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Why are you making fun of someone's appearance with your logo change

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Reasonableadjustments · 06/05/2023 06:50

Can I ask why you've changed the logo to be big ears to poke fun at King Charles?

I'm not a royalist but I don't think making fun of someone like this for their appearance is really fair.

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StormzyinaTCup · 09/05/2023 17:19

Any clarification yet?
@JustineMumsnet
@JustineMN
@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

Tipapi · 09/05/2023 14:52

Well I for one welcome this clarification. I left Mumsnet a while ago due to confusing and inconsistent things.

I now know that I can create a thread on Justine Roberts CBE and a feature on her face I find unfortunate. After all she's regularly made power lists for most influential people and has made millions from a message board.

ArcaneWireless · 08/05/2023 16:51

Not sure why the login thing came up…

SirChenjins · 08/05/2023 15:57

Which thread is that? I’m happy to report it too - MN can be a lot of things but it shouldn’t be a place where bullying and mocking someone because of their physical appearance is allowed. NITS and all that.

Reasonableadjustments · 08/05/2023 14:01

I reported that thread @gamerchick as I said I would. The decision to keep it up rests with MNHQ.

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ArcaneWireless · 08/05/2023 13:56

I didn’t much care for that thread either gamerchick but apparently it has been decided that it is ok to comment on a pensioner’s teeth. 🤷🏻‍♀️

gamerchick · 08/05/2023 13:46

They don't need to come back. People won't be happy no matter what is said. like I said early on, people want a public whipping.

The logo was changed back, the end. Stop banging on man.

Notice the teeth thread is still up like. Are the kings teeth fair game, just not his ears?Hmm

kittensinthekitchen · 08/05/2023 12:10

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

Do you have any thoughts on the response of the statement you made on behalf of Mumsnet?

@JustineMumsnet @JustineMN (sorry I can't remember which tag)

Anything to add? It would be helpful to know if this is a Mumsnet policy, or a personal one.

Dontcallmescarface · 08/05/2023 12:01

we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich

What kind of batshit nonsense is this? Define "rich"? I earn 21k a year does this mean that I can now mock anyone earning, say 50K a year as, to me anyway, they are "rich".

QuickGuide · 08/05/2023 11:52

Hi everyone - we’re sorry that the logo has upset everyone. We honestly didn’t think beforehand how it might go down as it was intended as bit of fun - but we take your point. In a world where people are being arrested for being antimonarchist, we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful but clearly we misjudged the mood and it was poorly executed. We've now taken it down.

Even if this was remotely sensible, you're not setting the example that it's OK to ridicule the rich and powerful, you're making it OK to ridicule someone for having big ears.

multivac · 08/05/2023 11:49

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 06/05/2023 10:26

Hi everyone - we’re sorry that the logo has upset everyone. We honestly didn’t think beforehand how it might go down as it was intended as bit of fun - but we take your point. In a world where people are being arrested for being antimonarchist, we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful but clearly we misjudged the mood and it was poorly executed. We've now taken it down.

This really doesn't address the issue. You are spectacularly missing the point of the 'upset' - and that is disappointing.

spidereggs · 07/05/2023 21:20

Just catching up after a weekend of no signal.

Saw the logo, horrific, but the response to removing it, even worse.

We allow and promote bullying on Mumsnet?

Nothing will be done no doubt but what a change here.

StraightOuttaContext · 07/05/2023 20:26

@Lostinalibrary Plenty of people on here think it’s ok to expect 100% tax from those on PAYE to support the welfare system

Citation please.

daisymoonlight · 07/05/2023 18:32

Florissante · 07/05/2023 18:30

we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful

So when are you going to make fun of Justine Roberts?

😂

Florissante · 07/05/2023 18:30

we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful

So when are you going to make fun of Justine Roberts?

Lostinalibrary · 07/05/2023 12:18

DejaVoodoo · 07/05/2023 12:02

we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful

I agree, as long as it's their behaviour, ideas or actions that are being shown up; never their physical appearance or anything else beyond their control.

So can we make fun of the ‘poor’ then? Plenty of people on here think it’s ok to expect 100% tax from those on PAYE to support the welfare system. If we are talking about being allowed to mock people for ideas - these posters are not fair game? Where is the cut off for making fun out of someone by socio-economic status. Can we expand this to other characteristics or not?

DejaVoodoo · 07/05/2023 12:02

we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful

I agree, as long as it's their behaviour, ideas or actions that are being shown up; never their physical appearance or anything else beyond their control.

SirChenjins · 07/05/2023 11:24

kittensinthekitchen · 07/05/2023 10:55

I think this is going to be another occasion when MN make a shitty comment then disappear, waiting for it to be forgotten again 🙄

I agree. Move along now, nothing to see here.

kittensinthekitchen · 07/05/2023 10:55

I think this is going to be another occasion when MN make a shitty comment then disappear, waiting for it to be forgotten again 🙄

Hedonism · 07/05/2023 10:20

we think it’s important as a society that we can freely make fun of the rich and powerful

I don't think anyone should be making fun of anyone tbh. I agree with pp that the response is more problematic than the logo was in the first place.

Whinge · 07/05/2023 10:08

I'm sure many of us expected a sorry not sorry response, but that response is shocking. Shock

StormzyinaTCup · 07/05/2023 10:06

Reasonableadjustments · 07/05/2023 09:46

Lady Louise has a physical difference. Would it be ok on the day of her 21st birthday to change the logo to make mockery of that physical difference as she is rich and powerful? If not, why not.

(Note - I don't think this should be done at all but this is where this policy change takes us)

Or Eugenie's Scoliosis, where do MN sit on that, is she fair game?

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 07/05/2023 09:59

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

so it’s ok to take the piss out of someone because of their appearance if they are rich and powerful? Seriously? Bullying someone according to their appearance is bullying; however rich and powerful they are, and whoever they are. Have fixed your statement for you…

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet ·Yesterday 10:26

Hi everyone - we’re SO sorry that the logo has upset everyone. We honestly didn’t think beforehand how it might go down as it was misguidedly intended as bit of fun - but we fully understand quite how wrong we were to make fun of someone’s appearance, as that can never be the right thing to do. We've now taken it down; apologies again. We will do better in future to think these things through properly.

Reasonableadjustments · 07/05/2023 09:46

Lady Louise has a physical difference. Would it be ok on the day of her 21st birthday to change the logo to make mockery of that physical difference as she is rich and powerful? If not, why not.

(Note - I don't think this should be done at all but this is where this policy change takes us)

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