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What is going on with personal attacks/disablist language being left to stand?!

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 17/06/2015 19:20

I've just seen that the term 'fucking retarded' was left to stand, and the poster who reported it was told it shouldn't be deleted.

That really shocks me and I think it's a real shame coming from MNHQ.

I saw this because the person reporting started a thread asking whether the term were acceptable or not, and it's been deleted with no explanation except that it was 'against talk guidelines'.

I know it was a TAAT (as is this), but generally, threads asking reasonable questions are left to stand for a little, with an explanation from HQ on them. I'm hoping for a better result here in Site Stuff, as it seems to me it's a pretty important question.

Are you defending a policy of not deleting insults like 'fucking retarded'? Is it now unacceptable to question that sort of thing? And does it have to do with this ongoing issue with threads about feminism - which is where the term was used, and in the context of some very nasty (undeleted) attacks on feminist posters.

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SilverNightFairy · 18/06/2015 02:05

MistressMerryWeather(great name :)..sorry to hear this has happened to your darling boy too...breaks your heart and soul just a bit, doesn't it? I worry so much about how the adult world will receive my child ( now 18) if this is how it treats him as a youth..

MistressMerryWeather · 17/06/2015 23:55

X post.

Big massive hugs for you Silver.

MistressMerryWeather · 17/06/2015 23:54

Just saw your post Silver (doing ninety million things at once here) and my heart broke.

DS1 had a similar situation recently but was called a "Psycho".

All I can say is we (and everyone who has been there) deserve a medal for restraint. Because fuckfaces like that deserve a kick in the teeth at the very least.

SilverNightFairy · 17/06/2015 23:52

You made me cry. I'm very sensitive today. Thank you for being so kind
Flowers

Original poster
JeanneDeMontbaston · 17/06/2015 23:50

Well, I think the world would be a better place if more of us would make faces and circle when we're excited. Might take some people's minds off being rude!

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SilverNightFairy · 17/06/2015 23:45

Thanks Jeanne, he was so happy that day. He has learned to control his facial grimaces but he still circles when he is very excited. I was heartbroken. He heard but pretended he hadn't.

Samcro · 17/06/2015 23:02

this has been going on for years, disablist stuff i soften allowed to stand, and now days a message from mn hq will just be a link to their "campaign"
they have promised over the years to delete disblist posts and to not expect the sn community to educate.

they do not stand by this

MistressMerryWeather · 17/06/2015 22:59

You got banned Fairy? Shock That's ridiculous.

You are hardly a hostile poster!

I agree the whole post should have been deleted, I am on that thread and completely missed it.

It's either wrong to say that or it's not. Editing shouldn't be an option.

Samcro · 17/06/2015 22:50

i reported some thing disablist earlier.
its ok mn hq linked to the shitty this is my child campaign,,,,,
yep.that works.. not, disablist ""jokey" stuff left

usualsuspect333 · 17/06/2015 22:47

random 'the' in that post (it's late)

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 17/06/2015 22:47

Yes, but I've had perfectly sensible decisions out of MNHQ until a lot later!

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usualsuspect333 · 17/06/2015 22:46

No, I've seen them edit that word or similar words from posts. They usually say the rest of the post made a good point so they will let the it stand.

YonicScrewdriver · 17/06/2015 22:44

Jeanne, it was 1920 when you started it - I suspect Justine et al had gone home.

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 17/06/2015 22:44

That is horrible, silver. Sad

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SilverNightFairy · 17/06/2015 22:43

So hard as a parent of a disabled child to see those words used with such casual abandon. Hard, as my son with AS, was once called a fucking retard on public transport when he was hand circling out of excitement.

MaggieJoyBlunt · 17/06/2015 22:43

How odd.

hazeyjane · 17/06/2015 22:41

sorry - crossposted with jeanne!

hazeyjane · 17/06/2015 22:41

But was that with offensive language, Usual, or edited posts because of identifying information (which I have seen)?

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 17/06/2015 22:40

I know they often don't respond that this time of night, but I started the thread a few hours ago.

I've seen them edit posts before, but it has been in the cases already mentioned - when someone accidentally uses a real name, or something like that.

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usualsuspect333 · 17/06/2015 22:36

They often don't respond at this time of the night.

I agree that the whole post should have been deleted, but I've seen MNHQ edit posts before.

YonicScrewdriver · 17/06/2015 22:36

I expect there will be a Senior Response in the morning.

purdiepie · 17/06/2015 22:34

You were banned for calling someone smug??! So that is seen as a personal attack? Shock

purdiepie · 17/06/2015 22:33

What happens if MNHQ don't respond to this thread? The silence is deafening.

TheFairyCaravan · 17/06/2015 22:32

Christ! And to think I got banned for a week for calling someone smug!

I have never seen a personal attack edited out. It's beyond weird.

Heckler · 17/06/2015 22:25

The editing thing is weird to me too.

I remember when it was all fields round here, and I realise they now can do more sophisticated stuff (technical term) but letting an offensive post stand by editing a bit out is ... I don't know?

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