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Please could you invite Hilary Cass?

134 replies

kiterunning · 16/10/2024 08:44

There are so many questions about the follow-up to her report.
It would be great to have a chance to clarify proposed treatment/therapy for children and also to thank her!

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SquirrelSoShiny · 18/10/2024 15:08

I'd be very interested in this.

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 18/10/2024 15:07

What a great idea, yes please!

GinintheBin · 18/10/2024 15:05

Yes please!

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/10/2024 14:46

SophiaCohle · 17/10/2024 19:06

I would personally be very interested in this but I can't believe she'd agree to it. Mumsnet is widely known as the last bastion of gender critical discussion and I would think there's a risk that appearing here would lay her open to criticisms of bias and tarnish her professional reputation. I know the trans ideologues already love to hate her but I'm thinking of her standing with politicians, the mainstream media and the medical establishment. But hey, she's a grown up and can decline if she thinks so too.

In 2018, Mumsnet had 1.3 billion page views from 119 million unique users, and a revenue of £8.6 million.[9]

I'm assuming it's the most used parenting website in the UK by a really long way. It might be known as gender critical but it's also probably the largest audience of parents, particularly mothers in the country by a country mile.

I'd love Baroness Cass to be asked a wider question about scientific and journalistic rigour and whether there is an increasing issue with neutrality and evidence-based research in both. Don't want to waste her time though. There will be better questions.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/10/2024 14:33

Another vote in favour - her report was hugely significant but was clearly only the start of a vast body of work needed. She's suggested some specifics in the report and it wouod be great to know her thoughts on what might be useful/necessary in the longer term. Would also be fascinating to know how her own views may have changed or been reinforced during the course of her research.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 18/10/2024 13:18

I would definitely be interested in this!

umbel · 18/10/2024 11:51

Would be really interested in this!

kiterunning · 18/10/2024 07:22

Thanks everyone for your support.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/10/2024 19:07

I would be super interested in this.

SophiaCohle · 17/10/2024 19:06

I would personally be very interested in this but I can't believe she'd agree to it. Mumsnet is widely known as the last bastion of gender critical discussion and I would think there's a risk that appearing here would lay her open to criticisms of bias and tarnish her professional reputation. I know the trans ideologues already love to hate her but I'm thinking of her standing with politicians, the mainstream media and the medical establishment. But hey, she's a grown up and can decline if she thinks so too.

PronounsBaby · 17/10/2024 18:16

Yes please

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/10/2024 17:55

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/10/2024 17:16

Dame Hilary is a woman who’s made an important contribution to public life and to paediatric medicine so I think inviting her to a Mumsnet event is a great idea.

Is it feasible to do a livestream video event with Justine (or other host) posing questions from Mumsnetters? I think that would be a better format than the usual guest threads where fewer questions get answered because reading and typing responses takes longer than speaking.

Great idea!

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/10/2024 17:16

Dame Hilary is a woman who’s made an important contribution to public life and to paediatric medicine so I think inviting her to a Mumsnet event is a great idea.

Is it feasible to do a livestream video event with Justine (or other host) posing questions from Mumsnetters? I think that would be a better format than the usual guest threads where fewer questions get answered because reading and typing responses takes longer than speaking.

Theydontknowaboutus · 17/10/2024 13:05

Yes, would be interested

Runor · 17/10/2024 13:04

Yes, I would be really interested in this

Chrysanthemum5 · 17/10/2024 12:45

I think this would be great and a real opportunity to have a sensible conversation about this topic

DameMaud · 17/10/2024 12:15

BonfireLady · 17/10/2024 12:12

@VegasVagabond I hope you don't mind but I'm sharing your comment from a different thread here...

Obviously I don't expect Baroness Cass to be able to offer an opinion on what on earth might be going on here (she'll need to avoid answering it, I'm sure) but..... it's right up there on WTAF-ometer and adds an important context to this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5187824-new-childrens-gender-identity-clinic-clinical-trials-and-cass?reply=139097845&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

Yes BonfireLady, I was just reading that and thought it would be a highly pertinent question to raise; ie. In what ways can we have confidence that that the recommendations are being followed in practice, if there seems to be evidence counter to that.

musicalfrog · 17/10/2024 12:12

Yes please 🙏

BonfireLady · 17/10/2024 12:12

@VegasVagabond I hope you don't mind but I'm sharing your comment from a different thread here...

Obviously I don't expect Baroness Cass to be able to offer an opinion on what on earth might be going on here (she'll need to avoid answering it, I'm sure) but..... it's right up there on WTAF-ometer and adds an important context to this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5187824-new-childrens-gender-identity-clinic-clinical-trials-and-cass?reply=139097845&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

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VegasVagabond · 17/10/2024 12:04

This would be great.

It's a key area of debate for many on MN and there are varied views on here.
It would be great to see how Hilary Cass would respond to challenging questions about her work.
Bring it on, a range of questions representing varied viewpoints would be great to see.

WomenInConstruction · 17/10/2024 12:04

She took on a really challenging task, potentially quite a poisoned chalice and incredibly stressful but also important. And pulled it off very well. She must be quite an incredible lady, I would love to see / join in a conversation with her.

BonfireLady · 17/10/2024 12:01

MessinaBloom · 17/10/2024 11:00

@BonfireLady

A "plopper" is someone who asks a deliberately provocative/controversial question but doesn't return to join in the conversation.

One unintended consequence that ploppers will no doubt see (if they bother to really think about the types of responses that they get) is that there is no "echo chamber" at all. Often their OPs will generate vigorous debate, even though most/many people in the discussion share a common lack of belief that we all have a gender identity.

I know what a plopper is; I've been called one, even though I've engaged in the conversation. I've been called all kinds of names. I disagree on the echo chamber - there just isn't a diversity of posters or of thought. Anyone slightly different faces a wall of scorn.

Well, if it helps to know, I'm currently experiencing a repetition of "scorn" on a different thread. Hopefully it was just a single comment and won't snowball like it did last time I interacted directly with this person.

Anyway, back on topic: if you've got a question for Baroness Cass, please do add it in. Obviously it's worth checking she's not already covered it in her FAQs as it would be somewhat pointless (as it would for anyone else who did that).

ItReallyWasAgathaAllAlong · 17/10/2024 11:28

Yes please!

ellenback21 · 17/10/2024 11:18

Yes please.

MessinaBloom · 17/10/2024 11:00

@BonfireLady

A "plopper" is someone who asks a deliberately provocative/controversial question but doesn't return to join in the conversation.

One unintended consequence that ploppers will no doubt see (if they bother to really think about the types of responses that they get) is that there is no "echo chamber" at all. Often their OPs will generate vigorous debate, even though most/many people in the discussion share a common lack of belief that we all have a gender identity.

I know what a plopper is; I've been called one, even though I've engaged in the conversation. I've been called all kinds of names. I disagree on the echo chamber - there just isn't a diversity of posters or of thought. Anyone slightly different faces a wall of scorn.