Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

So what do you mean with

The horrifying Southend riot last night was far worse but we seem to be concentrating on the one with white perpetrators.

@Alltheprettyseahorses

Of course the EDL is far right, but I don't think it's the point of this thread. Do you want to reread my post? I never mentioned where the riot was (outside the mosque I believe) - I said that a knifeman was arrested round the corner from us at the vigil. I genuinely think it often doesn't matter what's said, some people just have an argument based on what they imagine their opponents might say.

I don't think.she should be ashamed at all. MNHQ are being run ragged with reports and deletions which rather suggests OP made a very good point.

I hope this goady thread will be removed. It is not helping anybody.
you should be ashamed OP of making political capital at such a tragic time

They're even on this thread.

The problem is it eventually is going to drive away all the more moderate posters and just leave the extremes. Some of what I read on here makes me feel physically ill and I am getting to the point where I think I'm part of the problem by posting.

When the community that was here is destroyed we will all suffer.

The likes of Farage and Anderson focussed on Southend rather than condemning the EDL thugs in Southport

This has happened to me too about race, and also other hate posts.

That's not true.

Hi. I am uncomfortable with the far right lies being peddled on that thread and the speculation being posted that is against the contempt of court guidelines which MNHQ has asked us all to abide by.

The EDL turned up prepared to riot. The arrest of the man with a weapon is not the reason they rioted, is it?

Is the EDL [who were in action last night in Southport] not 'far right'?

The rioting started some time later around Hart St away from the peaceful vigil you say you attended

Nope not derailing - it's all relevant to the discussion. This is a thread about Mumsnet not banning agitators. And if you'd actually bothered reading the full thread I also discussed the far right agitators, and then the thread naturally evolved because like it or not, it's part of a wider problem on here.

Anyway, you sound like someone who would argue with their own shadow and you're boring me now so I'll leave it there.

Are you talking about far right posts, or is it just that an honest analysis of the problems we are currently facing makes you uncomfortable? Fwiw, I was at the Southport vigil last night totally oblivious to the fact that a man carrying a knife and a balaclava was being arrested just around the corner. The horrifying Southend riot last night was far worse but we seem to be concentrating on the one with white perpetrators.

You need to have a look at some of the posters on this thread @BeckyAMumsnet . I really can't report them all I would be here all day.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5131463-totally-disgusted-by-those-rioting-in-southport

Why should age make you ‘edge to the right of centre’ ?
I’m getting on a bit and associate a lot (not all) of so-called ‘left of centre’ ideas with compassion…have you become less compassionate with age?

The week before last I reported a post that was racist. I got a reply from a staff member at MN saying they've checked it over and it all looks ok! I honestly couldn't believe their response.
I had to reply back quoting MN's own terms of service and their chat rules to specify and prove that their rules had been broken. Luckily, it seemed like I wasn't the only person who reported it and in the end it did get taken down.
I have no faith in the moderator team after that.

Of course that is all true but can you explain how that is seen in posts on MN? Of the kind we have seen in the past weeks.

Really interesting BBC article today on the growing rise of potential terrorists who are drawn to violence and have no fixed core ideology or belief. And how the Internet spurs it on.

No. We got here because some people are very keen to wave away the far right rioting and generally being cunts with "the far left are a problem too".

It's extremely tedious. If there is an issue with far left agitators on mumsnet start a thread on it and stop derailing this one.

I have just read this statement from Patrick Hurley, MP for Southport. I think it is very pertinent to what has been happening on this site:

Hurley told Times Radio:

Because of the propaganda and the lies that were being spread around on social media from within minutes of the news breaking on Monday afternoon about the tragic incident.

We’d had all sorts of lies being spread and misinformation being spread about the alleged perpetrator and some people with the best of intentions then they tried to rebut this, they tried to argue back, but all that happens is you’re just amplifying people’s false messaging.

This misinformation doesn’t just exist on people’s internet browsers and on people’s phones. It has real world impact.

And what happened is that the real world impact of that was that we then had hundreds of people descending on the town, descending on Southport from outside of the area, intent on causing trouble, either because they believe what they’ve written, or because they are bad faith actors who wrote it in the first place, in the hope of causing community division.

The far Left certainly did pick on certain groups, as a totalitarian power structure the Soviet Union murdered those with a faith.

According to some sources, the total number of Christian killed under the Soviet regime owing to their faith has been estimated to range around 12 to 20 million.
In the 1930s, during the period of Stalin's Great Purge, thousands of Muslim religious clerics were arrested and executed. Between 1929 and 1941, the vast majority of the country's mosques were shut down.

Since Xi came to power in 2013 in China, the government has banned evangelization online, tightened control over Christian activities outside of registered venues, and shut down churches that refuse to register. He has also ethnically clensed the Uighur muslims and put them in concentration camps.