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Forse's sweethearts section

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Pan · 22/06/2007 11:18

I know I've been away for a bit, but where did this come from in my absence??

tbh, I do find it a bit distasteful to have it there.

not wishing to be controversial at all. But v. curious.

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McDreamy · 22/06/2007 17:46

Pan you have your opinions to which you are of course entitled to but you clearly have no idea what it's like to be in the forces or married to the forces. If you don't like the forces section then please don't grace us with your presence - you wil not be missed!

As for commenting on jobs in the forces and how they all contribute tho killing families I can only reiterate my point above - you clearly have no idea! How sad

Pixiefish · 22/06/2007 17:45

I thank the armed forces for being there and for keeping us safe. It's not them that take us to war it's governments- they defend us.

Joining the forces these men and women risk their own lives for the good of everyone.

Their wives, husbands and partners SHOULD have at the very least somewhere to chat

looneytune · 22/06/2007 17:44

PMSL at this whole thread - he's barking!!

Desiderata · 22/06/2007 17:44

Remember your apostrophes, Pan.

looneytune · 22/06/2007 17:44

I wondered the very same jinxed.

Pan · 22/06/2007 17:43

Sorry DaddyJ..nothing of the sort...just a simple denial issued, not "cleared up" at all. A flaming? Hmm.......if you wish..

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jinxed · 22/06/2007 17:42

But what is your point?

Thats what I dont understand!

The OP suggests you dont like the new topic, but you have no reason why not.

Pan · 22/06/2007 17:42

Your being absurd...tell me where the back-tracking is??? Actually don't waste your time, it's futile.

It appears the main point is left and now you wish to continue a dispute by other means. Weeel, I'll leave it to you.

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DaddyJ · 22/06/2007 17:40

The flaming you got was unfortunate, Pan,
but not surprising.
The phrase 'distasteful' in your OP
invited some strong replies.

Your question was flawed
and the flaw pointed out to you.

Glad that's cleared up, though.

jinxed · 22/06/2007 17:39

do your legs hurt Pan? All that back tracking!

looneytune · 22/06/2007 17:37

I would have loved to leave it there HOWEVER can you please explain why you think it's distasteful for forces wives to CHAT about things like missing their partner, moaning about living quarters etc etc? And sorry but you say:

'I have not accused anyone of murder, don't hold anyone personally responsible, don't have an opinion to express here on Iraq or Afghanistan, or ANY of the "sins" I have been asked to account for.....'.

Some people may think your earlier post may imply you are:

'just well,...it's the being paid to kill children, and mothers and fathers. Not very Mumsnet it is?? And being subsidised whilst doing it. just curious.'

Basic premise. "Killing children, mothers,and fathers is not very Mumsnetty."

Pan · 22/06/2007 17:31

Wow......ahem..looney....to repeat, for the last time, I have not accused anyone of murder, don't hold anyone personally responsible, don't have an opinion to express here on Iraq or Afghanistan, or ANY of the "sins" I have been asked to account for, not personally insulted anyone here.....my opinions on abortion is personal, and doesn't really go much beyond that which I stated what seems like ages ago.

In comparison, other posters have been pretty rude, and unpleasantly personal, but I have let it go rather than asking MNHQ to censor them.

It is also hard to believe that no-one else had asked the same question - but apparently not. Okay. I have asked it, and not had it answered, which I don't mind at all. It doesn't mess my day up!!!

And what I do?? I am in full time paid employment in a job I luuuurve doing, that makes a difference to the good, to lots of people. Every day.

Would be simply overjoyed to leave this thread here. Ta.

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looneytune · 22/06/2007 17:00

Right, I am NOT in any way married to or related to anyone in the forces but I TOTALLY AGREE with the responses you received to your OP.

You say 'my, you are an aggressive lot...where does that come from??..ah! yes, well...' well now it's my turn, where do I get it from??????!!!

I think you are totally out of order for having a go at the PARTNERS/WIVES of people in the forces. I imagine all they want is a chat area for them to talk about things that they have in common - like we have an area for us CHILDMINDERS etc to talk - WTF is wrong with that???!!!

God knows why but you sound like you definitely got out of the bed the wrong side this morning!!!! I HATE people like you, i really do!! (i don't even need to meet you in RL to decide that!!)

Scootergrrrl · 22/06/2007 16:21

And Mr Pan? What do you do that makes such a difference?

Pan · 22/06/2007 15:57

ah< mrs pan is actually unemployed>>>>>between jobs>>>>

right dinner time as it were

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DaddyJ · 22/06/2007 15:57

I was about to answer your initial question
but littlelapin has already done the honours:

Being a soldier does not equate to killing families.

Being a soldier's wife/partner does not equate to killing families.

No conflict with MN values here.

Scootergrrrl · 22/06/2007 15:53

Just out of interest, and not that I expect you to answer, but what does Mrs Pan do? Is it something we would all approve of?

jinxed · 22/06/2007 15:45

I really cant bring myself to respond.

I think I will have to leave this thread now on the basis that there wasnt really an opening question to be answered.

Pan · 22/06/2007 15:44

afternoon desi. Have you calmed down yet?? And, I am male, FWIW

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Desiderata · 22/06/2007 15:41

Great!

Pan · 22/06/2007 15:36

Well, MB there was a veritable queue previously whilst I was away, asking about abortion of all things.

V. happy. to leave it here.

Infact, in view of the lack of a response to my intial, simple question, I will do!!

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Scootergrrrl · 22/06/2007 15:35

Slaughtering families is consistent with Mumsnet values because if I say that Pan will bugger off and go away.
There you go - happy now?

madge7 · 22/06/2007 15:33

Pan, get your head out of your arse and smell the coffee will you.................FFS!!!!!

Blandmum · 22/06/2007 15:33

I shouldn't hold your breath.

Pan · 22/06/2007 15:28

Well, this is all very interesting whilst I've been doing the shopping, the stairs and the cooker.........

Hello Justine, (my commanding officer, in these circs. dontcha know) - message understood.

" I think you're in the minority in your distaste tbh "....you know, you may be right!!

And to answer the other fan mail:

in no particular order....

my, you are an aggressive lot...where does that come from??..ah! yes, well...

mildmanneredjanitor - hmm......a deeply personal insult, which doesn't appear to have been considered worthy of rebuke as yet. How about if I was to make a swipe at your questionable credentials as a woman, eh? Of course I wouldn't, as I am civilised and rely on good debate and argument rather than trading insults, so you get my point??

and what's all this talk about "murderers"?? Is someone fessing up to something, as I haven't used that phrase....MB, are you saying that Belsen liberators were murderers?? And my "world" is far from black and white, so you look after yours and don't worry about mine,ok??

"get a life"...I have one thanks...IME this is usually said by peeps projecting their own insecurities.........

and me applying to join the "forces"...risible........

and I STILL don't see any poster starting a post with "Slaughtering families is consistent with Mumsnet values, because..."

Am not being unreasonable, or personal, unlike some posters here.

And let's not forget it is a "public" forum - if you post something, others may well disagree with you.

Right - offski again. If anyone wishes to ask me anything else about well, anything, ask away.

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