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Why do you allow people to attack and ridicule Christianity?

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Singersong · 18/07/2024 06:45

Time and time again I see people taking the absolute piss out of Christianity. Calling people delusional and saying it's made up bullshit etc. why do you allow this? I don't see this about any other religion.

It goes far beyond atheism and you claim to be against hate speech.

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Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:17

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:17

Go for it then. But if you are going to mock Christianity then try mocking other religious faiths while you’re at it … see how you get on

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Eh?

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:17

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:16

Sky fairy - a fictional character in the heavens (aka sky).
Delusional - buying into something based on false ideas or confusion.

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Yeah - mocking right?

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:17

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:15

Ffs - I’ve not been mocking you . ( at least not out loud)

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I've not been mocking you either.
Your little bit there in brackets is another perfect example of christian judgement seeping in.

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:17

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 20/07/2024 12:15

Why is Ricky Gervais allowed to do it then?
And what about those other, more niche beliefs I mentioned? Are we to assume that Christians and other religious people who expect respect for their own beliefs would never mock others' less mainstream beliefs? I find that highly unlikely tbh.

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Go for it then. But if you are going to mock Christianity then try mocking other religious faiths while you’re at it … see how you get on

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:16

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:10

How do interpret “sky fairy”? And “delusional “?

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Sky fairy - a fictional character in the heavens (aka sky).
Delusional - buying into something based on false ideas or confusion.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 20/07/2024 12:15

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:25

It’s completely fine for you to think it’s all a load of absolute tosh ( obviously) All that I’m asking for is that people don’t use mocking language on social media. Obviously- they still will because it’s a free country and I defend the right to free speech- including the right to be rude and offensive.
However - I think it’s better for everyone if we don’t routinely take the piss out of groups we don’t agree with.
Im fine with piss taking in some ways ( I find Ricky Gervais very funny on religion)
I just don’t like the idea that it’s ok in general discourse on social media to take the piss out of someone’s religion.

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Why is Ricky Gervais allowed to do it then?
And what about those other, more niche beliefs I mentioned? Are we to assume that Christians and other religious people who expect respect for their own beliefs would never mock others' less mainstream beliefs? I find that highly unlikely tbh.

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:15

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:13

Which is what I've been doing. 🫣

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Ffs - I’ve not been mocking you . ( at least not out loud)

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:14

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:49

It depends on the way you express it. If you call me delusional for believing in a sky fairy then you are making fun of me.
If you say there is no scientific evidence to support my belief then you are not making fun of me.

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I do think it's delusional to say there definitely is a god.
I also think you can have different thought processes than me.

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:14

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:08

It's honestly only christians who have ever said this to me. I have had friends of a variety of religions and cultures.

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Ok - you win . All Christians are bigots and the only religious bigots out there are Christians .
They all totally deserve to be mocked and abused because religious faith is not a protected characteristic if the religion is Christianity .

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:13

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:46

Yes - Christians are guilty too. And it would be right for you to call them out on it .

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Which is what I've been doing. 🫣

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:12

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:43

Not as typical as you think. Some of us are quite argumentative and contrary .

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Indeed.

pikkumyy77 · 20/07/2024 12:12

Obviously I don’t believe what you believe is not hate speech.

Second of all I wish the religious people on this thread would stop pretending that Christianity is some kind of generous polytheism. Definitionally Christianity sees itself as the one true religion and labels all others as false. You all fucking expelled the jews from England in the 15th century! The Catholic church slaughtered the Cathars for wrong think. They fought the crusades and slaughtered Muslims to reclaim Jerusalem.

In England religious infighting was of course absolutely rife with periods of oppression, abuse, and suppression from catholic to protestant and back again.

Please stop pretending that a state sponsored sect like christianity needs special protection from other people’s derision or opinion.

Contempt, derision, and abuse have historically been taught and preached in Christian churches from the pulpit. A little sarcasm from some teenagers or atheists us neither here nor there.

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:11

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:42

“Sky fairy”?
“Delusional “?

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That's no worse than saying to non-believers that god is definitely real, telling them they're sinful and need saved, that your god is the god, or 'I'll pray for you'.* *

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:10

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:09

...or interpreted.

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How do interpret “sky fairy”? And “delusional “?

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:09

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:41

Depends how the view has been expressed- (obviously)

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...or interpreted.

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 12:08

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:03

Ffs - there are hard liners in all religions who post online that their religion is the only truth. Stop pretending it’s only Christians who do this.

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It's honestly only christians who have ever said this to me. I have had friends of a variety of religions and cultures.

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 12:03

MoonWoman69 · 20/07/2024 12:00

Well said @CurlewKate

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Ffs - there are hard liners in all religions who post online that their religion is the only truth. Stop pretending it’s only Christians who do this.

MoonWoman69 · 20/07/2024 12:00

CurlewKate · 18/07/2024 07:00

"She is absolutely correct that nobody on here would ever call a Muslim or a Sikh or a Jew delusional or stupid or any of the other things that are frequently said about Christians."

If members of those religions posted claiming that their religion was the absolute truth and asking for special privileges in society then I would be happy and willing to challenge them, but so far they haven't. Christians frequently do.

Well said @CurlewKate

Brefugee · 20/07/2024 11:54

OneTaupeMentor · 18/07/2024 07:02

It is a strange thing.
Imagine the uproar if a god of another denomination was called a ‘sky wizard’ or whatever.
I personally ignore it but my teenagers are embarrassed to say I am a Christian. They are atheists and that is fine but they shouldn’t be embarrassed to talk about home for fear of ridicule.

to be fair, in the Abrahamic religions it is the same god. And that god shouldn't mind a few hurty words, surely?

Having said that: personal insults and attacks should be reported. Maybe, unlike some of the ageism that is allowed, MN will delete. Or maybe they will suggest you robustly challenge it. Who knows until you try.

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:49

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 11:46

Expressing a view is not making fun of you.

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It depends on the way you express it. If you call me delusional for believing in a sky fairy then you are making fun of me.
If you say there is no scientific evidence to support my belief then you are not making fun of me.

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 11:46

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 10:35

I have no problem at all with your views . I enjoy having debate with people of all faiths and none.
It is the way views are expressed that is the problem. Many of my friends are atheists but they don’t make fun of my beliefs or use pejorative language to my face because that would be rude. I think that’s just basic manners.

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Expressing a view is not making fun of you.

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:46

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 11:44

Christian belief openly mocks non-christians. 🫣

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Yes - Christians are guilty too. And it would be right for you to call them out on it .

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:44

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 11:42

Eh?

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Ignore that. It was a fleeting irritation at the “meek and gentle” Christian trope

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 11:44

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 10:44

Christians ( and people of other faiths) are ridiculed, persecuted and discriminated against across the globe . I think it is important to stand up for any group that is being mocked for their beliefs - whether you’re a member of that group or not.

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Christian belief openly mocks non-christians. 🫣

Limesodaagain · 20/07/2024 11:43

Werweisswohin · 20/07/2024 11:42

This is such a typical xtian response.

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Not as typical as you think. Some of us are quite argumentative and contrary .

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