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Forse's sweethearts section

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Pan · 22/06/2007 11:18

I know I've been away for a bit, but where did this come from in my absence??

tbh, I do find it a bit distasteful to have it there.

not wishing to be controversial at all. But v. curious.

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EffiePerine · 23/06/2007 09:02

Pan: why didn't you just post that to start with? Or were you trying to get people wound up? If that's you POV, fine, youare in a minority, but we could have had a proper discussion about it rather than just lots of hums and general wankiness...

littlelapin · 23/06/2007 08:56

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yogimum · 23/06/2007 08:43

Pan My dh is in the RFA and they support the army navy etc, his ship has also been involved in stopping drug trafficking, and also aiding british tourists caught out in hurricanes in the caribbean. So I'm afraid they do look after your interests aswell.

looneytune · 23/06/2007 08:35

So you're upset that you're being reminded of it just because there is a section called 'Forces Sweethearts', I hardly ever even notice it is there and would NEVER have thought in a million years it would be seen as distasteful!!!

Anyway, so pleased that was your last post. GO AWAY and STAY AWAY!!!

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Pan · 23/06/2007 08:28

Morning all!

Am really going to make this my last post on the topic, and you can merrily get on with things afterwards without me.

  • I DO object to having a "military" prescence on these boards everytime I log on. It IS distateful to me. You as partners of people in "the forces" do no doubt experience unusual dynamics, but..that is no reason why I should be reminded of it. IT's a RL equivalent of walking about having a "uniform" on every street corner. It IS distateful, but yes I am in a minority.

  • the armed services ARE in the business of slaughtering people, family members. Yes they spend alot of time playing volleyball and skiing and marching around, BUT they don't had out bullets and bombs as personal comforters. They are designed to kill.

  • I have deliberately made no mention of "murder" at all..partly for the legalese mentioned last night.

  • I don't find having an army/navy/air force a benefit AT ALL, but that's another discussion. I do know having one is very expensive, which I help pay for, and would happily opt out of if at all possible. They do not protect my interests at all,and don't kid yourselves when you talk about these things. Same goes with the subsidies forces folk enjoy. You get paid. Pay up like everyone else. I don't see being in the army as "heroic". Just a momumentally stupid thing to do. That's my opinion. And these boards DO have the facility for opinions to be expressed.

I think that covers most things. There will be lots more, but not enough time. Thing is, it is difficult to not patronise when so many posters demonstrate an inability to read and comprehend that which is being written on this thread. It's almost wilful, and designed to make yourselves feel better.

ok. Offski. Sorry if I have offended other posters in my opinion, but that's your choice. AND, personal insults have been pretty much a one way street round here.

morning.

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hatrick · 23/06/2007 07:32

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Scootergrrrl · 23/06/2007 06:49

Patronising git
Unfortunately we don't all have time to spend gazing at ourselves in the mirror forumlating oh-so-clever ways to make people feel bad about themselves.
Some of us are getting on with the day to day reality of having a partner in Iraq or Afghanistan and tryig our best to care for our children while we're doing it. Now please go away and stop winding everyone up.

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Pan · 23/06/2007 01:14

The Piaf film was utterly brilliant. Highly recommended.......and no-one interrupted it by talking over it.......was with a French friend who brought a Piaf CD and she translated the songs for us in the car on the way home. They are ALL about luuurve in it's many guises.

Aaanyway, too late/early to sift through all of this rubbish. See that McDreamy has mastered cut-and-paste - obviously saves thinking about things. hey-ho.

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McDreamy · 22/06/2007 23:54

Whatever NN, as I said the Pan, you are entitled to your opinion whatever that might be. You see life is difficult enough without having to justify our existence to people like yourself.

All we want is the space to talk to each other and we are appreciative to mumsnet to give us our own space. I'll except you don't rush to the Forces Sweetheart section everytime you log on to mumsnet but tbh you won't be missed. If you don't like us or what we stand for please don't post.

Leave us to our chat, let us cope with our lives and support our partners and our families in our way. Thank you, goodnight.

Flamesparrow · 22/06/2007 23:50
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Nightynight · 22/06/2007 23:49

no, ll, I answered your points. you didnt produce anything that stood up to scrutiny - you said it wasnt worth talking to me because I questioned too many things.

McDreamy · 22/06/2007 23:46

Here here, goodnight and goodbye!

littlelapin · 22/06/2007 23:45

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Nightynight · 22/06/2007 23:43

well, I have seen a lot of name calling and insults, but little logic so far. maybe because there is little to show. am off to bed now.

Skribble · 22/06/2007 23:38

Out to you!

Nightynight · 22/06/2007 23:37

yes, it was pretty "unfortunate" when Baghdad was bombed, wasnt it.

Skribble · 22/06/2007 23:33

Perhaps consider what would have happened in Europe if it hadn't been for "Forces" over the years. Very narrow little veiws being aired here.

Can I take the chance to thank the forces personnel that do all kinds of jobs and put their own lives at risk for others carrying out all manner of duties that most people could never manage in very difficult circumstances. And I also appreciate how difficult it must be for their partners and families back home.

While I may not agree with all the polices and directions taken I can at least see that it is not the men and woman on the ground that get to pick and choose the battles or duties they enter into or become involved in. They have many humanitarian missions too where they are not sent out too kill but quite the opposite.

Nuf said, over and out to you.

Ulysees · 22/06/2007 23:28

I know I'm not a forces sweetheart but my bf is in Iraq working for the US army.
Do you think this thread should go on, it seems in poor taste IMO?

McDreamy · 22/06/2007 23:28

They don't go out wanting to kill the families that unfortunately get involved in war, that is never the intention.

Nightynight · 22/06/2007 23:26

those comparisons are completely invalid - a train driver reasonably expects never to crash a train. A soldier does not join up in the expectation of never killing anyone else.

McDreamy · 22/06/2007 23:17

In your dark, sad and cynical world NN perhaps doctors are paid to make the wrong diagnosis, train drivers are paid to crash their trains, chefs are paid to make people ill with bad food, policemen are paid to victimise black people? The list is endless and is of course nonsense. Terrible things happen NN, especially in war. But people set out with the best of intentions, in our case to protect people like you. Perhaps you should think carefully about that, about the society you live in, the democracy that you are part of and the people who are trying to keep you safe.

hatrick · 22/06/2007 22:45

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Nightynight · 22/06/2007 22:43

yes, I made that point in my second post, I think.

hatrick · 22/06/2007 22:43

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Nightynight · 22/06/2007 22:42

they would be insulted if you implied that they were not supporting their lo's in the armed forces though