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Anyone seen the MN microsite?

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hunkermunker · 15/11/2007 22:22

here

I've a couple of comments about it - especially the bf section (surprise, surprise!).

And the weaning section.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 17/11/2007 11:40

Do mean PFB syndrome www?

WideWebWitch · 17/11/2007 11:00

I agree Tiktok. Also, it is slightly insulting to suggest that a midwife with one baby will have ALL the answers to every child related issue any of us might have. I think not.

tiktok · 17/11/2007 10:31

I've been away a lot for the past couple of days so have only now caught up.

I am glad this issue has been raised, and it's good to see that mumsnet towers are listening.

It's been expressed pretty clearly on this thread - ads (ethical ones) are fine; ads dressed up as a caring, omniscient (all your babycare questions?) service smell a bit, whatever the banners saying 'promotion.' The microsite questions ('feasible' breastfeeding, my arse!) are a silly device for promoting a load of consumer stuff.

No one - including me - has a 'problem' with bottles, sterilisers, pumps, teats (or even formula milk). People can, and should, sell these products freely and mothers should have access to them freely (I don't agree with stuff being on prescription for instance). But how they are marketed and promoted is the problem. It is very simple to check the WHO code and see how to market feeding equipment in a way that is ethical. I don't think sterilisers or pumps are mentioned in the WHO code, as it happens, but because they are always used with bottles, they are covered by default.

I know my name has been mentioned as being available as free resource, but I don't think this should mean no one else apart from me and other regulars can come on and offer a similar service - I don't want to be tied to MN for life or every day, for a start. And I think people who have something to sell can take part in live chats - but they should stick to what they have to sell. It is a bit outrageous that someone employed by a company selling humidifiers and sterilisers and pumps can somehow be expected to answer all your questions on babycare and wellbeing - I mean, just how 'expert' can someone be?

Lets have a live chat about Phillips humidifiers (yawn) if people want one, knowing the answerer is employed to sell 'em.

But dogmatic advice based on how the humidifier seller 'always' weans babies in the same way, and what she advises about sleep.....come on! It's a bit crappy, innit?!

WideWebWitch · 17/11/2007 08:21

Oh I'm glad to read Justine's update - I utterly agree with Humphreycushion:

"Advertisements are fine. They're annoying a lot of the time, but they're fine. I get that "MN is a business".

Advertisements dressed up as caring and expert advice, that just so happen to recommend items by a single manufacturer are devious. And having them linked to chat is awful."

Agree with Pruners and Tamum too.

fruitloop79 · 17/11/2007 07:53

if you've got a hungry baby, feed them!!!!

NappiesGaloreisarubbishmum · 16/11/2007 22:19

um, just to second what vvvqv said (i think) id also be happy to do more to pay for MN, but am mighty pleased this sort of advertising is not going to be used from now on.

make some (shite) products. ill buy them. im a right mug, me, ill buy anything.

pinkspottywellies · 16/11/2007 22:03

Re whether or not Vicki has the experience, qualifications, answers or anything else to qualify her as an expert - as others have pointed out on here, people like Tiktok, Mears, Hunker et al have proved themselves on Mumsnet and earned thier place as MN experts. So far the advice on the microsite doesn't seem to earn Vicki that place.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 16/11/2007 21:14

Will she give out {{{{{hugs}}}}}} when needed?

moondog · 16/11/2007 21:12

visceral

moondog · 16/11/2007 21:11

Actually I used to think Avent products were ok.I had one of their pumps and some bottles. Now I hae a negative vesceral reaction to the name .

hunkermunker · 16/11/2007 21:10

She'll recommend Avent plaid, MD, just you watch...

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moondog · 16/11/2007 21:09

Quite Hunker.
Quite.
Vicky,do you have an answer to my ds's tank top 'n shirt quandry I wonder?

VeniVidiVickiQV · 16/11/2007 21:09

1st time - read the thread again

hunkermunker · 16/11/2007 21:09

1stTMS, of course it doesn't make you a bad mum - why on earth would it?!

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PrunersOfEight · 16/11/2007 21:08

Who attacked the woman?
This is about crap advertising!

hunkermunker · 16/11/2007 21:08

Glad the Talk thread's gone too.

Not keen on the wording still though:

"All of your baby care questions answered, thanks to Vicki Scott, the first baby feeding and wellbeing advisor to Philips AVENT. Visit Vicki?s new page for expert advice, answers and tips to make your life just that little bit easier. You can also ask Vicki a question and post your top tips for returning to work."

If they're all being answered by Vicki, what's the point of having anybody else posting anything at all on here?

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1stTimeMUMsez · 16/11/2007 21:07

Are all people guilty till proven innocent? I can't believe the personal attacks being made against this poor lady.
Due to Breast Cancer i was unalbe to BF my DS, does that make me a bad mum? I used a mixture of tomeetipee and avent & my DS is doing great thanks to the help of my Midwive and professional support networks.

I am ashamed to call my self a MNer

VeniVidiVickiQV · 16/11/2007 21:05

Good news that the talk thread has been pulled.

I'm still feeling somewhat disillusioned though.

FWIW, I am quite happy to be involved in anything that helps MN (and MNHQ ) money. I'm reluctant to be a part of something that is ultimately lining the pockets of an outside company and usually at the expense of parents who are being encouraged to buy things that just arent necessary.

MrsJohnCusack · 16/11/2007 20:57

Thank you so much Justine

giraffeski · 16/11/2007 17:45

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moondog · 16/11/2007 17:39

Mind you, remember that professional MW journals are happy to carry formula ads so they are by no means blameless.

Peachy · 16/11/2007 17:39

That's a really good point giraffeski- forgot that part of it all - they're not even supposed to sue endorsed EDD wheels, are they? tahts why Unicef amke their own

(Thanks MD )

giraffeski · 16/11/2007 17:38

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moondog · 16/11/2007 17:38

Oh well done you Peachy!!

giraffeski · 16/11/2007 17:33

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