Ablesim on mumsnet

It’s a moderated site though.

Theure quick enough to police racism.

It's a forum. People discuss things on it. I don't think opinions should be banned, certainly not opinions on whether you should let somebody go in front of you in a queue. Can't have much of a discussion if only one view is allowed.

The point is that the whole thread descended immediately into ableist comments about ND children having to be taught to wait.

Not to mention ableist comments suggesting that the child's mother was actually lying about her child's disability.

"The Equality Act of 2010 protects people against discrimination, harassment or victimisation in employment, and as users of private and public services based on nine protected characteristics: age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex, and sexual orientation"

So these opinions are not acceptable.
And MNHQ needs to have a long, hard look at the Act.

It's a forum. People discuss things on it. I don't think opinions should be banned, certainly not opinions on whether you should let somebody go in front of you in a queue. Can't have much of a discussion if only one view is allowed.

No, it isn't pushy when a mother asks for accommodations to be made for her disabled child.

It's a very reasonable request.

I think plenty of comments here are evidence of the OP's point, because they're claiming the queue-jumping post was about an entitled mother demanding to jump the queue. It wasn't. It clearly stated a toddler ran in front of another in the queue and the mother said, "he's autistic, you don't mind, do you?" i.e. politely explained and asked.

Perhaps not overt ableism, but deliberate exaggeration or misrepresentation of a disabled child's mother to depict her as pushy and demanding.

It's a forum. People discuss things on it. I don't think opinions should be banned, certainly not opinions on whether you should let somebody go in front of you in a queue. Can't have much of a discussion if only one view is allowed.

So they should be!

Is it not pushy? Or otherwise expecting or asking for something that really isn't due? Because presumably there was the option to take the child back to their spot in the queue...

It’s a moderated site though.

Theure quick enough to police racism.

There's also a thread running about a woman's husband suspected autistic, and her brother and sister were laughing at him because he was excited about an activity, and the comments on it are awful, saying it's fine to laugh at "odd" people. It's blatant ableism and it should be dealt with. As an autistic woman I find it very hard to read a lot of comments on this site. There's some awful views being expressed.

It’s increasingly like the Mail or Express on this website.

Exceot this website attacks older people too.

Is there an internet equivalent of Ofcom?

Its like disabled, older and menopausal women don’t count t at all anymore. Even though the equality acts exists.

It makes me feel sick. I tried to report it to the Equalities Commission once. But they didn’t deal with internet forums

Free speech above all eh?

This is not a site set up to support a particular sub demographic. Its a site where people can, largely, express their views and debate with others.

That can be very discomfiting when people express views that appal you. I am regularly appalled by views expressed on here, and I am sure others are appalled by my views. But overall, I welcome that. I find it really valuable to be exposed to those views and to be able to challenge others' views and have my views challenged.

There was a post the other day about a child who seemed to have the same condition as mine. Plenty of appalling comments about how the child needed to be punished out of this behaviour and was choosing it. But plenty more from parents who had similar children and were offering advice. In the end the OP got their child diagnosed and they did have the condition. I hope that some of the ' punish the child' parents learnt from that. That would be less likely to learn from it if MN were a deletion- happy site.

We can see even from this thread that some people call others transphobic and those throwing this label around will be called misogynistic by others.
People on this thread are distressed by the marriage support thread, yet posters on that site regard it as a lifeline.

Some people's views offend us, that doesn't mean the best course is silencing those views.

Some people's life experiences offend us, but that does not mean their life experiences should be extinguished from public records.

I am glad Mumsnet exists as a rare and valuable site where people from all backgrounds and experiences can talk, even if that is very challenging at times.

Its fine if some find that too hard. There are other online spaces that are explicitly support resources for particular demographics that might better suit them. Many of use will use those spaces in addition to Mumsnet.

But MN is a space for everyone, not just those with particular political beliefs or particular life experiences. And I am glad of it.

I think plenty of comments here are evidence of the OP's point, because they're claiming the queue-jumping post was about an entitled mother demanding to jump the queue. It wasn't. It clearly stated a toddler ran in front of another in the queue and the mother said, "he's autistic, you don't mind, do you?" i.e. politely explained and asked.

Perhaps not overt ableism, but deliberate exaggeration or misrepresentation of a disabled child's mother to depict her as pushy and demanding.