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UPDATE FROM MNHQ - New OP view

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LilyMumsnet · 02/11/2023 10:34

Hi all,

We're currently testing a new topic page layout called ‘OP view’. You may have noticed it already if you've been on the Gardening topic page in the last month. The aim is to make it easier for users to understand what a thread is about.

Today, we're making ’OP view’ available on Property/DIY, Telly Addicts, The Doghouse, Food/Recipes, Housekeeping and Home decoration. This change will only be on mobile and desktop, OP view is currently not available in the apps.

From initial feedback, you told us that you'd like to be able to switch between OP and classic view. You'll still be able to do this by using the icon on the page, but now you can also choose a default view in your Talk settings.

We appreciate your feedback so feel free to add it to this thread.

OP posts:
HappiestSleeping · 04/11/2023 08:40

YourNameGoesHere · 04/11/2023 08:35

Yes it's an option in settings, thank goodness.

Found it. Thank you. I had looked, but obviously not hard enough 🤦‍♂️

YourNameGoesHere · 04/11/2023 08:35

HappiestSleeping · 04/11/2023 08:34

Does anyone know if there is a way of making the view default to compact view? The OP view is awful.

Yes it's an option in settings, thank goodness.

HappiestSleeping · 04/11/2023 08:34

Does anyone know if there is a way of making the view default to compact view? The OP view is awful.

Summerbay23 · 04/11/2023 08:34

Hate it. Prefer the regular/old style view.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 04/11/2023 06:57

Dreadful. What on earth is the point? It’s so irritating.

SeththeSloth · 03/11/2023 23:24

The font is massive - much prefer the original version.

TreesAtSea · 03/11/2023 18:51

I wondered why things were appearing differently on some threads. Really don't like the OP view: I want to see as quickly as possible what threads are available. I've already changed it back in settings.

BertieBotts · 03/11/2023 18:01

Ah it could be the moderation thing - just from memory, the add message/reply to thread shortcut has always been there throughout previous MN layouts, which might be why they are keen on keeping it.

The quote feature when it was new was a little controversial because people said it would make threads really cluttered and messy.

However I do think most people have got used to this now, so the moderation part isn't really necesssary any more, and it's probably just the wording "reply" which is confusing people.

Legomania · 03/11/2023 16:13

BertieBotts · 03/11/2023 15:08

That makes sense for the OP view, much as I dislike it.

I don't follow how the quote/reply would make a difference here? Can you explain?

I don't know, I'm afraid - just that I assume there is some commercial thinking behind this. Or just simply that they want to provide the quote function but prefer it used in moderation

Munchyseeds2 · 03/11/2023 16:04

I thought there was something wrong
Don't like it at all

PragmaticWench · 03/11/2023 15:56

I wondered why the Property/DIY section looked shit! It's very A-level IT project looking. Hardly any titles fit on the page, not a good change.

BertieBotts · 03/11/2023 15:08

Legomania · 03/11/2023 13:44

My assumption is that MN are trying to increase page dwell time with the op view change, which is an important metric for user engagement and hence ad revenue.

I would guess that the quote thing is something similar

That makes sense for the OP view, much as I dislike it.

I don't follow how the quote/reply would make a difference here? Can you explain?

Legomania · 03/11/2023 13:44

My assumption is that MN are trying to increase page dwell time with the op view change, which is an important metric for user engagement and hence ad revenue.

I would guess that the quote thing is something similar

HyggeTygge · 03/11/2023 13:32

Another one here who gets pissed off daily by the Reply issue and people (understandably) thinking it's "quote". Ffs!

YourNameGoesHere · 03/11/2023 09:55

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/11/2023 09:51

I just don't get it. The quote feature is useful. It is much used. So MN have now moved it to a place* where a great many users can't see it any more so assume it's not possible or it's been removed. Meanwhile, they have a totally useless button (Reply/Add Message) in a very prominent position. Clicking on this simply takes you to the Add your message here box, but because it's got that label on it some users think it will work like the quote feature, or otherwise show a link to the specific post they're replying to - it won't. This causes confusion. Dozens of users have pointed this out to MN. Response: zilch.

*look at the top right of the post and click on the three little dots, if anyone was wondering

There doesn't seem to be much logic behind what MN implement. This new feature is proof of that. It seems sometimes that they are almost deliberately making the site less user friendly with each update or change.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/11/2023 09:51

I just don't get it. The quote feature is useful. It is much used. So MN have now moved it to a place* where a great many users can't see it any more so assume it's not possible or it's been removed. Meanwhile, they have a totally useless button (Reply/Add Message) in a very prominent position. Clicking on this simply takes you to the Add your message here box, but because it's got that label on it some users think it will work like the quote feature, or otherwise show a link to the specific post they're replying to - it won't. This causes confusion. Dozens of users have pointed this out to MN. Response: zilch.

*look at the top right of the post and click on the three little dots, if anyone was wondering

Dumbocracy · 03/11/2023 09:21

I agree it's baffling. They introduce new features that no-one wants and which never seem to have any testing prior to being implemened. Then they spend months / years tweaking them until they eventually give up and move onto another feature users have never asked for.

Perhaps all the PITA advertising that is being forced upon us is to pay for the people doing this important unnecessary work.

DappledThings · 03/11/2023 09:08

I've just started another thread in Site Stuff to raise the "Reply" issue yet again

YourNameGoesHere · 03/11/2023 08:58

HauntedGusset · 03/11/2023 08:32

Any news on the "reply" button @LilyMumsnet ? Because I would say that's really important, unlike this ridiculous cluttered view thing! Posters use "reply" thinking that it posts a direct reply to a specific post, but it doesn't, and it makes threads a bit hard to follow. It needs to be replaced with the "quote" button for it to work the way posters are trying to use it.

Just adding my voice to yet another thread asking about this issue. I must be on double digits now on how many thread's this had been raised.

Honestly this new feature is absolute crap and totally bloody pointless. The reply button issue however is a very major flaw that they have been supposedly looking into for months now (although we all know we will discuss this is code for we hope you all stop asking).

DappledThings · 03/11/2023 08:53

HauntedGusset · 03/11/2023 08:32

Any news on the "reply" button @LilyMumsnet ? Because I would say that's really important, unlike this ridiculous cluttered view thing! Posters use "reply" thinking that it posts a direct reply to a specific post, but it doesn't, and it makes threads a bit hard to follow. It needs to be replaced with the "quote" button for it to work the way posters are trying to use it.

Yep. I've been on at least 3 separate threads specifically about this and there's no response.

HappiestSleeping · 03/11/2023 08:49

Ifailed · 03/11/2023 08:17

Software developers sometimes like to do things for the challenge / because they are interesting to code. The art of management is to only let them do the things that will be useful / wanted by the customer.

No, the Art is tell them to stop fiddling with something which is working.

This 👆

Although to be fair, this is what happens when there is no product manager in place. If there was, there would probably be better consultation prior to changes being implemented.

@Whinge this is testing of a sort, although there are much better ways of undertaking it than to make a change without making it obvious that it is a test and showing the alternative options.

HauntedGusset · 03/11/2023 08:32

Any news on the "reply" button @LilyMumsnet ? Because I would say that's really important, unlike this ridiculous cluttered view thing! Posters use "reply" thinking that it posts a direct reply to a specific post, but it doesn't, and it makes threads a bit hard to follow. It needs to be replaced with the "quote" button for it to work the way posters are trying to use it.

Twiglets1 · 03/11/2023 08:30

TeenDivided · 03/11/2023 08:21

If you go to your talk settings you should be able to change it permanently.

Thank you - I’ll try that

TeenDivided · 03/11/2023 08:21

Twiglets1 · 03/11/2023 08:18

I’ve worked out how to turn it back to normal view but annoying ever time I leave Mumsnet & come back to it, the view has reverted to this new one.

If you go to your talk settings you should be able to change it permanently.

Twiglets1 · 03/11/2023 08:18

I’ve worked out how to turn it back to normal view but annoying ever time I leave Mumsnet & come back to it, the view has reverted to this new one.

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