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Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

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GoldMedallist · 29/07/2024 22:03

Deleting their posts but allowing them to keep inciting racial hatred under the same accounts is making the site unusable. Why should we keep reporting them if you’re not going to do anything meaningful about it?

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LadyCrumpet · 30/07/2024 22:38

Dancingmonkeyfeet · 30/07/2024 12:28

Because what one person might class as racist might actually not be.

There's definitely a lot of that on here.

DontBiteTheCat · 30/07/2024 22:35

thinblurredblueline · 30/07/2024 22:31

First time in my 44 years being UK born citizens my heart breaks that my mixed race sons and myself feel so self conscious for having a tone of brown skin colour. I feel so paranoid. We are 2nd and 3rd generation. My grandfather ( common wealth ) brought my dad here after he was given citizenship for fighting in the British Army.

Our own white strands of the family post constantly about rubber boats swarming in. My friends make jokes about mosques. We are not slightly religious in any form but it bothers me.

I am so sorry you’re experiencing this.

HonestMistake · 30/07/2024 22:35

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:29

And they both deserve it imo. I'm in a minority I'm sure but I cannot abide either of them.

They deserve abuse?? Really?

I'm also not a big fan of either for very trivial reasons of my own, but "being a bit annoying" is not good enough justification for the sort of abuse that high profile Jewish people get on Twitter.

1dayatatime · 30/07/2024 22:34

@Piggywaspushed

"Farage is anti semitic."

Got any links to back this statement up??

Or is it simply an unfounded opinion?

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:33

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:29

And they both deserve it imo. I'm in a minority I'm sure but I cannot abide either of them.

Nobody Jewish deserves anti semitism.

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:32

ThisOldThang · 30/07/2024 22:30

Farage is outspoken in defense of British Jews and the antisemitism they're facing in London and the rest of Britain.

Are you having a laugh??

thinblurredblueline · 30/07/2024 22:31

First time in my 44 years being UK born citizens my heart breaks that my mixed race sons and myself feel so self conscious for having a tone of brown skin colour. I feel so paranoid. We are 2nd and 3rd generation. My grandfather ( common wealth ) brought my dad here after he was given citizenship for fighting in the British Army.

Our own white strands of the family post constantly about rubber boats swarming in. My friends make jokes about mosques. We are not slightly religious in any form but it bothers me.

ThisOldThang · 30/07/2024 22:30

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:26

There is loads of encoded right wing anti semitism all over social media but this got mocked earlier. I think you just might not know it when you see it. Farage is anti semitic. MAGA Trumpists are very anti Semitic.

You can be Islamophobic and anti semitic all at the same time.

Michael Rosen, a (you'd say far) left wing Jewish man gets loads of abuse as does Miriam Margolyes.

Farage is outspoken in defense of British Jews and the antisemitism they're facing in London and the rest of Britain.

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:29

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:26

There is loads of encoded right wing anti semitism all over social media but this got mocked earlier. I think you just might not know it when you see it. Farage is anti semitic. MAGA Trumpists are very anti Semitic.

You can be Islamophobic and anti semitic all at the same time.

Michael Rosen, a (you'd say far) left wing Jewish man gets loads of abuse as does Miriam Margolyes.

And they both deserve it imo. I'm in a minority I'm sure but I cannot abide either of them.

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:26

Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:19

Far-right anti-semitism exists and it's evil.

However, on MN I have seen entire anti-semitic threads with strong left-wing bents. I've yet to see any right-wing anti-semitic comments public on this site (I'm sure they're there, but they must be fewer and deleted very quickly, because people are so much slower to spot and call out left-wing anti-semitism, and because it is far more widespread in the current climate).

There is loads of encoded right wing anti semitism all over social media but this got mocked earlier. I think you just might not know it when you see it. Farage is anti semitic. MAGA Trumpists are very anti Semitic.

You can be Islamophobic and anti semitic all at the same time.

Michael Rosen, a (you'd say far) left wing Jewish man gets loads of abuse as does Miriam Margolyes.

GoldMedallist · 30/07/2024 22:26

DontBiteTheCat · 30/07/2024 22:25

I thought we were talking about comments on Mumsnet?

I think now we’re trying to find out who’s Jewish enough.

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DontBiteTheCat · 30/07/2024 22:25

Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:24

😂

The Far-Left are the most intolerant, narrow-minded, hateful group of hypocrites. Historically, the crimes of Left-wing dictatorships have at least equalled those of the right. The far-left are not less susceptible to racism. They are terrible perpetrators of it.

I thought we were talking about comments on Mumsnet?

GoldMedallist · 30/07/2024 22:24

‘Worst’ wasn’t well phrased. I mean more blatantly obvious. It’s left wing antisemitism that has pushed me right of centre.

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Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:24

AccountCreateUsername · 30/07/2024 22:19

They aren’t usually racist. Hth

😂

The Far-Left are the most intolerant, narrow-minded, hateful group of hypocrites. Historically, the crimes of Left-wing dictatorships have at least equalled those of the right. The far-left are not less susceptible to racism. They are terrible perpetrators of it.

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:21

Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:19

Far-right anti-semitism exists and it's evil.

However, on MN I have seen entire anti-semitic threads with strong left-wing bents. I've yet to see any right-wing anti-semitic comments public on this site (I'm sure they're there, but they must be fewer and deleted very quickly, because people are so much slower to spot and call out left-wing anti-semitism, and because it is far more widespread in the current climate).

They hide in plain sight.

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:20

Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:09

But why do you think you know better than them? This is a very very strange observation to make given the current climate. Y'know, the fact that Jewish people are afraid to even leave their homes because of left-wing antisemitism in London at present, to avoid areas where far-left marches are taking place... Jewish schoolchildren are being told to stay home and hide any visible signs of Judaism because of these left-wing activists who are terrorising them in their own city.

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She doesn't think she knows better than us (I am Jewish) We are the butt of both extreme Left and Right Wing. Currently the Left wing are pursuing a vicious anti Semitic vendetta on the back of the situation in Israel and Gaza but they are kindred spirits with Right wing anti Semites who hate anyone who is 'different'.

AccountCreateUsername · 30/07/2024 22:19

Southwestten · 30/07/2024 12:17

Op do you also complain about far-left posts?

They aren’t usually racist. Hth

Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:19

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:15

Thank you. Much appreciated that you understand it comes from both extremes. Policing MN can be exhausting.

Far-right anti-semitism exists and it's evil.

However, on MN I have seen entire anti-semitic threads with strong left-wing bents. I've yet to see any right-wing anti-semitic comments public on this site (I'm sure they're there, but they must be fewer and deleted very quickly, because people are so much slower to spot and call out left-wing anti-semitism, and because it is far more widespread in the current climate).

DontBiteTheCat · 30/07/2024 22:19

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:19

Bingo... one has just gone. Again.

Every single one of them needs to go.

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:19

Bingo... one has just gone. Again.

Piggywaspushed · 30/07/2024 22:18

It is and I don't understand why there aren't teams of mods looking at threads the minute they start when they are about sensitive or legal matters.

blackcherryconserve · 30/07/2024 22:15

GoldMedallist · 30/07/2024 12:20

I report antisemitism which is enduringly popular at both extremes.

Thank you. Much appreciated that you understand it comes from both extremes. Policing MN can be exhausting.

Stumped7 · 30/07/2024 22:09

GoldMedallist · 30/07/2024 22:05

Jewish people are not a homogeneous mass with a single shared point of view. You know what they say, two Jewish people three opinions.

But why do you think you know better than them? This is a very very strange observation to make given the current climate. Y'know, the fact that Jewish people are afraid to even leave their homes because of left-wing antisemitism in London at present, to avoid areas where far-left marches are taking place... Jewish schoolchildren are being told to stay home and hide any visible signs of Judaism because of these left-wing activists who are terrorising them in their own city.

GoldMedallist · 30/07/2024 22:05

Jewish people are not a homogeneous mass with a single shared point of view. You know what they say, two Jewish people three opinions.

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