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Jewish Mumsnetter Section

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Asthebellcurves · 14/10/2023 14:43

I was asked by Mumsnet to start a post here to request a Jewish Mumsnetter section. This request comes out of a thread where Jewish people were discussing ethnic and religious identities that was then co-opted by others refusing to provide space for those conversations. Thus illustrating the need for a distinct Jewish space on here. Of course, Jewish conversation and contribution is valuable across mumsnet, but a neat space for Jewish perspectives to be protected and valued is a great addition - just as Black, South Asian, Welsh, Irish and Scottish mumsnetters have and benefit from.

”When it comes to starting new boards, we're pretty much guided by what our users want. The Black Mumsnetters, SE Asian MNers, Craicnet, etc came about because users started threads requesting their own space. We'll certainly give consideration to a Jewish Mumsnetters section if there is demand. You're quite welcome to start a thread in Site Stuff to ask if others feel the same.”

I know many of us have felt very hurt by the moderation of Mumsnet this week, as anti semitic posters have been allowed to run wild while many factual comments that are supportive of the Jewish community have been deleted. I hope this may serve as an opportunity for Mumsnet to build much needed bridges.

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Asthebellcurves · 14/10/2023 20:34

CarpetLady · 14/10/2023 18:58

This is a good idea. I'd also like the people who moderate MN to learn a bit about antisemitism (this is a good starting point https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism, last three items on the list in particular).

Absolutely. The moderation quality this week has unfortunately been poor, and has allowed for the normalisation of antisemitism.

We need to do better than say never again, we have to action never again, and that means places like Mumsnet taking responsibility and learning to protect Jewish people online. I hope a conversation about meaningfully protecting the Jewish Mumsnet board but also Jewish users on the site as a whole can be had.

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PurpleChrayne · 14/10/2023 20:32

Shavua tov!

Please can we have a section of our own.

For our own safety and also just to chat to other Jewish women.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 14/10/2023 20:30

I'm not Jewish but I'm scared when the future holds.

I'm only here because my great great grandfather fled a massacre where his family died and started a new life and family.

petuniasandpetals · 14/10/2023 20:29

Yes please.
Jews have very different attitudes to their religion. Many observant Jews will be observing the Sabbath and won't be using phones etc on a Saturday.
So there may well be many more who support this idea but won't see this thread as it has gone from Active.

HorribleHisTories15 · 14/10/2023 20:24

Please don't call yourself that @VerityUnreasonble , you are not and there is not one. People are people and their ethnicity or race does not determine whether they are good or evil. You alone are not responsible for political decisions any more than I am or anyone else in any country.

I understand that you are probably in a very confused position and place right now. But it will get better Flowers

bananasplitsarefab · 14/10/2023 20:20

BlurredEdges · 14/10/2023 19:52

This is in Berlin today (see pics) graffiti marking the homes of Jews.
Berlin. 2023

I am glad my grandparents are not around to see this, but it would not have surprised them. 😞

I am truly appalled and so sorry to see this in 2023.

Cubic · 14/10/2023 20:03

Not Jewish but I've been horrified by what I've read on mumsnet this week. I support this.

@BlurredEdges that's disgusting, it's 2023.

Catusrusty · 14/10/2023 20:02

BlurredEdges · 14/10/2023 19:52

This is in Berlin today (see pics) graffiti marking the homes of Jews.
Berlin. 2023

I am glad my grandparents are not around to see this, but it would not have surprised them. 😞

That is so so upsetting to see.

I fully support a Jewish board despite being an atheist myself.

I've been utterly horrified by some of the excuses for inexcusable Hamas atrocities and the rhetoric that Israeli Jews should not be entitled to protect themselves.

I really hope that Jewish Mumsnetters can feel some support and empathy on here. No one deserves what Jewish people have been subjected to time and again the world over.

Insommmmnia · 14/10/2023 19:54

BlurredEdges · 14/10/2023 19:52

This is in Berlin today (see pics) graffiti marking the homes of Jews.
Berlin. 2023

I am glad my grandparents are not around to see this, but it would not have surprised them. 😞

That's chilling to see

BlurredEdges · 14/10/2023 19:52

This is in Berlin today (see pics) graffiti marking the homes of Jews.
Berlin. 2023

I am glad my grandparents are not around to see this, but it would not have surprised them. 😞

Jewish Mumsnetter Section
Jewish Mumsnetter Section
WaveyGodshawk · 14/10/2023 19:47

etmoietmoietmoi · 14/10/2023 19:16

I actually feel tearful at some of the lovely posts from non-Jewish people here. It's such an antidote.

And it's a relief tbqh. In some of the other threads I found myself sending a 'thank you' post to replies from posters that had managed to interact with me without 'doing an antisemitism', or just being a trolling twat. But I shouldn't have felt that I had to say thank you. I shouldn't have felt so utterly grateful not to have had a goady, Jew-baiting reply.

Flowers
bananasplitsarefab · 14/10/2023 19:34

Not Jewish but I fully support this.

I have been horrified by the blatant antisemitism on some threads. I have reported several posts and they have been removed.

BeggyMitchell · 14/10/2023 19:31

Well done Mumsnet HQ 👍🏻.

SorrelForbes · 14/10/2023 19:30

Yes please.

INTERNETEXPL0RER · 14/10/2023 19:30

MrTiddlesTheCat · 14/10/2023 14:54

Not jewish but support this. The antisemitism and open vitriol has been horrific on mumsnet this week.

I agree.

loveforallhatredfornone · 14/10/2023 19:26

I'm not Jewish but also want to lend my support for this proposal.

Some of what I have read on threads this week has been utterly horrifying to see,

Sending my support and love to you all

DuskyBlueDepartingLight · 14/10/2023 19:26

I fully support this.

The antisemitism on MN this week has been appalling.

saturnspinkhoop · 14/10/2023 19:25

I also think that a Jewish mumsnetters section is a great idea.

Teddleshon · 14/10/2023 19:25

@quantumbutterfly I wish there was a way us non Jews could show our support for the Jewish community at this terrible time.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 14/10/2023 19:24

Great idea. This would be great

Lindos1 · 14/10/2023 19:22

I'm not Jewish but I've been feeling absolutely sick & shaken all week. I'm screaming inside thinking about those who've been taken hostage. I don't know why there isn't more outrage about this world-wide.
I can't imagine what you must be going through if you are Jewish. I'm so, so sorry.
I totally agree you should have your own space, but it's so sad that it's come to this.

natura · 14/10/2023 19:21

I wish I didn't want to say 'yes' to this – the thought crossed my mind: "Surely this too shall pass? Surely in a few months it won't be needed?"

But as many, many other PPs have said, the baked-in antisemitism around here has shocked me this week, and I genuinely don't know how things are going to progress.

Add my name to the request: in a world where we're never truly permitted to feel safe and 'home', let's attempt a little space where we might feel it here.

quantumbutterfly · 14/10/2023 19:20

etmoietmoietmoi · 14/10/2023 19:16

I actually feel tearful at some of the lovely posts from non-Jewish people here. It's such an antidote.

And it's a relief tbqh. In some of the other threads I found myself sending a 'thank you' post to replies from posters that had managed to interact with me without 'doing an antisemitism', or just being a trolling twat. But I shouldn't have felt that I had to say thank you. I shouldn't have felt so utterly grateful not to have had a goady, Jew-baiting reply.

FlowersWine

BananaPyjamaLlama · 14/10/2023 19:18

Not Jewish but I support this.

Just bear in mind that you'll still get comments from "others"
eg people who arent Irish/Welsh/Scottish often accidentally (or deliberately) comment on Irish/Welsh/Scottish threads.
Ditto parents with no experience of boarding schools offering their thoughts on the Parents of boarding school kids threads.

etmoietmoietmoi · 14/10/2023 19:16

I actually feel tearful at some of the lovely posts from non-Jewish people here. It's such an antidote.

And it's a relief tbqh. In some of the other threads I found myself sending a 'thank you' post to replies from posters that had managed to interact with me without 'doing an antisemitism', or just being a trolling twat. But I shouldn't have felt that I had to say thank you. I shouldn't have felt so utterly grateful not to have had a goady, Jew-baiting reply.