Why aren’t you banning the far-right agitators?

There is no new kind of poster

There is.

How long have you been on MN?

I have been on MN for 9 or 10 years. Yes you get the odd racist poster and there was loads of misinformation posted around the time the covid vaccines began.

However, the outright racism and deliberate lies that have been posted since Monday is on a level I have not seen on MN before. Is it a co-incidence? No.

There is no new kind of poster.

What’s happening is years of not feeling heard when people who had genuine worries spoke out,

There has been a lot in the past few years to deal with as as per the government hasn’t dealt with it properly. - especially with the Palestine Marches - that unsettled people. Multiculturalism isn’t working in some areas and if you’re honest you can admit that and look to help make it work better. There is no point in pretending that people ( mostly men) from countries that have had terrible wars ( most which the U.K. had a hand in) and completely different cultural ways of life can just slot in to U.K. life.

So people are becoming tribal and ‘picking sides’ - unfortunately there is extremists on both sides ready to scoop those looking for support and community.

The riots that I have seen tonight have scared me. The riots that I seen last year between the Hindus & Muslims over a cricket game in were the same. Mosques and temples set on fire. Fireworks were fired at police vans during the marches and Jewish people chased, Yet there wasn’t thread up on thread about it because it’s not ok to point out that yet again multiculturalism isn’t working. Even between non British people,

I do feel ‘far right’ is over used but in my heart I’m worried because I do feel a real far right government is on the horizon because no one will admit that things are getting a bit fucked up and people that have always sat in the middle want change. We do not want a ‘real far right’ government. And let me be clear - the Tories were not far right.

If we have a real far right government - not the idiots out on the street ( kids and morons) women are going to get really punished. The real far right are already getting places on the government in Europe and it will follow here.

Keir needs to make some big changes and statements here. Acknowledging the U.K. people feel scared and working to make things better for ALL people rather than focusing on surface level shite

Have reported to the night watch folk. Vile.

No, I wouldn't have thought so. It's a shame because it was such a fantastic space when I first joined somewhere between 15 to 20 years ago. It was such a joy to be part of a predominantly female forum and I really loved the wit and honesty and intelligence on here.

It has changed so much in recent times and I really don't know if I feel at home any more. There are still some fantastic posters on here, but there used to be so any threads that made me laugh, threads that make me think etc. Now I tend to see more that make me sigh or send my blood pressure sky high. So many dog whistle posts and so much thinly veiled racism (if they bother trying to veil it at all, that is.) And even when MNHQ is on it with the moderation, you just get threads with a load of deletions that render them virtually incomprehensible.

The thread about the protests in London and Hartlepool is going the same way

MN certainly seems to have attracted a certain kind of poster recently.

Not what Justine thought would happen when she started a parenting forum

That's what I'm wondering. I've been on these boards for years but I've never known it as bad as this. I feel like we should stay and fight but I'm just not sure if I have the energy for it. I'm so incredibly depressed by it all.

So start your own thread about that, then.

Seriously, the whataboutery here is astounding.

It's on Twitter, linking to a well known EDL type woman's account.

I'll see if I can find it again.

Please can you link me to this evidence? It would actually make my day after seeing so much fake bullshit all over my SM today.

People genuinely think the EDL twats just happened to be knocking about with pure intentions until this “Muslim with a knife” incident.

What about sexism against men? Men seem the most loathed group on here.

Some background information on yesterday's riots

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/police-believe-english-defence-league-29650424

Far right is a correct term to use

Nah. Some of us are just calling out racism when we see it. Some of my best friends are Conservatives. (True, actually)

I know, but I think so. Ultimately I don't think Justine/MNHQ endorse such views and report report report does seem to be responded to quite quickly ATM.

Agree with this. Almost EVERYTHING on here that isn’t very left wing is deemed ‘far right’

Makes people not want to listen to you tbh

Might be a bit of a fight though. Is it worth it for an online forum?

Same here. Some of what I have read is frightening.

Some people aren't going to easily accept MN turning in to the 21st century social media equivalent of Der Sturmer, ta.

Just so posters know, there is now pretty good evidence that the guy arrested with the knife was an EDL thug. It has confused the patriots because he is 'half cast' [sic]. And now they can't blame him and they are even more bewildered.

True facts.
I feel the same.

No, I get it. It feels immoral to stay silent.

If you leave them to it, then that just makes it look like nobody can even be arsed to disagree.

But you can't reason with these people either, because racism has no basis in rationality and reason. You can't argue with stupid.

And which witnesses would that be?

The ones interviewed by main stream media or the ones shared on social media?

It's awful.

I feel like a whipping post when I push back.

Potentially , oxygen is being given to the threads. But I find it hard to be a bystander. Not in my nature.

Bye then 👋