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Would you consider an Etsy/handmade/selling section?

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IncompleteSenten · 26/02/2024 07:55

I have an Etsy shop and website and so on. I handmake things. Not going to say what obviously.
Would you consider a section where we can share our shops? Under name changes but you could set it so you must be a regular contributor and / or have been a member for more than however long, and people can report shops that are drop shippers.

I'd certainly pay for that. Maybe you have to be a premium member to have access to that facility? Anyone can view or comment but only premium members can share their shops?

You could be allowed only, say, one post a week to stop spamming the board with thread after thread?

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theduchessofspork · 02/03/2024 23:14

I can see the value of a site that promoted high qualify female run businesses.. but it’s a very different business to mumsnet. It’s a lot to have to get involved in disputes

QuirkyCrow · 02/03/2024 23:08

There is a good website here in Finland - https://thefinlandshop.com/. Everything is handmade and can be trusted and verified with the made in Finland seal. It's maybe an idea for someone to step up to the Etsy giants for women in the UK?? I would love to start something like this! I've totally had enough of temu it's makes me sick how they can sell so cheaply!

The Finland Shop - online store for Finnish products

The Finland Shop on uusi Suomessa syntyneiden tuotteiden verkkokauppa. Meiltä löydät tarkkaan valikoidut, kotimaiset design tuotteet kodin sisustuksesta asusteisiin. Lupaamme huippupalvelun ja nopean toimituksen. Tervetuloa!

https://thefinlandshop.com

IncompleteSenten · 01/03/2024 23:21

SecretSoul · 29/02/2024 14:57

I’d love this too! People being able to post requests and people giving their etsy link would be perfect.

Actually, that might be a better idea than mine.
A 'find genuinely hand made' section where people post what sorts of things they're looking for and we can post our links in reply. And if any suggestions are proven to be temu shite and reported, they get deleted.

Plus maybe a regular pinned thread as a single general resource sellers can post once on if anyone wants an idle browse.

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MaMisled · 29/02/2024 20:52

I also love the sound of this! I do think moderating it will be hard though. There will be so many non hand made sellers trying their luck plus all those " I can get you many more sales" people plying their trade!. For genuinely hand made products that take hours, days, weeks to make, 'many more sales' wouldn't be workable!

Would we include unwanted craft supplies? Our genuine surplus?

spidermonkeys · 29/02/2024 20:31

Love this idea

FabFebHalfTerm · 29/02/2024 20:14

@IncompleteSenten

As a buyer I'd love Genuine Posters to be able to link to their small businesses on threads. I'd also like them to have a place to talk about their small businesses/other platforms such as Etsy (great when it started, utter crap now.

you sound lively & if everyone else was I can see it working, but in the real world, not so much (sorry). I think there's just so much moderation required, it's not feasible.

id love sellers to link to their Etsy or website whatever, as I'd love to support them.

Geebray · 29/02/2024 17:25

And it would be a completely different business from running a forum alongside a bit of sponsored content.

IncompleteSenten · 29/02/2024 17:23

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 29/02/2024 16:53

If Mumsnet had their own version of Etsy where they made sure it wasn't full of tat from drop shippers etc.., I'd be interested.

I'd love to see a pro women company set up a hub for genuinely hand crafted items from female owned small businesses.
That would be the USP for me & I'd trust the Mumsnet brand to bring it.

If it's just a bunch of links to Etsy or elsewhere, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

That would be brilliant.

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HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 29/02/2024 16:53

If Mumsnet had their own version of Etsy where they made sure it wasn't full of tat from drop shippers etc.., I'd be interested.

I'd love to see a pro women company set up a hub for genuinely hand crafted items from female owned small businesses.
That would be the USP for me & I'd trust the Mumsnet brand to bring it.

If it's just a bunch of links to Etsy or elsewhere, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

Veggieburgers · 29/02/2024 16:51

Or at least, the shop name and location, if not the actual name.

Veggieburgers · 29/02/2024 16:47

The seller. People won't buy from an anonymous person.

IncompleteSenten · 29/02/2024 16:47

My thoughts on it were (if MN decides to give it a go which they may well not) that we'd make use of the nc facility that already exists so I'd use my shop name on the mners with creative small businesses section and stick to my usual MN name everywhere else.

Mn premium is a paid for thing isn't it? Don't you have to pay a monthly subscription for that? I don't the MN premium membership is free.

Nothing is perfect and never will be, but it's just a thought and the good thing about getting together and talking about how things could be managed is it's step one of seeing is obstacles can be overcome, what would and wouldn't work, what the purpose would be and from mns pov would it bring value to MN or just hassle.

Or MN could just let us link to our shops if a poster starts a thread asking for ideas for what to buy someone instead. I'd have a username that's my shop and link only where appropriate and invited but mn atm would just delete that. Maybe MN would look the other way if we got a premium subscription 😉. We'd need to trust that we are more ethical than to just spam away.

Of course I want to advertise to mners! I'm a business. But I'm a small business. Hand making things and swimming alongside the drop shipping fuckers 😁. But I'm also a keen crafter and love to help other small businesses and love the idea of people like me helping each other out and showing people what hand made can be.

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Geebray · 29/02/2024 16:45

Veggieburgers · 29/02/2024 15:47

People would be far less likely to comment adversely if real names were used.

How do you mean? Who would be using their real name?

Veggieburgers · 29/02/2024 15:47

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:44

Well, OP suggested Premium membership. Which is not a paid area.

I guess I'm just trying to save everyone a bit of trouble, by pointing out the problems with the idea. I've seen things like this go wrong before. Just like Etsy has.

OP seems lovely when she says this:

Re sabotaging other shops first of all I would hope people would be more grown up than that! And embrace the idea of a mutually beneficial and supportive community.

But have you actually been on the internet, OP? Or even in AIBU?!

People would be far less likely to comment adversely if real names were used.

Veggieburgers · 29/02/2024 15:46

It couldn't be anonymous, as people won't buy from a seller without knowing their name and approximate location.
Otherwise you could end up with a UK buyer unwittingly buying from other far off countries.

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:44

SoupDragon · 29/02/2024 15:33

Did you even read the first post? It clearly suggests a paid area. MNHQ will know whether a person is a regular MNer when they "apply" for permission to post.

You seem strangely aggressive in your opposition.

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Well, OP suggested Premium membership. Which is not a paid area.

I guess I'm just trying to save everyone a bit of trouble, by pointing out the problems with the idea. I've seen things like this go wrong before. Just like Etsy has.

OP seems lovely when she says this:

Re sabotaging other shops first of all I would hope people would be more grown up than that! And embrace the idea of a mutually beneficial and supportive community.

But have you actually been on the internet, OP? Or even in AIBU?!

BreakfastAtMimis · 29/02/2024 15:37

I buy a lot on Etsy but I don't think Mumsnet is quite the right forum for this sort of promotion. It would be hard to monitor. There are plenty of other places where sellers can advertise their shops.

SoupDragon · 29/02/2024 15:33

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:28

So it would be a paid area? Would you pay per post, or per account? How would anyone prove they were a "proper" MNer?

Did you even read the first post? It clearly suggests a paid area. MNHQ will know whether a person is a regular MNer when they "apply" for permission to post.

You seem strangely aggressive in your opposition.

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:28

SoupDragon · 29/02/2024 15:19

There are already topic(s) where people pay to post there.

So it would be a paid area? Would you pay per post, or per account? How would anyone prove they were a "proper" MNer?

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:27

IncompleteSenten · 29/02/2024 15:21

No. That's why I said about premium members and said it's something I'd be happy to pay for.

Something more affordable than the big banner adverts from BT and the like isn't the same thing as free.

Your problem is - who polices it. Who decides what's handmade or tasteful enough to be allowed in?

And don't fool yourself that a load of trans badges and merch etc won't start to be posted. There's a lot of that on Etsy.

Veggieburgers · 29/02/2024 15:26

I would like this. I haven't used my Etsy shop for a few years now, as their definition of 'handmade' became very elastic.

It might inspire me to continue making my products.

It would need to be carefully managed, to make sure that no mass produced products are listed.

It could be exactly what Etsy started out to be.

DPotter · 29/02/2024 15:22

Very interesting idea - I'd sign up

Overthebow · 29/02/2024 15:21

I’d like it as a buyer but only if it were actual homemade things by Mumsnetters, not any mlm ‘businesses’ or those horrible word/phrase stickers that appear on everything in Etsy. If there was a way to police it so those weren’t allowed then great, otherwise no.

IncompleteSenten · 29/02/2024 15:21

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:15

But the whole idea is advertising. So Mumsnet would allow it in one forum, but not anywhere else? And people would be getting free advertising?

No. That's why I said about premium members and said it's something I'd be happy to pay for.

Something more affordable than the big banner adverts from BT and the like isn't the same thing as free.

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SoupDragon · 29/02/2024 15:19

Geebray · 29/02/2024 15:15

But the whole idea is advertising. So Mumsnet would allow it in one forum, but not anywhere else? And people would be getting free advertising?

There are already topic(s) where people pay to post there.