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Board for high earners

309 replies

BellesAndGraces · 08/10/2024 19:53

I see that the other thread was started by an OP who wasn’t engaging in good faith. I certainly am so, Mumsnet, can we please have a separate board for high earners? It would be helpful for these threads to be in one place and to avoid them being high jacked by the inevitable “small violin” and “diamond shoes” comments.

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MixieMatchie · 08/10/2024 23:09

Yes, I mean people can be unsympathetic about all sorts of things. Who knows whether the OP of the latest parking thread, or whatever is dividing AIBU today, has also suffered a recent tragedy. I don't like snarkiness and meanness as a rule, and I don't think anyone should have to disclose personal tragedies in order to be treated with respect, but how could anyone know about your friend's situation? It feels a bit cheap (forgive the unintentional wordplay) to throw it in as an argument for having a rich person's board.

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:09

I don’t like the tiny violin posts myself but a lot of people are really struggling financially at the moment so it is hard to be sympathetic when you have very little to manage on.

No one is asking for sympathy though. Just for somewhere to discuss things without triggering other posters.

(It wasn’t my friend, it was the friend of another poster up-thread).

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 23:02

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 22:47

Well, if the threads were on a different board presumably they wouldn’t be so triggering to all those who pile on with “tiny violins”.

And equally it would be easier to suggest to someone who did pile on that if the topic upset them they might benefit from hiding it.

Then maybe you wouldn’t have someone who was asking for advice following her husbands suicide having to ask for her thread to be deleted.

Edited

I’m sorry your friend lost her husband in such awful circumstances (forgive me if I don’t scroll back to see if it was your friend or whether you are using the post about her as an example.) Generally, I find MN very supportive to people in difficulty. I’m not saying she should have disclosed her situation but people take the posts they read at face value so how could anyone know. I don’t like the tiny violin posts myself but a lot of people are really struggling financially at the moment so it is hard to be sympathetic when you have very little to manage on.

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 23:01

MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 22:55

People are being snarky because we have a big problem with wealth disparity in the UK which is becoming more stark, obvious and problematic. To come into a place where the likelihood of the majority being at the bottom of the scale and very often with limited opportunity to redress that to ask for a special place to talk about your money problems is going to get people’s ganders up. The fact that you are so prickly about the responses kinda demonstrates the point really. It’s the tone, it’s always about the tone.

https://www.jrf.org.uk/narrative-change/changing-the-narrative-on-wealth-inequality#:~:text=Wealth%20inequality%20is%20high%20and%20rising%20and%20more%20marked%20than,from%2052.5%25%20in%201995).

What’s the alternative that you would suggest? People above a certain income level should just be banned from posting?

Because it seems there is a problem with anyone with a higher income mentioning anything to do with it on general threads/topics and, judging by responses on this thread, no appetite to provide a separate area for discussion.

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 23:00

HughJarz · 08/10/2024 22:58

In the interests of fairness, there would then need to be a board for people who are properly rich without needing to do anything so mundane as work.

id be intrested to read that as its basically the way society is heading if various industries are replaced my robots and AI

Runnerinthenight · 08/10/2024 22:59

HughJarz · 08/10/2024 22:58

In the interests of fairness, there would then need to be a board for people who are properly rich without needing to do anything so mundane as work.

And one for those on benefits so that they could ask each other questions without (in theory!) getting bashed??

HughJarz · 08/10/2024 22:58

In the interests of fairness, there would then need to be a board for people who are properly rich without needing to do anything so mundane as work.

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 08/10/2024 22:57

PaydayJay · 08/10/2024 22:48

Alas, if you have to ask ...

Then you’re a povvo

or perhaps I could be on the cusp of being a ‘high earner’, 95k annual each, so close to living above the breadline.

spoiler alert… I’m a povvo

WindsurfingDreams · 08/10/2024 22:55

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:52

gingernuts

Grin
MurdoMunro · 08/10/2024 22:55

People are being snarky because we have a big problem with wealth disparity in the UK which is becoming more stark, obvious and problematic. To come into a place where the likelihood of the majority being at the bottom of the scale and very often with limited opportunity to redress that to ask for a special place to talk about your money problems is going to get people’s ganders up. The fact that you are so prickly about the responses kinda demonstrates the point really. It’s the tone, it’s always about the tone.

https://www.jrf.org.uk/narrative-change/changing-the-narrative-on-wealth-inequality#:~:text=Wealth%20inequality%20is%20high%20and%20rising%20and%20more%20marked%20than,from%2052.5%25%20in%201995).

Changing the narrative on wealth inequality

New approaches to framing wealth inequality as a social problem could build political pressure for change.

https://www.jrf.org.uk/narrative-change/changing-the-narrative-on-wealth-inequality#:~:text=Wealth%20inequality%20is%20high%20and%20rising%20and%20more%20marked%20than,from%2052.5%25%20in%201995).

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:53

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 22:52

So is that going to be applied to the ‘high earners’ board or all other boards as well? The mods are going to be very busy.

well thats upto mn hq

MixieMatchie · 08/10/2024 22:53

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:38

excatly, i mean people are there to aspire to people like alan sugar, richard branson etc so why not have high earning business women too to aspire too.

Well, who is stopping anyone from starting a thread about high earning women and their achievements?

I have seen a few AMAs from high earning Mumsnetters that have been really well received - the OP sharing her experience and answering questions about the kind of work she does and what it's like. Instead of snarky comments, people were genuinely interested and admiring.

Then you see the AMAs or threads which are not about work at all - they are just about being rich. There was one AMA about having a household income of £500k or similar, and it was like getting blood out of a stone to find out the source of the income (turned out to be the husband's scaffolding business). Instead, the OP just wanted to talk about how many ovens she had in her kitchen (four, iirc). Naturally, everyone took the piss out of this deeply dull showing off thread.

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:52

WindsurfingDreams · 08/10/2024 22:52

What kind of biscuit?

gingernuts

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 22:52

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:45

easy dont behave then insta ban

So is that going to be applied to the ‘high earners’ board or all other boards as well? The mods are going to be very busy.

WindsurfingDreams · 08/10/2024 22:52

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:43

its when people start taking the biscuit and not in the spirt of the thread that then causes issues

What kind of biscuit?

Iloveburgerswaymorethanishould · 08/10/2024 22:51

kittensinthekitchen · 08/10/2024 21:10

What if I'm not ginger, but Phil is?

Then you may post… as you know a ginger!!! Also those with ginger cats/dogs/hamsters etc….may post. ☺️

PaydayJay · 08/10/2024 22:48

Allthegoodnamesaregonegone · 08/10/2024 22:08

What are we defining as high earning? Is it household or an individual?

Alas, if you have to ask ...

DangerMouseAndPenfoldx · 08/10/2024 22:47

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 22:43

The original thread was to ask for financial advice so that is where that came from.

The whole point of MN is that anyone and everyone can contribute to a thread so I’m not sure how you would stop anyone and everyone posting on a high income thread.

The whole idea is unbelievably crass.

Edited

Well, if the threads were on a different board presumably they wouldn’t be so triggering to all those who pile on with “tiny violins”.

And equally it would be easier to suggest to someone who did pile on that if the topic upset them they might benefit from hiding it.

Then maybe you wouldn’t have someone who was asking for advice following her husbands suicide having to ask for her thread to be deleted.

HollyLollyMollyJolly · 08/10/2024 22:47

I thought mumsnet demographic is popularly known for being middle class with high-earning dh with important jobs, and higher earning women, so why is a separate board needed when MN is predominantly that?

On the other hand, why is it a problem to speak about high earning and high earners' issues especially on a separate board if this is such a normal thing on mumsnet?

Either way, could it be that the mumsnet demographic reputation is false?

ohthejoys21 · 08/10/2024 22:46

In the US success is applauded and celebrated. Here (especially Mumsnet) mainly jealousy. So much jealousy. I look up to high earners as I do to lower earners who work just as hard.

BellesAndGraces · 08/10/2024 22:46

The funny thing is I grew up dirt poor - my guess is far poorer than a lot of the complainers on this thread. I don’t ever recall having this vitriol for those who had more than us.

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MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:45

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 22:44

So how is having a separate board going to stop that?

easy dont behave then insta ban

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 22:44

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:43

its when people start taking the biscuit and not in the spirt of the thread that then causes issues

So how is having a separate board going to stop that?

PaydayJay · 08/10/2024 22:44

BeatrizBoniface · 08/10/2024 20:31

Good point. There was someone with 2 PhDs recently! Probably on a property thread..

I once met a woman with two - she was somewhat prone to exaggeration, her business card said 'PhD²'

MetalGearSystem · 08/10/2024 22:43

maverickfox · 08/10/2024 22:43

The original thread was to ask for financial advice so that is where that came from.

The whole point of MN is that anyone and everyone can contribute to a thread so I’m not sure how you would stop anyone and everyone posting on a high income thread.

The whole idea is unbelievably crass.

Edited

its when people start taking the biscuit and not in the spirt of the thread that then causes issues