do this by knowing where certain posts are and going to the page number to find them again, as often as I need/want to.

I can’t do this now, and it’s frustrating, and it means my MN experience is now lacking. Not wanting to sound manipulative at all, but the change is really difficult to deal with, and not being able to go back to specific pages is really stressing me out!

This is interesting because it's the opposite for me, I wouldn't have a clue what page they are on but I can always remember a keyword and very easily find it using my browser search IF I have it switched to all posts. Like you I do quite often want to do this. But I keep it to 50 post / page as default so it loads faster when I am on data instead of wifi and have long been frustrated about not boing able to find things because I have no idea what page they are on. I think I am possibly going to prefer the new way because for me it will be a lot easier to find specific posts (I haven't got it yet though).

I also don't think it will be a problem using number of posts to see how long a thread is as opposed to number of pages as that's what I tend to do anyway when looking at most active. But I do like them for knowing how far into a long thread I am when I am reading and I don't see how that would work in the new system, how will you know how far though you are?

The main thing I want to keep is that if you click on a title in TIO it takes you back to the next unread post. I find bookmarks very clunky to use and only use them on threads that I haven't posted on but want to keep reading.

Iwishiwasapolarbear · 06/03/2025 16:41

I have pages back too! Thank you!!

Cycleorrun · 06/03/2025 16:11

Is this test why I can no longer see page number buttons on my android phone? It suddenly happened yesterday. It's awful if you are trying to follow a thread with lots of posts. There is no way to get orientated. It's still working properly on my tablet. If it all goes like my phone it will be ruined for me. It's impossible to keep picking up a long thread from where you left it. Overwhelming on a fast moving thread.
If that has to be the way forward for you, so be it. I should miss you. Thank you for providing such a great site up to now.

EarsUpTailUp · 06/03/2025 16:10

I have pages back 😭😭
Thank you so much. Please let it be permanent! 🙏

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Iwishiwasapolarbear · 06/03/2025 15:58

Can I be removed from the test group too please? Thank you

AdmittowearingCrocs · 06/03/2025 15:49

SueMumsnet · 06/03/2025 15:37

this is super useful to know - thank you

I hear you on the stressful - I'm going to look at whether/how we can remove people from the test group. It's also definitely an option that if this does get rolled out further that we can have a setting where you don't have it.

Please can you remove me from the test group? If you cannot, I just won’t use the site anymore as for me, it is no longer user friendly.

TheTwirlyPoos · 06/03/2025 15:43

I hate it! Sorry!!

SueMumsnet · 06/03/2025 15:38

FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 06/03/2025 14:56

No.

Here is the screen shot of what I see. I navigate to my pages through "threads I'm on"

One screenshot shows all my threads - and the one I'm running. No clue as to total just how many new posts.

Second thread shows where it goes when I click (to my point in the thread presumably) again no idea of how many posts.

Where do I see how many pits there are and when do I need to start a new thread (I used to post a new thread when it got to the last page!)

that's really helpful thank you - I understand - you don't see the number of replies at the top because you're coming in half way down the thread....but you always saw the number of pages...

SueMumsnet · 06/03/2025 15:37

EarsUpTailUp · 06/03/2025 14:44

I know you didn’t ask me, but I’d like to explain what I usually do when I’m reading certain threads, as it’s impossible with this all posts all at once thing.

I tend to post on threads that I’m really interested in, and very often a poster will write something so eloquently and in a way that makes me think (sometimes it’s my own post that I feel proud of writing 😂), and I like to go back to reread and process it (I’m autistic, it can take a while to thoroughly process something), so for example I’m currently on a schools thread that’s very close to home (in a mental sense, not geographical!), and I find reading some different opinions several times, and in relation to replies (good or bad) and how the conversation goes, it helps me to develop a better understanding of the subject, of where other posters are coming from, and points me in certain directions to learn more about it.

I do this by knowing where certain posts are and going to the page number to find them again, as often as I need/want to.

I can’t do this now, and it’s frustrating, and it means my MN experience is now lacking. Not wanting to sound manipulative at all, but the change is really difficult to deal with, and not being able to go back to specific pages is really stressing me out!

this is super useful to know - thank you

I hear you on the stressful - I'm going to look at whether/how we can remove people from the test group. It's also definitely an option that if this does get rolled out further that we can have a setting where you don't have it.

FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 06/03/2025 14:56

SueMumsnet · 06/03/2025 14:20

Totally understand. And does the number of replies that's next to the thread title not do this?

No.

Here is the screen shot of what I see. I navigate to my pages through "threads I'm on"

One screenshot shows all my threads - and the one I'm running. No clue as to total just how many new posts.

Second thread shows where it goes when I click (to my point in the thread presumably) again no idea of how many posts.

Where do I see how many pits there are and when do I need to start a new thread (I used to post a new thread when it got to the last page!)

Option to see 25 posts per page has gone.
Option to see 25 posts per page has gone.