Is Mumsnet HQ evil or not very bright.

We use cis all the time in science - eg a cell that releases a chemical that binds to itself, or to a different cell, which is trans

Agender is for boring people who like to pretend they're interesting.

Qu for those women who don't specifically identify as women /with female gender roles and object to being referred to as ciswomen: what would you think of the idea of being agender or genderqueer and female bodied?

I've never particularly felt like a woman or girl either, but it's not been a particularly pressing issue for me in the way it seems to be for trans people; and I'm also not a radical feminist, which I understand to be the prevailing opinion on the MN feminism boards, which I sometimes read but have rarely ever posted on. I go about looking like an ordinary [cis]woman and am not really bothered about it, but in contexts where it becomes relevant - mostly online or with LGBTQ friends - I consider myself genderqueer.

If you don't identify as a woman, you aren't, under this set of terminologies, cis, anyway. It's annoying to be called something you're not. But there are terms other than cis and trans for people who don't consider themselves to be either.
And there isn't a logical reason why using those from time to time (eg agender, genderqueer or similar) should get in the way of campaigning for rights & social standing of those who were born and who continue to be perceived as biologically female.

Ha ha Bean

Cock. Too many tabs, sorry, wrong thread

Thanks for taking the time to come on Yvette.

Thanks Grays. I thought it was going to be something more modern.

Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which is an antonym for the Latin-derived prefix trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of"

Why C.I.S.? Does it stand for or is it short for something?

Cis is a propaganda term used by some trans people and their allies to further the idea that everyone has an innate gender identity and that it is therefore possible to be born with the wrong one. Some people like to claim that it means "not trans" but it actually means that someone has a "gender identity that matches their sex". It's bullshit because most people only feel like their sex because they've got the requisite parts, not because they feel male or female inside.

Sorry I haven't rtft properly, what is a cis?

Hopefully MNHQ have sent him a PM and explained it all, if he likes those so much.

Apologies Tiggy. You didn't call anyone a Nazi that was another poster who posts regularly in trans threads you compared MN to a BNP website... so, Nazis then.

Pity, I've not seen that, however, you might be correct. You have the option to report if that offends you. In the same way as I have the option to report every single time I see Tiggy, you or anyone else using the word Cis to describe women. That's what it's there for.

Buffy - I wasn't trying to shame you, merely pointing out on which threads such statements had been made. Otherwise, there would've been cries of "I don't believe you!" and "where is your evidence!?".

Baking - "mutilated males" are the sort of things trans women are called on MN trans threads.

I don't believe Tiggy is a trans ally at all. I don't think he likes or knows much about trans people generally, but he is happy to use the problems they face as a stick to beat women because he is deeply misogynistic.

He does it because he's a MRA misogynist. And he's throwing his toys out of the pram because he thought women would be finally silenced by hiding behind fighting for trans rights to push his own agenda.

I will continue to fight for the right for women to feel safe in female spaces and for my right to be called a woman without a caveat.

I believe he's also not too good at logic...

Calling someone with DS a mong is distasteful and wrong, because it's a derogatory slur. Calling someone a man isn't. Ever. Good person or no.

My guess is because he enjoys bullying women.

Sorry Queen, you're quite right, he didn't deny sending it to her, he merely denied that it said what it said.

Oops.

I am speechless Queen. Why on earth would someone do that?

I have to admit I had never heard the term "cis woman" before and this is not a topic I am familiar with. But my gut instinct is that being called a cis woman makes me feel like I'm not a woman at all. Or even a 2nd class type of woman. And that simply by being a woman I have not had enough of a womanly experience to understand how a trans woman understands womanhood.. I don't like it.

He actually did admit to it on a thread.

Here's the post where WeirdCatLady first says that she's been PMed and here's the post where Tiggy admitted to it.