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Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

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GoldMedallist · 29/07/2024 22:03

Deleting their posts but allowing them to keep inciting racial hatred under the same accounts is making the site unusable. Why should we keep reporting them if you’re not going to do anything meaningful about it?

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CassieMaddox · 02/08/2024 10:32

"Two tier policing" is doing my head in. People are stupid if they think there is only one way that disorder should be policed.

VerySadCase · 02/08/2024 10:31

The Times article is very good but quite chilling.

It's very telling that those who are actively stirring up these riots often don't turn up in person.

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 10:26

ErrolTheDragon · 02/08/2024 10:18

The times articles are good background. I'd wondered about the repeated use of the phrase 'two tier policing' cropping up - that's a clear tell.

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Yes, it is one of the key phrases. Also "honest conversation about immigration".

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GoldMedallist · 02/08/2024 10:20

There are other tells, such as the desire to exploit class anxiety. Obviously the obsession with Islam. Use of terms such as native or indigenous population. It just seeps out of them.

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ErrolTheDragon · 02/08/2024 10:18

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 09:33

That Times article explains a lot. So many new posters popping up. Also I noticed quite a few of the racist posters seem to have resurrected user names they last used years ago. So some of them have been here all the time, waiting for their chance.

I am so glad MNHQ brought back advanced search. It is very illuminating.

The times articles are good background. I'd wondered about the repeated use of the phrase 'two tier policing' cropping up - that's a clear tell.

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 10:12

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 10:08

Still waiting for MNHQ to delete this filth and hopefully ban the poster I hope. New poster. I think a textbook example of the Times article.

Eta: it is very upsetting

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5131463-totally-disgusted-by-those-rioting-in-southport?reply=137236692&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

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Managed to eff up the link!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5131463-totally-disgusted-by-those-rioting-in-southport?reply=137236692&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 10:08

Still waiting for MNHQ to delete this filth and hopefully ban the poster I hope. New poster. I think a textbook example of the Times article.

Eta: it is very upsetting

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5131463-totally-disgusted-by-those-rioting-in-southport?reply=137236692&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 10:00

I think you could be right Cassie.

CassieMaddox · 02/08/2024 09:53

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 09:33

That Times article explains a lot. So many new posters popping up. Also I noticed quite a few of the racist posters seem to have resurrected user names they last used years ago. So some of them have been here all the time, waiting for their chance.

I am so glad MNHQ brought back advanced search. It is very illuminating.

At risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorists, I do wonder if some are bad actors who have been here gaining trust for years. Like sleeper agents.

MN has been shown to be politically influential in the past so could attract it.

PandoraSox · 02/08/2024 09:33

That Times article explains a lot. So many new posters popping up. Also I noticed quite a few of the racist posters seem to have resurrected user names they last used years ago. So some of them have been here all the time, waiting for their chance.

I am so glad MNHQ brought back advanced search. It is very illuminating.

BustingBaoBun · 02/08/2024 09:21

I agree. We in the UK always pick up the leftovers of the worst of american politics.
On one of the nasty threads, the OP said more or less people don't know what they're talking about... and that the EDL was disbanded years ago. And it's just the general public fed up. Hahaha yeah right. Course EDL was disbanded! It's been replaced with Patriotic Idiots and other groups. What umbrella these numbskulls riot under is pretty irrelevant. They are being enabled.

That Times article is depressing.

TheCoolOliveBalonz · 02/08/2024 09:17

I read some really horrible stuff here yesterday. Just racism. It's really concerning. I think a lot of it sounds like it's fueled by Trump shit from American websites.

CassieMaddox · 02/08/2024 08:55

DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 08:42

This article was shared on a different thread, explains a lot.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/792380c2-44f5-45ce-8d5b-192b0e5ad739?shareToken=f83c06f41366e22c0fcdc76f444f19fe

Thanks. Very interesting. Seen a lot of that on twitter

VerySadCase · 02/08/2024 08:44

GoldMedallist · 02/08/2024 08:31

I get an email when I report something, usually a mass email sent to everyone who reported it saying ‘thanks, we’re taking this down now’ or ‘we are looking at it’. An explanation of why other inflammatory posts are allowed to stand would be good.

Mostly I want to know why accounts that have posts deleted for goading women or targeting Islam take so long to be deactivated. Do MNHQ want them here?

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I get that sometimes but not always.

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GoldMedallist · 02/08/2024 08:40

DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 08:38

Maybe we could just post this

Lord Hanson(Home Office Minister): "Conspiracy to organise a riot is an offence."

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1819272510208147903

Nice and pithy.

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DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 08:38

Maybe we could just post this

Lord Hanson(Home Office Minister): "Conspiracy to organise a riot is an offence."

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1819272510208147903

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GoldMedallist · 02/08/2024 08:31

VerySadCase · 02/08/2024 08:14

It is just so disappointing when you report a blatantly racist post, and hours later, it is still there.

In some cases, I'm starting to wonder if the report button even works or if some of the reports just disappear into the ether. You don't get an automated acknowledgement so after a while you start wondering whether they've actually received it.

In my experience, MN usually respond with confirmation when they have deleted something but there is often no explanation when a post is left to stand. I know they probably don't have the resources to do this, but an explanation might at least help people to understand some of the more bizarre moderation decisions. It would need to be much more specific though than "hasn't broken talk guidelines" because some of the posts that are allowed to remain certainly appear to have done exactly that.

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I get an email when I report something, usually a mass email sent to everyone who reported it saying ‘thanks, we’re taking this down now’ or ‘we are looking at it’. An explanation of why other inflammatory posts are allowed to stand would be good.

Mostly I want to know why accounts that have posts deleted for goading women or targeting Islam take so long to be deactivated. Do MNHQ want them here?

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VerySadCase · 02/08/2024 08:28

The Tommy Robinson one seems to have disappeared quickly so that's good.

DontBiteTheCat · 02/08/2024 08:25

I hope it goes soon!

Quite impressed with MN response on this one.

Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?
BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 08:23

No, it’s still there. 😏

DontBiteTheCat · 02/08/2024 08:20

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 08:19

I’ve just reported one, hopefully it will be gone soon. Unfortunately it seems to be like whackamole.

If it’s the same one I reported it’s just gone x

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 08:19

I’ve just reported one, hopefully it will be gone soon. Unfortunately it seems to be like whackamole.

DontBiteTheCat · 02/08/2024 08:17

Another one has just gone, started at 1am this morning. MN seem to be getting quicker at taking them down!

VerySadCase · 02/08/2024 08:14

GoldMedallist · 02/08/2024 07:50

They remind me of those random men insisting you pay them attention in a public place. I’ll go with report and ignore.

It is just so disappointing when you report a blatantly racist post, and hours later, it is still there.

In some cases, I'm starting to wonder if the report button even works or if some of the reports just disappear into the ether. You don't get an automated acknowledgement so after a while you start wondering whether they've actually received it.

In my experience, MN usually respond with confirmation when they have deleted something but there is often no explanation when a post is left to stand. I know they probably don't have the resources to do this, but an explanation might at least help people to understand some of the more bizarre moderation decisions. It would need to be much more specific though than "hasn't broken talk guidelines" because some of the posts that are allowed to remain certainly appear to have done exactly that.