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Can we have some sort of 'warning' for people who repeatedly post without reading all of OP's posts?

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HyggeTygge · 02/01/2025 11:25

In the last 3 months or so I think this has gotten so much worse. Not only does it fill up the thread with pointless posts that have been addressed (sometimes days or weeks beforehand), it can actually be quite horrible - in one case a woman being slagged off because a few posters didn't read her sympathetic circumstances.

Could there be a 'report' reason just for this, and perhaps the posts don't need to be removed (but they could be?) but the user asked to 'see all' of OP's posts in future and shown how to do it? And repeat offenders suspended....?!

Or could it even be a note before posting if you go straight to post on a page where you couldn't possibly have read all of OP's posts?

I know it's easy to do, and obviously sometimes OP will update while people are in the process of typing and posting or they haven't refreshed. But when it keeps happening it's really frustrating on a thread and good helpful posts get missed in all the 'OP has actually updated to say this' 'well how was I supposed to know' derails.

'Cancel the cheque!!!' is still as much of an issue now as it was back then!

OP posts:
BarbaraHoward · 03/01/2025 08:20

saraclara · 03/01/2025 07:59

I've just come away from a thread where the OP had originally been incredibly unreasonable in a situation with her SIL. She was faced with a barrage of very blunt responses in her thread, but instead of running away and saying 'you're all horrible' she actually listened, found it hard, but reflected, recognised where her behaviour had come from, was mortified, and has done a U turn and apologised to the family member.

However she's still having to face posts from people who haven't bothered reading beyond the OP and are continuing to berate her. It's all so unnecessary.

Edited

The one that always sticks in my memory is the woman who posted about unexplained bloating. As she documented her diagnosis with and treatment of ultimately fatal ovarian cancer over a period of months, posters would pop up suggesting she cut out gluten.

Always, always at least scan the OP's posts before commenting.

EmpressaurusKitty · 03/01/2025 08:14

saraclara · 03/01/2025 07:59

I've just come away from a thread where the OP had originally been incredibly unreasonable in a situation with her SIL. She was faced with a barrage of very blunt responses in her thread, but instead of running away and saying 'you're all horrible' she actually listened, found it hard, but reflected, recognised where her behaviour had come from, was mortified, and has done a U turn and apologised to the family member.

However she's still having to face posts from people who haven't bothered reading beyond the OP and are continuing to berate her. It's all so unnecessary.

Edited

I hate it when that happens. I think OPs are best off hiding the thread in that case.

saraclara · 03/01/2025 07:59

I've just come away from a thread where the OP had originally been incredibly unreasonable in a situation with her SIL. She was faced with a barrage of very blunt responses in her thread, but instead of running away and saying 'you're all horrible' she actually listened, found it hard, but reflected, recognised where her behaviour had come from, was mortified, and has done a U turn and apologised to the family member.

However she's still having to face posts from people who haven't bothered reading beyond the OP and are continuing to berate her. It's all so unnecessary.

IdylicDay · 03/01/2025 00:25

If an app is not fit for purpose, then Mumsnet should not have it at all. Why have an app that doesn't even have the functions it should.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 23:04

SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 22:57

Ok but that doesn't change what I'm saying.

They're not going to do any of this anyway so really this thread is just "things posters do that annoy the hell out of me "

SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 22:57

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 22:23

Given their inability to remove racist anti-Irish posts, they're obviously not that busy doing that.

Ok but that doesn't change what I'm saying.

Lifestooshort71 · 02/01/2025 22:34

I know I'm a bit of a technophobe but my android phone has a 'see all' option for the OP's posts - I always make a point of reading them all before commenting even if I cba to read all the repetitive comments.

RealHousewifeOfHull · 02/01/2025 22:27

Haven’t RTFT but have you thought about a spa day?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 22:23

SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 22:20

But again, I'd like to think they would be busier removing nasty/racist/abelist etc comments instead.

I just don't think they have the time to get involved to sooth mild irritation.

And then even if they did, posters who are irritated about other things would probably expect them to deal with those too.

Given their inability to remove racist anti-Irish posts, they're obviously not that busy doing that.

SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 22:20

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 22:05

That's exactly the sort of thing I mean. There are some threads where the majority of the posts are placemarking by saying something irrelevant or innane. Maybe on threads like that, MNHQ could post with instructions on how to watch a thread without cluttering it up.

But again, I'd like to think they would be busier removing nasty/racist/abelist etc comments instead.

I just don't think they have the time to get involved to sooth mild irritation.

And then even if they did, posters who are irritated about other things would probably expect them to deal with those too.

SwordToFlamethrower · 02/01/2025 22:06

Davros · 02/01/2025 14:27

It does on iPhone

I'm on android, obviously then!

FizzyBisto · 02/01/2025 22:05

Maybe 'placemarking' should be added to the instant hide list along with other words such as the sports shoes that sound a bit like Plymouth soles - at least make people work for it and be a little inventive if they're determined to clog up threads that way!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 22:05

SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 21:56

I used to think like that, but to be honest so many people placemark with something generic like 'Agreed', they may as well just put 'placemarking'.

That's exactly the sort of thing I mean. There are some threads where the majority of the posts are placemarking by saying something irrelevant or innane. Maybe on threads like that, MNHQ could post with instructions on how to watch a thread without cluttering it up.

FizzyBisto · 02/01/2025 22:02

I couldn't agree more. The Android app should be amended to allow it if it doesn't work, though; although I use an Android phone but in the browser.

I've tried to address this before to culprits in a kind, friendly way, but they usually get so angry and defensive and all "I'm a busy mum, dontchaknow" - and they genuinely cannot understand how they have been rude by weighing into a long conversation without having the basic decency and good manners to actually find out what it's about (beyond a title and single opening post - often they just skim the title and guess) and where it's developed to.

I wonder if some people think that MN is like Quora - so you have one opening post/question and a whole load of people replying in a vacuum to just that one post - rather than an actual discussion forum.

I don't think having a notice/warning about it would make any difference at all, sadly. The first rule of notices - however clear and prominent - is that the only people who ever see/bother to read them are the ones for whom they were never needed in the first place.

Drip feeding can be a problem, but it frequently isn’t to blame at all here. Situations and circumstances develop and new info is not known by anybody until things develop and progress and stuff has happened - often as a result of OP acting on advice and suggestions given in the thread. The ongoing Dyson Air Wrap threads, to name just two (or is it three yet?!).

I always remember the heartbreaking Anglesey thread when this kind of thing happens. When you chime in without being at all arsed to see how a thread has developed, your contribution may just be irrelevant and/or annoying; but in many instances, it can cause real upset to the OP and/or their loved ones when you just plough in, 600 messages in, and assume that you're psychic and instinctively know things without ever reading, hearing or learning them.

Oh well, I'd better go back on to the current films thread and inform the poster who made a genuine (and hardly groundbreaking) mistake that it was actually Art Garfunkel who sang Bright Eyes and not Paul McCartney. I know 20 people have already done this, but I just know that the message won't properly get through until I repeat it yet again...

SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 21:56

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 21:40

And can we add in some way of discouraging people from replying to placemark on a thread. The watch feature does the job perfectly well and doesn't result in a thread that fills up in 5 minutes.

I used to think like that, but to be honest so many people placemark with something generic like 'Agreed', they may as well just put 'placemarking'.

Justme2023123 · 02/01/2025 21:54

Shaun the sheep 😁

OchonAgusOchonOh · 02/01/2025 21:40

And can we add in some way of discouraging people from replying to placemark on a thread. The watch feature does the job perfectly well and doesn't result in a thread that fills up in 5 minutes.

Firenzeflower · 02/01/2025 21:24

Divorce him.

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 02/01/2025 21:24

I’d like to be able to partially quote rather than copying / pasting the bit I’m replying to in a longer post

HaddyAbrams · 02/01/2025 21:22

SabreIsMyFave · 02/01/2025 20:54

Yes I agree with this. I also think people should NOT be able to quote someone's post if it was less than 10 posts ago. I have seen this happen with mine and that of many others too. And if it's a long one it's soooo annoying. A ten-paragraph, 600 word post reposted within 2-3 minutes, and around 2-5 posts after! Ridiculous!

I've had a number of occasions where someone has reposted a post of mine within half a minute of me submitting it, and their post was directly after mine. WTAF was the point in reposting a post that someone has only just submitted? Especially one that's 500-600 words long?!

Not sure how MN is going to police people responding to the OP's first post with an answer people have already given though @HyggeTygge That will be a really tall order to police that. Can't see this happening. Then again, I can't see them policing people reposting someone's lengthy posts 30 seconds after they posted it either!

I either quote (or copy and paste the relevant part) of any post other than the OP so it's clear what I'm replying too.

Personally I hate it when someone just @s someone else, or even me. Chances are I can't remember what was said so the reply doesn't mean anything.

SabreIsMyFave · 02/01/2025 20:54

HyggeTygge · 02/01/2025 19:42

ABSOLUTELY agree you shouldn't be able to quote the OP either. That's literally what people are replying to unless they say otherwise!

Yes I agree with this. I also think people should NOT be able to quote someone's post if it was less than 10 posts ago. I have seen this happen with mine and that of many others too. And if it's a long one it's soooo annoying. A ten-paragraph, 600 word post reposted within 2-3 minutes, and around 2-5 posts after! Ridiculous!

I've had a number of occasions where someone has reposted a post of mine within half a minute of me submitting it, and their post was directly after mine. WTAF was the point in reposting a post that someone has only just submitted? Especially one that's 500-600 words long?!

Not sure how MN is going to police people responding to the OP's first post with an answer people have already given though @HyggeTygge That will be a really tall order to police that. Can't see this happening. Then again, I can't see them policing people reposting someone's lengthy posts 30 seconds after they posted it either!

Gwenhwyfar · 02/01/2025 20:45

HyggeTygge · 02/01/2025 19:50

I disagree. Often it's clearly an ongoing situation, perhaps posted a day or more ago. They aren't going to be able to post updates before they happen - that's down to people who feel they need to contribute to the thread to read for themselves.

There are definitely people who post OPs and I (mentally) facepalm because they haven't included a lot of relevant info, but these aren't the threads I'm seeing that I'm talking about - if it's missing relevant info then people usually ask.

I agree it’s annoying but no, I don’t agree it should be policed. What next, disciplining people for spelling mistakes or leaving out apostrophes?

No, those aren't really conversation etiquette issues, so I don't think that would be a consequence of asking people to read the thing they are talking about.

Sometimes it's not an ongoing situation and it really is a case of a poorly written OP. For example, I'm currently on a thread where both things have happened. The poster is annoyed that a colleague threw away some of her things left on her desk when he had to use her desk. There are questions and questions either asking whether it's a shared desk or just asserting that it is when it isn't. OP could have avoided all that by specifying in the OP that it's her allocated desk, but colleagues occasionally use it temporarily.

On the other hand, there are other questions and comments about 'clear desk policy' trying to blame the OP for leaving papers on her desk in the first place. I wouldn't argue that OP should have specified that her organisation doesn't have a clear desk policy because people shouldn't be assuming that in the first place. In this case, it's up to posters to look at all the OP's posts to find out there is no clear desk policy. It does make for a very frustrating read.

gamerchick · 02/01/2025 20:17

Difficult at times, but still easier for us to do that than to keep getting moderators involved

I think this is what it keeps coming back too. Mumsnet doesn't have moderaters, we self moderate.

It comes down to making a choice. There are plenty of heavily moderated forums out there if that's what people want. We don't need it here.

HyggeTygge · 02/01/2025 20:14

I think as members we need to practice a little patience and learn to do a bit more scrolling by.
I agree, but in order to know that something is not worth reading, you need to read it first Grin

Not saying my ideas were the best ideas - perhaps making 'see all' more obvious somehow would cut it down a bit. I seem to recall a while ago people getting annoyed with Very Old Threads getting reanimated and no-one noticing the date, but that seems to have died down a little of its own accord (or I'm just not seeing them).

OP posts:
SmalllChange · 02/01/2025 20:09

HyggeTygge · 02/01/2025 19:56

I have no idea whether MN are over- or under-stretched enough to be able to add an additional radio button to the 'Report' page or not, hence posting here to ask. It could be an overwhelming ask, I don't know.

And yes, if threads continue to get derailed by people just bashing away at the keyboard regardless of what has been posted then I will stop finding it useful here and will go elsewhere. It would be a shame though as I've learned so much stuff from MN posters over the years, from the trivial to the essential.

Scroll back to the copy and past from MNHQ that I posted earlier.

They're very overstretched, and the Spam Bots seem to be taking up a lot of their time too.

I think as members we need to practice a little patience and learn to do a bit more scrolling by.

Difficult at times, but still easier for us to do that than to keep getting moderators involved.