Feminism boards

That’s the trope you’re going for in a tread about feminism, to talk down a woman expressing her views.

No, that’s what you came here to do. I replied to this: But for the love of Boudicca stop moaning about it and going on about how very shit you think it is and trying to get it removed.

The irony of telling other women to stop trying to get it removed when the splitting feminism into two was campaigned for in much the same way.

Report the post if you think it breaks guidelines. Why are you even on that board if you find it so upsetting? Other peoples opinions upsetting or challenging you shouldn’t mean this forum has to create a whole different feminism board especially if that then means some of the regular women wanting to discuss everything in one place, have their posts moved without their agreement to the other board hardly anyone goes to.

If a subject is to do with Feminism then it is to do with either the female sex or the prejudices/stereotypes due to sex, ie gender. So the appropriate place for everything to do with Feminism or discussed from a Feminist perspective is the Feminism: Sex and Gender board. It's not the Feminism: Trans issues board.

No wonder the old-timers call it FWR - Feminism and Women's Rights.

You sound very bossy

Seriously? That’s the trope you’re going for in a tread about feminism, to talk down a woman expressing her views.

Debating feminism is one thing - telling women you disagree with that they’re MRA’s / condoning rape and death threats and promoting mutilation of children is something else,

And it’s ok for some feminists to choose not to be around that level of discussion, and keep the separate board MN provided for that reason.

There’s a big thread there that is literally telling people they cannot be feminist, or call themselves feminist, unless they are GC

I can’t find any such thread, but so what? Feminists debate it all the time. Plenty of mainstream feminists have said you can’t be feminist if your feminism doesn’t include transwomen. People are entitled to their opinions on the topic.

You sound very bossy. You’ve come here to tell people what they should and shouldn’t say and if they can moan at all, while moaning about a thread defining what a feminist is or is not, apparently. I think it’s quite exclusionary to have separate feminism boards.

It’s odd reading this thread right after visiting the sex and gender board.

There’s a big thread there that is literally telling people they cannot be feminist, or call themselves feminist, unless they are GC.

It’s the very definition of exclusionary feminism.

And that’s why the feminism chat board was asked for and provided and is needed.

Non GC feminists were and are fed up with getting called names and all sorts for not being GC. On feminism chat it’s actually possible to have a discussion about women and girls and feminism without it turning into a trans-focussed bear-pit.

if you don’t like it and think it’s tumbleweed, don’t go there. How is it harming you or causing you inconvenience?

But for the love of Boudicca stop moaning about it and going on about how very shit you think it is and trying to get it removed.

I think you’re probably wasting your time here. MN knows, clearly, as everyone can see that those lobbying for the separation were never frequent users and chat doesn’t get used by them or anyone else

its split and im not going to comment on whether it was a good idea or not (i lied…it was a stupid idea)

however now its split the thing i find most galling is the posters who ‘complained’ (thats not the word i want to use) that they were completely unable to discuss the vital feminist topics they wanted to discuss 🥺 (ok they never were able to start a thread for some unbeknown reason but still)

are they now all over those topics now they are in a completely different ‘safe’ board? Are they fuck 😀

there is a particular poster I’m thinking of that is a regular on the feminism threads, also complained frequently but ive never ever seen them on a feminism chat thread

and im not upset that the boards split, i thought it was a stupid idea and still do, but the split hasn’t worked. If MNHQ didnt move some of these threads the chat board would have nothing on it

( and to any posters that argued in good faith that a separate board was vital and theyeve been diligently starting threads in chat ever since…I’m not talking about you 🙂, im not 100% sure you exist….but im not talking about you)

And yet you took the time and effort to go onto a thread about it (that you could have easily ignored) just to tell us all how horrible we are...

I don’t know. The type of threads apparently getting lost were largely being ignored anyway. I see more threads in ‘active’ on the feminism boards now than before the split.

It’s such a bad look for a mums forum to treat the feminism section and it’s users like they’re a problem because misogynists complain about it. AIBU is a brutal board with nastiness every day, including to vulnerable people and with threads that probably do belong elsewhere but there is little moderating of it. Ridiculous.

I agree, one board would be better and for the reasons mentioned. I posted something in the sex and gender board (under a different use name I think) which MNHQ moved to the chat board without request or discussion and ignored me when I asked them to move it back to where I started it.

When the boards split, posters with known GC views were told to 'fuck off back to your own board'.

The multitude of threads people apparently wanted to start in a safe space never happened and the women who would have been interested had been told to fuck off so all those conversations (effects of porn, domestic violence etc) take place on the actual FWS board and the Feminism:Chat board is a irrevelance. It seems to be used for much less high traffic duplicated threads of something already being discussed on FWR.

@Believerinbiology I think you’re probably wasting your time here. MN knows, clearly, as everyone can see that those lobbying for the separation were never frequent users and chat doesn’t get used by them or anyone else. MN decided to protect their brand by creating separate spaces and reducing the traffic deliberately. This is the way they’ve decided to do things, they don’t want the feminism board dominating. That’s their choice. I think grassroots feminism works best offline personally.

But I posted yesterday in the chat one. And I don't believe TWAW at all. Just the issue wasn't a trans one.

I think we just need to use the sex / gender board for all our feminist posts and over time it will be the main board and the other is there for the minority of people that believe TWAW and don't perceive a conflict of rights

Agree totally. It was never about those vocal posters having an area to chat about their kind of feminism. Now it exists, no one posts. And you still get posters like @procrastinatingtree complaining that no one starts threads on their preferred topics! Start your own, and keep it active. That's on you, not on other posters.

I would prefer to be able to talk about things like the terrible rape conviction rates. Pornography and the harm it is causing young girls in relationships. Domestic abuse

Start a post then. All of these things have always been regularly talked about on the feminism boards. None of these things can be addressed adequately without clear language around women and girls and without identifying that one sex is responsible for all of those crimes and injustices and that moving them into our sex class is further injustice against us. This thread is about reversing a decision lobbied for my people who never used the board for these issues. It’s not about what you think other women should prioritise.