Ablesim on mumsnet

I see we're still waiting for MN to respond to this thread.

I can’t remember, it was years ago. I don’t have any examples.

Stuff was just jumped on sooner. Some threads are unpleasant places now.

Well you tell me, when has it on here? The examples given on this thread don’t seem to me to meet that threshold ( not that I am a lawyer).

Discussing situations or ideas is what this site is about. And there will always be different ideas of what constitutes an ‘ist’ or phobia.

For example some people have strong views that racism has to include a power element, so white people cannot be victims of racism. Other people have strong views that any race can experience racism and its rather racist against white peoples to say they can’t experience it. Under the UK equality act, all races are protected so white people can experience racism under the law ( and cases to the effect have been successfully prosecuted). So does this mean the MN should delete all posts from black MNers, and others, arguing that only people of colour can experience racism, because this view, or ‘judgement’ is counter to the law and hence discriminatory against white peoples?

My view is strongly that such posts should never be deleted, but your position would seem to mean they should be?

This is very true.
Anyone with autism will know this.

You're the one making ableist comments.

Are you alright?

Yes, Dozerasauras was caught out by their own standards.

Just what knot is that?

Oh, and I also typed out another reply but it got lost because your post was deleted and my reply wouldn't go through.

If you think I am posting under other names, please ask MN to check to see if I have posted under any other names in this thread or any other thread about autism. Please do. And report back. 😂

You’ve tied yourself in quite a knot there 😂

According to this thread it's ableist to say anybody lies about having ASD.

Ah I see. It's fine for you to not believe me. But it's not fine for us to not believe parents who claim their child is autistic. You might want to examine your own hypocrisy there. Btw, I can PM you my doctor's letter regarding my diagnosis, if you wish? I won't do my DDs as that's her private business but I consent to you seeing my letters.

Nope, never worked in a school.

Yes, I am ASD myself and so is my child, and I am so fucking tired of everyone using my and my DD's condition as an excuse! That is what is wrong with me!!

The recent thread about having to leave the cinema to use the loo was a real eye opener for me.
And let's not forget how anyone who wishes to discuss bowel problems is instantly branded a poo troll.
Can't work out if some posters here are ableist or just plain dumb.

When does a ‘judgement’ go against the equalities and disabilities act though?

It used to be policed much more stringently in the past.

It is when it is very clear she is lying and trying it on.

Disclosure: I was diagnosed with ASD 3 years ago as an older adult. I have a child with moderate ASD. Nothing pisses me off more than CFers and chancers LYING about having this. It is hard enough for us to be taken seriously as it is, without dealing with lying parents using us as an excuse to get out of lining up. As someone with ASD, guess what? It's pretty obvious when someone is lying about this.

We didn't come down in the last shower.

It makes me so livid. And then you have well-meaning but naive people egging on these CF chancers, and making my and our lives harder!

No it doesn’t. Autistic people are varied in presentation and often mask a lot.

I agree with the op. I hope MNHQ respond.

Not if it’s a high masking girl like my dd

People who find the value that MN has on allowing discussion, as reflected in its moderation policy, are free to move to sites whose moderation policy better suits them

It shouldn't be a question of moderation policies suiting some people and not others.

MNHQ should be moderating according to the tenets of the Equality Act. Good grief, it's been enshrined in law for nearly fifteen years.

They are capable of it. They choose to prioritise free speech over deleting posts that you don't like and which don't break any laws, which is the case of all examples brought up in this thread. They do the same with racism, ageism, and other isms.

It's been this way since the beginning and is clearly never going to change. You can keep posting threads explaining how you would like them to moderate but trying to suggest they're breaking the law is embarrassing and, again, undermines your point.

Except the child pushed in, the mother said he was autistic afterwards, yet he was happily waiting in the queue. So the mother clearly did in fact, make it up.

Do you really believe everyone is who they say they are? Are you this niave? You can't tell when a mother (or father) is pulling a fast one? Just because they say 'oh he's autistic' does not mean he is.