Corpus 2

Your wish is my command

@TokyoBouncyBall feel free to PM me. It depends (somewhat) on her areas of interest and if she wants to combine with a specific language.

Oxford for Modern Languages and Linguistics is probably the most prestigious, unsurprisingly. Edinburgh also is strong for joint degrees with MFL.

From the html version, Nicci MacLeod, Tamineh Tayebi and Pam Lowe

research.aston.ac.uk/en/persons/nicci-macleod

research.aston.ac.uk/en/persons/dr-tahmineh-tayebi

research.aston.ac.uk/en/persons/pam-lowe

😂😂😂

A PhD in Hagitude and Fuckery from ArseonFire University.

Can I help with the data collection?

We may need to promise participants a few sessions with a therapist to get it past the ethics committee.

Running around with your arse on fire? Do Aston do a PhD in that? Sign me up!

To be fair, they've probably been too busy trying to blame each other and running around like their arses are on fire.

I think for you, even if you don't tell us what was said, it might help you work out how bad the department is if you talk to her and see what her experience was like. It could be just some individuals but from today's cock up as well its looking like something is seriously wrong at Aston University!

Most definitely. It’s also making me side-eye a colleague who has worked with this bunch previously, although not for several years.

I don’t know whether to try and find out more from her about her experiences or whether it will just make me lose any respect I’ve got for her.

I missed seeing the un-redacted document but well done everyone for sorting out Aston's incompetency.
There were 3 supervisors listed weren't there - I can't find their names? Were they all from Aston? Why are the names of supervisors deemed to be confidential? Are they not wanting to be associated with the work they are supervising?

Yeah, I don't. No response to my polite email letting them know they'd doxxed one of their students. I am entirely unsurprised.

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Now that one I could get behind! 💜

I'm looking forward to one of next year's PhD thesis being titled "How Aston University Fucked Up. A corpus-assisted discourse analysis of how a PhD corpus-assisted discourse analysis of Mumsnet thesis greatly upset users of Mumsnet"

So long that we should probably have a data stewardship policy associated with it

I wonder if Aston University has any idea how long a load of pissed off women can hold a grudge for?

At least going forward in your department Aston University and their dodgy understanding of ethical and moral decency can be held up a shining example of what NOT TO DO!

@ArabellaScott see you can't even tell I've doctored it!!!!

My second comment on this.

Leaving aside Weetabix, this seems to confirm my suspicions that when shouty posters on threads started to bully other people, got posts removed, once or twice even got threads closed, because there were digressions into cheese and cake and suchlike related discussions, that was because the machines couldn't cope with human behavior, and the monitors working on behalf of Aston or similar institutions had to prevent that.

Sort of the reverse of those 'prove you are human' captcha things for entering some sites. We had to act as though we were not human in order to facilitate non-legal mechanical scrutiny. It really stinks.

If linguistics as a discipline has any ethics, (I'm not convinced, it seems designed to add a new layer of surveillance and control to a totalitarian state system) it needs to demonstrate some collective standards.

I’ve been on a bit of a rabbit hole of reading and just read the transcript of a podcast where Nicci claims to do online ethnography.

One of the most basic fundamentals tenets of online ethnographies is that you don’t come to ‘study’ a community and try and impose your outside or preconceived notions about them.

It is also a fairly basic ethical fundamental of any sort of linguistic (and I assume other fields?) research online that just because a website is not password protected, it does not mean that it is an open space for research - there can still be a reasonable expectation for privacy.

Furthermore, the fact that informed consent would be ‘difficult’ to obtain is not a good reason to not obtain it. It would be much easier to do non ethical research!! But of course we don’t because that goes against any level of morals and decency.

Ugh this whole thing is really fucking aggravating on so many different levels for me. It is so unethical. It is bringing a discipline I have deep love for (not forensic linguistics, but linguistics more generally) into disrepute. And most of all, it is clearly doing harm - and that is one of the most basic things we promise not to do when we decide to be academics.

You can tell we’re all mums on here - telling the student off and looking out for her at the same time. And not getting paid for sorting the business mess out. C’est la vie.

I've taken the liberty of assuming you are a viper.

Mainly so that I could collect the scroll thing and wear the hat.

You're welcome!

The certificate will be hanging in my hall if you ever wish to see it! Admittedly I've had to tippex out your name to put mine in but other than that it looks great!

good to hear.

I trust Aston University has also reported itself to the relevant body over that data breach of Edens personal data.