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Rampant ageism.

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SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 17/01/2024 15:15

There's just so much of it. If you want to keep the over 60's over here, could we address these hateful posts in a timely manner. One in particular has been reported a while ago. Still there.

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Ap24 · 17/01/2024 17:15

I reported a post a while back that was saying all gen z are impossible to work with, narcissistic, lazy, entitled... MN said no rules had been broken. So surely ageism is allowed, they can't just take down posts that insult the oldies.

Flatulence · 17/01/2024 17:12

Even if we, personally, don't fit a generalisation about a generation surely we can see it applies at a cohort level?
I'm a xennial (early 40s). I've never liked skinny jeans and don't have a side parting. But when there are memes about people my age sporting those fashions it IS broadly accurate even though it doesn't apply to me personally.
I also know that people my age have had a MUCH easier ride re: student finance than someone in their twenties. That's despite me personally accruing and enormous debt for a variety of reasons. I can still see that - at a population level - it is true. The same applies to house buying. It was/is easier for people my age compared to people in their twenties even though for me, personally, it was incredibly hard.
Generalisations exist for a reason. They can be helpful to paint a picture of change. But they're not personal. Lots of younger people ARE - compared to people my age - interested in social justice and veganism and are in therapy (things, I'm sure, plenty will label "woke") even if 20-something Joe Bloggs reading this is a racist carnivore who drives a diesel 4x4. And it's true that it WAS easier for people now in their 60s to buy a house, save, and have a stable career, even if 68-year-old Joanna Bloggs reading this never bought a house and has lots of debt and lost her job in various recessions.
Tldr; stop taking things personally. Just because an accurate descriptor of a generation doesn't apply to YOU doesn't make it incorrect when applied to a cohort.

orangegato · 17/01/2024 17:03

This is golden. Lumping the younger generation together as having certain views, calling them snowflakes, then getting all defensive and personal. Chip is on your own shoulder love!

saraclara · 17/01/2024 16:57

Dammit. What could have been a useful thread now has no value since it turns out that you're equally ageist @SpongeBobJudgeyPants .

As I said on one of the potentially ageist threads, generalisations about any demographic are dangerous. Whether it's about boomers (me) or millennials (my kids), men or women, etc etc.

Best not to throw stones from your glass house.

SwimmingWorrier · 17/01/2024 16:55

Why is Advanced Search there if it's not to be used?

2jacqi · 17/01/2024 16:54

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 17/01/2024 15:58

I think I've pm'd those that wanted me to. If you haven't had one, pse shout, as pm's seem to be glitchy.

me please. link. i am old

SoupDragon · 17/01/2024 16:53

I agree that ageism works both ways. You can't dismiss the entire younger generation as being "snowflakes" and then complain when someone makes sweeping generalisations about over 60s.

ive just looked at the thread I assume this is about and I don't actually think it's ageist. It's certainly making sweeping generalisations but that's not unusual on many threads about various age groups/classes/sexes/religions.

Crikeyalmighty · 17/01/2024 16:53

@RebelMoon that thread really pissed me off and the inference that the OP must be a bit odd if looking for a lodger/house share situation post 60 after divorce as a short term solution- whereas it sounded perfectly practical to me- maybe I'm odd too!!

AyeRightYeAre · 17/01/2024 16:53

I'm fed up with the replies from @MNHQ which state:

We'd prefer if these sort of posts were challenged as part of the thread itself rather than deleted - Mumsnet is a discussion site first and foremost. So we'll let the thread continue but please do report any further concerns as we are always very happy to take a look.

There is no other group who are expected to tolerate hate speech and prejudice.

LauderSyme · 17/01/2024 16:53

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OP you have not addressed why you previously felt justified in using age-related generalisations.

Or are you admitting that there was no justification and you were wrong to do so?

bessytedsy · 17/01/2024 16:51

@SquirrelSoShiny thats a good point, should it not be discussed because it makes others uncomfortable?

SquirrelSoShiny · 17/01/2024 16:50

See I don't actually think that thread needs deleted but then it's consistent with the upbringing I had and the views of my older relatives. DH's family were completely different. So the people who are appalled, I get it - it doesn't reflect your upbringing and experience.

For those of us who DID have that kind of upbringing, it IS predominantly our older relatives who come out with this stuff. It was normal child raising in council estates in my town at that era and our parents are now 65+.

To me it's just a discussion that will either provoke horror or recognition. I find the horror quite moving, I wish more people back then were horrified.

MorrisZapp · 17/01/2024 16:49

Where does ageism end? Should I be re educated for calling my son a 'typical 13 year old'? And my DP a boring old fart? He is a boring old fart. I'm a boring menopausal fart with the legally required midi dress and white trainers. My granny dressed like a granny, and my grandpa smoked a pipe. Isn't this just life stages?

LovePoppy · 17/01/2024 16:47

spearthatbroc · 17/01/2024 16:28

so that is your response when i simply point out that you have been patently ageist in other threads

Didn’t you know? You can only be ageist towards older generations.

Its totally acceptable to make unflattering generalizations about younger generations.

🙄🙄🙄

Cattiwampus · 17/01/2024 16:46

Think some of you have mistaken "site stuff" for flouncer's corner.

No, I’m not going anywhere, Sweetie. I may be old, but I’m not confused.

shearwater2 · 17/01/2024 16:42

There is so much ageism and lazy stereotyping about kids, teenagers, mums, parenting all over MN and on social media generally unfortunately, it doesn't only go one way.

bessytedsy · 17/01/2024 16:41

Rules for thee and not for me I see

Apparently so but don’t you dare point that out! 😆

spearthatbroc · 17/01/2024 16:40

MonsteraMama · 17/01/2024 16:39

Rules for thee and not for me I see 🙄

brace yourself!

bessytedsy · 17/01/2024 16:40

This thread is hilarious!

spearthatbroc · 17/01/2024 16:40

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anyone reading this

All i have done upthread is identify where the OP has been patently ageist herself on other threads 🤷‍♀️

shearwater2 · 17/01/2024 16:39

MN is much kinder if you hide AIBU, Chat and Feminism.A lot fewer random drive by idiots.

MonsteraMama · 17/01/2024 16:39

Rules for thee and not for me I see 🙄

spearthatbroc · 17/01/2024 16:39

bessytedsy · 17/01/2024 16:37

Is it getting a bit bitchy now?

this is illogical! Someone pointed out hypocrisy is not bitchy!

exactly

The OP is not coming across well in her response to me merely pointing out that she has been an ageist previously on mumsnet . “Bitchy” 🙄

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 17/01/2024 16:38

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bessytedsy · 17/01/2024 16:37

Is it getting a bit bitchy now?

this is illogical! Someone pointed out hypocrisy is not bitchy!

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