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Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

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GoldMedallist · 29/07/2024 22:03

Deleting their posts but allowing them to keep inciting racial hatred under the same accounts is making the site unusable. Why should we keep reporting them if you’re not going to do anything meaningful about it?

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 13:02

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:58

I am not insulting you, I am trying to understand what you are saying and where you are getting your information from.

I am not doubting you were at vigil last night

Okay. I just feel like the questions I'm being asked are really odd. I know it was another poster but being quizzed about a main road in the area! Every single member of 3 generations of my family worked in Woolies over the years, my ma learned silver service somewhere in Neville Street. The paranoia on this thread is something else

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:58

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:51

Aren't you going to ask that poster for a link? There's no reason to believe they were in the area after all or has any particular knowledge. Or is it only me you want to insult?

I am not insulting you, I am trying to understand what you are saying and where you are getting your information from.

I am not doubting you were at vigil last night

PandoraSox · 31/07/2024 12:58

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:53

I've got no idea, the riot area is well away from where I was at the time. Ask the rioters.

Thanks. That is a relief. I thought for one horrible moment you were regurgitating the far right rhetoric that is stinking up SM at the moment. i.e, all the lovely cuddly EDL mob were there with their high strength ciders for a peaceful vigil until the man with the flick knife was arrested and they were so cross about that they had no choice but to riot and attack a mosque.

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:57

That's where the man was arrested.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:56

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:53

I assume you can say where Eastbank Street is.

I can say where most places are, I only live a few train stops away and spend a lot of time round the arcades etc there. Anything else?

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:53

I assume you can say where Eastbank Street is.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:53

PandoraSox · 31/07/2024 12:49

@Alltheprettyseahorses are you suggesting the presence of the man with the flick knife at the vigil is what sparked the riot? I am not sure if that is what you are saying.

I've got no idea, the riot area is well away from where I was at the time. Ask the rioters.

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:52

Just look up Merseyside police.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:51

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:45

I meant re the man with the knife that you were unaware of

Piggywaspushed has explained that now

Aren't you going to ask that poster for a link? There's no reason to believe they were in the area after all or has any particular knowledge. Or is it only me you want to insult?

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:50

Newsflash. Loads of them were carrying. They throw bricks at the police. Throwing knives is less effective.

PandoraSox · 31/07/2024 12:49

@Alltheprettyseahorses are you suggesting the presence of the man with the flick knife at the vigil is what sparked the riot? I am not sure if that is what you are saying.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:49

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:47

I never said it was. What is wrong is to weaponise it for stoking division. No.pun intended.

How many EDL thugs were carrying do you suppose?

How would I know? None of them! All of them! Actually, they were throwing bricks so you tell me. The man arrested by the vigil was definitely armed.

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:47

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:45

Oh that's alright then! JFC!

I never said it was. What is wrong is to weaponise it for stoking division. No.pun intended.

How many EDL thugs were carrying do you suppose?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:46

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:44

But your implication that it's a Muslim comes from where??

Where did I say anyone was Muslim? I will say this kindly - have you confused me with another poster?

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:45

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:43

I got my information from being there?! I can't exactly link standing looking at the smoke last night can I, or the people we were talking to on the train. I do have a lovely picture of the sun going down last night looking towards the pier if you want proof I was there. I have a receipt for my walrus pass too, I could photograph that. FFS!

I meant re the man with the knife that you were unaware of

Piggywaspushed has explained that now

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:45

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:41

A man, from Wigan, not a local , was arrested with a flick knife near the mosque. EDL immediately claimed he had a machete and was Muslim. This is not true/ unlikely to be the case.

Oh that's alright then! JFC!

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:44

But your implication that it's a Muslim comes from where??

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:43

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:37

Can you link where you got your information from?

I got my information from being there?! I can't exactly link standing looking at the smoke last night can I, or the people we were talking to on the train. I do have a lovely picture of the sun going down last night looking towards the pier if you want proof I was there. I have a receipt for my walrus pass too, I could photograph that. FFS!

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:41

A man, from Wigan, not a local , was arrested with a flick knife near the mosque. EDL immediately claimed he had a machete and was Muslim. This is not true/ unlikely to be the case.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:40

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What? I have not had a post deleted. My first post on this thread was at 10.52, it is still there.

Hatfullofwillow · 31/07/2024 12:38

Dancingmonkeyfeet · 30/07/2024 11:30

It depends what you class as ‘far right’

’Far right’ to some are actually just centre or just right of centre. The term has been so much as an insult to shut people down from having differing opinions it doesn’t actually mean what it used to.

Concerned about immigration - ‘far right’
Concerned about the effect of transgender issues - ‘far right’
Concerns about terrorism ‘far right’
Not gushing about Labour ‘far right’
Voting conservative ‘far right’
Not voting Librals ‘far right’
Not marching for Palastine ‘far right’

If there is a blatant racist post then it usually gets nipped in the bud sharpish but the vast vast majority of posts are from people with genuine points - yet other people don’t like them being discussed.

I think you're stretching the definition of genuine there.

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:37

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:35

Excuse me? Misinformation? I was literally there last night, I stood at the vigil, I didn't know about yhe knifeman arrested so close to us and didn't even believe it at first, and I was down by Ocean Plaza when I saw smoke billowing from the direction of Lord Street and a helicopter flying round. And someone has the absolute NERVE to say 'just ignore them. Misinformation'. It's beyond a joke.

Can you link where you got your information from?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:37

DuncinToffee · 31/07/2024 12:33

So what do you mean with

The horrifying Southend riot last night was far worse but we seem to be concentrating on the one with white perpetrators.

@Alltheprettyseahorses

I'm talking about what's being shown on news channels' platforms which is what most people see. I have no idea what Farage or Anderson might be saying, I have them blocked on social media.

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2024 12:36

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:35

Excuse me? Misinformation? I was literally there last night, I stood at the vigil, I didn't know about yhe knifeman arrested so close to us and didn't even believe it at first, and I was down by Ocean Plaza when I saw smoke billowing from the direction of Lord Street and a helicopter flying round. And someone has the absolute NERVE to say 'just ignore them. Misinformation'. It's beyond a joke.

Can you provide evidence that this is true?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 31/07/2024 12:35

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Excuse me? Misinformation? I was literally there last night, I stood at the vigil, I didn't know about yhe knifeman arrested so close to us and didn't even believe it at first, and I was down by Ocean Plaza when I saw smoke billowing from the direction of Lord Street and a helicopter flying round. And someone has the absolute NERVE to say 'just ignore them. Misinformation'. It's beyond a joke.