Why do you allow people to attack and ridicule Christianity?

What?

Are you the OP though?

Isn’t this whole thread about wanting to make the whole world as safe for christians as it is presumed to be for those lucky jews, muslims, and hindus whose wives are never attacked for their clothing, whose holy books are never torn up or defiled, whose identity as british citizens is never questioned?

You are entitled to voice your point of view. I must admit I do not follow your logic, but there you are. Weird that you would think that my sharing my thoughts 'controls' anything - it is utterly bizarre. Weird that would you think I would want some sort of 'safe' space? It's not an idea I've expressed.

@bryceQ

You're entitled to think that, I did a degree and masters in history and it's still my opinion that something so pivotal to who we are as a nation is something to have respect for.

Slavery is pivotal to our history in the UK but hopefully you're happy to condemn slavery rather than show respect for it? Fingers crossed.

I can only answer for myself, but for me it's not, just a statement of fact.
Remove the 'I think' though, as people often do, and while not hate speech it does become offensive imo.

Is "I think you are deluded" hate speech?

I wouldn't use those exact words however I do question why (some)
people are so ready to buy into myths and stories and religious belief systems.

I was replying to someone else who wrote “. Do you feel better that I think you’re all the same level of mad/sad/pathetic?”
I think that is “pejorative language to an individual or group” ( ie “hate speech”)

And? It doesn’t change the meaning of the words quoted imo

I notice that you have left out the part written after that "However, to date there is no universal definition of hate speech under international human rights law. The concept is still under discussion, especially in relation to freedom of opinion and expression, non-discrimination and equality."
And this bit "It’s important to note that hate speech can only be directed at individuals or groups of individuals. It does not include communication about States and their offices, symbols or public officials, nor about religious leaders or tenets of faith."

What is hate speech? | United Nations

Expressing an opinion isn't in itself discrimation.

I personally tend not to use deluded/shy fairy type language. But I can certainly see why people do. And I am definitely not prepared to go along with people's beliefs. I did the "some people believe" with my children.

@Singersong has anyone said there shouldn't be nativity plays?

The UN definition of hate speech
Hate speech is “discriminatory”(biased, bigoted or intolerant) or “pejorative” (prejudiced, contemptuous or demeaning) of an individual or group.

Don’t think we have a state religion… all religions are fairy tails for grown ups. Do you feel better @Singersong that I think you’re all the same level of mad/sad/pathetic?

@Thegreatestoftheseislove
@Werweisswohin and @CurlewKate Thank you for your suggestions. I did say in my post that I am not calling for one. I don't feel the need. If I did I would have already "

Does that mean you actually don't want a safe space to discuss matters of Christian faith without any debate-you just want to be able to control what people say on the main board? Because that's exactly how it looks.

And, asking why there isn’t a Christian board when there is Muslim and Jewish boards is like asking why there isn’t a white mumsnetters board when there is a black one, or why there isn’t and English board when there is are Scottish and Irish ones.

The UN definition of hate speech
To provide a unified framework for the United Nations to address the issue globally, the UN Strategy and Plan of Action on Hate Speech defines hate speech as…“any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a person or a group on the basis of who they are, in other words, based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality, race, colour, descent, gender or other identity factor.….
Hate speech is “discriminatory”(biased, bigoted or intolerant) or “pejorative” (prejudiced, contemptuous or demeaning) of an individual or group.

"Nice dodge" in response to "I am not going to try and convince you otherwise." So, forgive me my confusion and slight amusement here ... you've made many posts here complaining about Christians trying to convert folk, and insisting on your right to call the Lord God Almighty, amongst other things, a 'sky fairy' and you also state that all Christians are delusional, but then appear to complain when this Christian, in this instance, does want to discuss matters of faith with you, by calling it a 'nice dodge'. 😆 I see the irony, it's not lost on me.

If you started a thread about sky fairies and delusion, then I may, or may not, decide to join the debate. However, that is not the topic started by the opening poster. The topic was about perceived unfairness and inequality.

Eh? I merely made an observation. I think maybe you're wanting to see an argument where there wasn't one.🙂

What’s so wrong with swearing on mumsnet?
And what’s wrong with having second thoughts and editing a post?
Let it go …. 😆

😂

I agree.
Much better than swearing at people and then trying to edit it out.

“I think there does need to be a level of understanding though that works both ways, great for you if religion has been kind to you but understand that religion has in the past and continues to actively harm people, those hurt people are everywhere and sometimes it just isn't possible for them to act with the grace you might like them to.“
This is very well put .