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Making Adoption board "opt in"

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JamHoneyMarmite · 23/07/2015 15:50

I know we've asked eleventy billion times before, but please? Please could we make the adoption board an "opt in" like the SN area? I would love it to be welcoming for adopters, prospective adopters, adoptees, birth families, and all open-minded curious folk - but I would also love it not to get bombarded by "I haven't adopted but you're doing it wrong" posts just because it shows up in Active convos.

So, I don't ask this with much hope after the other times people have asked, but pleeeeeease?

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 26/07/2015 01:20

There are I think 2 letterbox threads at the moment - the one in Adoption where Kew got rounded on (which was awful, poor Kew) and another one from the other day that i can't for the life of me find now - the OP was a birth mother wanting to write a very emotive letterbox letter. I think it was in Chat - can anyone help me find it? Flowers

Maryz · 25/07/2015 23:49

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adoptedonceuponatime · 25/07/2015 23:44

I'd vote for having an opt-in for a thread which is for adopters for support and sensitive issues which highlights its purpose, and then have the main adoption thread where people can debate issues, all subjects and discussions related to adoption to be welcome, and posters able to speak freely (subject to mumsnet rules), which is not opt in, please.

NB even with opt in, because many adopters who are Adoption section regulars post in AIBU it means people will follow you to the Adoption section.

I don't agree with the wannaBe's comments on the AIBU section generally - many people love it and love being able to get honest feedback from a large number of people, and feel able to sift the good advice from not so much.

Maryz · 25/07/2015 23:19

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Devora · 25/07/2015 22:16

Yes, opt-in sounds like a good idea.

wannaBe, I really hope MNHQ reads your excellent post.

Maryz · 25/07/2015 21:07

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TeenAndTween · 25/07/2015 19:41

One board (not enough threads to justify splitting), opt in. Thank you.

Maiyakat · 25/07/2015 18:40

I think the term 'opt in' is a bit confusing, as if it makes it a private board. If it just means it doesn't show in active convos (which is what I think it means!) then yes please!

Maryz · 25/07/2015 17:30

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tametortie · 25/07/2015 15:21

I'm very new to adopting but would prefer this. Then I know the info I'm getting is accurate rather than an opinion!

HappySunflower · 25/07/2015 13:39

Another yes from me.
I rarely post here nowadays, would certainly post more to an opt in board.

Has somebody alerted MNHQ to this thread?

Italiangreyhound · 25/07/2015 03:10

Yes, please.

StaceyAndTracey · 24/07/2015 22:30

Great post wannaBe

CloserToFiftyThanTwenty · 24/07/2015 21:33

I'd like it so that threads don't show up in Active Conversations please

I think the last time we had a chin scratch about the threads I suggested splitting up the topic into something covering the process of adoption (in Becoming a Parent) and wider issues in a different section, but it was overall felt that it was better to keep everything in a single place.

Personally I try to ignore the posters who wander onto a thread with (I hope) good intentions to talk about sleep settling or poor behaviour at school and post advice that is really unhelpful in the specific context of the poster's issue. But sometimes someone does have to point out the problem with what they have said, because there are far more lurkers, I think, than posters, and I would hate for them to take the duff advice on board which could actually exacerbate problems. I agree that things get a bit heated sometimes - apologies if I have inadvertently offended anyone with my defensiveness

dibly · 24/07/2015 20:11

Definitely opt in please. We get our concerns dismissed by more than enough professionals, birth parents and others in RL to need more of the same in a space I come to for support. We might be othered, but in a sense we are from the moment we sign up to adopt. And our children may not have special needs in a medical sense, but emotionally, yes they do.

GrimbleGrumble · 24/07/2015 19:48

Yes please to opt-in
Being part of an adopted family (whichever way round) seems to give other people in real life licence to ask all sorts of personal questions, provide unasked for opinions and generally treat you like a freakshow and it would be nice to not to have to deal with that in a support forum (and I don't mean people asking questions because they are interested in learning about adoption etc - just the nosy parker stuff)

wannaBe · 24/07/2015 19:08

I am not an adopter but I first started following adoption type threads when Kew adopted her ds and I followed her blog etc. I am also now in a relationship with someone who grew up in long term foster care ssince the age of seven and who is VI as a result of the experiences which brought him there. It's interesting that I have learned about things such as attachment disorder etc from adoptions way before I knew that I might be able to identify with them iyswim (not that I sought to but that I knew about them - hope that makes some sense).

I think tbh that the fact that any sub-section of the community feels that they need a section which is essentially for them and needs to be opt-in says a lot about the ethos of mn as a whole and should be a wake-up call for mn hq to look at the ethos which their site represents.

Mn sells itself as a place of support by parents for parents (or is that the other way around?) however when the top board is the ibu one, where people are essentially encouraged to voice their incredibly robust and more often than not offensive opinions while laying into someone who to them is just a username behind a keyboard it stands to reason that those posting styles will filter across to the rest of the boards because a lot of people simply don't look where they're posting.

And because the adoptions board is a relatively low traffic board compared to the likes of aibu, even one offensive poster is going to be noticed if they come on to a particularly sensitive thread.

Mn needs to start thinking about whether it really wants to continue to have the reputation for having the rudest posters on any parenting forum online. Many people come here because they claim they like that it's straight talking, however we have IMO crossed from straight talking into the realms of generally offensive, non empathetic and unmoving.

Yes there are supportive parts on mn, however we shouldn't be at a point where posters have to opt into the supportive parts in order to feel that they do actually have support and don't need to justify their position in life.

In my opinion the aibu board should be opt-in, like the sex topic. But it also needs to be toned down.

I do absolutely see why adopters want an opt-in, but IMO we need to start making the more offensive topics less accessible in order to reiterate what mn was started for in the first place - support.

slkk · 24/07/2015 18:27

Oh werejamming, I just ordered one!

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Kewcumber · 24/07/2015 16:08

I feel that the forum does not have as much to offer adopted people. thats probably true.

When I joined MN the adoption board didn't exist, it started soon after. It has grown organically driven mostly by adopters and prospective adopters who needed support or information or who had support or information to give.

We have adopters who were also themselves adopted but aside from that, and trying to be respectful of those sharing the adoption space, the only way to have something more to offer adoptees and birth parents is for some of them decide to post more regularly about issues they face. I see this happening at the moment and maybe an "adopted adults" section it would continue this momentum.

Kewcumber · 24/07/2015 15:49

And no, I don't seriously think that everyone should agree with me despite getting precious little of it at home

Kewcumber · 24/07/2015 15:46

Thank you willow there plenty of sense of humour failure going around just now so there's no need to apologise at all.

I didn't adopt domestically gabs and many of the adoption threads are very appropriate for me - I think probably nit living in the UK is a bigger difference than where you adopted from. Certainly DS's issues fit neatly into the same boxes as many other adopted children who came through the domestic system.

I don't think there' any suggestion that anyone shouldn't be able to opt in even those who just have an interest in adoption.

gabsdot45 · 24/07/2015 15:31

I feel that I should contribute to the debate as an adoptive parent.
from what I see the adoption board here on mumsnet is heavily populated by adoptive parents who have adopted domestically from the care system in the UK.
We did foreign adoptions and don't live in the UK so our experience has been a bit different but I still find it interesting to read the forum.
I feel that the forum does not have as much to offer adopted people.
However the adoption forum has a small population and so it would be counter productive to split the topic up into lots of different sub groups.
I agree with making it opt in. But for anyone with a vested interest, adoptive parents, children, birth parents, family of adopted people or birth parents, professionals etc

StaceyAndTracey · 24/07/2015 15:17

I think we are all a bit wound up after all the trolling

Not that you would guess it from my rant Blush