Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

VerySadCase · Today 12:50
Uricon2 · Today 12:09
I am really concerned about the many MNers who are not white British reading the hate speech that's been posted over the last few days. It's their site too.

Yes. I'm sure that most are sadly used to dealing with racism but the level of bile recently has been out of control. It must be incredibly alienating

Agree. It must be awful just trying to go about your life in this toxic environment.
I usually smile and say hello to everyone anyway but I’m really making sure I do atm.

I really hope the law is tightened up to the extent that sites like this, and Facebook and Twitter/X of course are sanctioned with criminal proceedings for allowing hate speech to stand.

I might be wrong! Just a hunch as they have gone quiet. Maybe they are busy on other threads, though.

That's good... how can you tell?

My young adult dd is mixed race. Obviously she isn't on MN but I know that she has felt increasingly alienated by what she sees on the news and what she sees on social media.

I can't even begin to imagine how it must feel for young people from Muslim backgrounds to see so much hate directed towards them.

I feel so angry on behalf of all of our children and young people. What sort of society will they be inheriting?

Yes. I'm sure that most are sadly used to dealing with racism but the level of bile recently has been out of control. It must be incredibly alienating.

Very well said. If I, as a white woman, feel so defeated and ready to leave, how must those members who are not white feel right now?

I have a feeling that poster is no longer with us.

Thank you. This gives me pause for thought. You're right that we shouldn't let them take the site over. But I need to find a better way of managing my own responses because it is having a really negative impact on me at the moment.

Dancingmonkeyfeet · 30/07/2024 12:03
Can you give examples?

Most have been deleted. As you know.

And are allowed to stand. Why?

Yes. Horrendous posts.

I am really concerned about the many MNers who are not white British reading the hate speech that's been posted over the last few days. It's their site too.

If the site is to be saved from the bigots and agitators MNHQ needs to step up.

There is a poster who is so clearly a bad faith actor who I and I suspect other have reported, yet is still there posting bile. Another poster who is rather threatening, also no response from MNHQ (eta: they have just deleted that one!)

Great post @SerafinasGoose Agree with all you say

Now must get back to watching a police dog pull down a thick rioter's shorts... on repeat

The agitators, women-haters and racists must not be left in ownership of this site: were that to happen a vital resource - particularly for abused women - will be gone.

Absolutely.
We need to stay to report, and to challenge. The racists whine about 'echo chambers' - that's because despite their efforts they're a toxic minority.

If it is, that's down to the nasty posters and the tolerance of, not the women worn out by posting/reading on here.

I'm not sure what the answer is. For me, the cost of posting here is starting to outweigh the benefit. I'm not sure it's worth the impact on mental health and happiness to carry on fighting to counter those people.

To those thinking of leaving Mumsnet, I have to say the racism on this site has dismayed me for some time. I've taken issue with it many times in the past and the pushback has been intense and immediate. Most of the time it's a festering undertone, the sort of thing PoC have to deal with on a pretty-much daily basis.

The noise of this latest onslaught is much more overt. But IMO this is an ignorant, misinformed, vigilante-style backlash which capitalizes on three things: recent news events, the hot weather which often accompanies rioting, and the instaling of a new Labour government.

These types always crawl out of the woodwork when Labour are in power. It's a recognisable pattern. It's just that on this occasion they were particularly quick off the draw: it's only taken them what? Four weeks?

This too shall pass: as for the covert racism unfortunately we as a society seem as far from stamping this out as we ever were. The same is true of a recent resurgence of misogynistic sentiment toward women. This site reeks of that, too.

The agitators, women-haters and racists must not be left in ownership of this site: were that to happen a vital resource - particularly for abused women - will be gone.

That revolting post I reported is still there. Maybe all the mods are in a meeting or something?

This is the one that makes me laugh the most, someone said it to me in RL this week.

Yeah ok, because all of their supporters went away quietly or suddenly became tolerant because the EDL “doesn’t exist anymore”.

"Multiculturalism has failed"
Anything about integration at all
This is cathartic to know other people see it too

Oh, and the EDL has been disbanded is another one.

'uncontrolled immigration' is another dog whistle phrase

That poster is a fantasist

Fuck yes, how many times does that one get trotted out.

I'm actually more than happy to have conversations about immigration, just not with a bunch of racists that are using "concerns about immigration" to legitimise their hatred.