Why WASN'T this thread deleted?

The thread was a classic example of rape myth bingo - posted by someone whose views are probably similar to which then got very nasty - in a blatantly misogynistic way.

Obv, the thread should have gone early evening, I think HQ dropped the ball here. It was an obvious goader - I think the Ched Evans case has brought them over here.

I do now understand why posters on the FWR board are wary of new posters if this is what they are subjected to.

Quite. This is what we subjected to on a fairly regular basis. Then what happens is the posts/threads are deleted, and nobody quite believes us - FWR posters are called nasty and unwelcoming. It can be rather galling.

Good point well made twice, balls

Well quite, Balls.

And if it was real, it needed to go from a legal standpoint.

I reported it twice and was shocked that MNHQ commented rather than delete the thread.

Did MNHQ really believe a genuine person accused of rape would post on the feminist section of a mother's parenting website? It seems their trolldar isn't working.

I reported it twice and was shocked that MNHQ commented rather than delete the thread.

Did MNHQ really believe a genuine person accused of rape would post on the feminist section of a mother's parenting website? It seems their trolldar isn't working.

It IS gone now.

And the OP was advised about 3 posts in that he should not be posting if there's an ongoing legal case.

He did not care because it was not real

Even if you go from the unlikely stance it is true I think it needs to go from a legal point of view, so in glad it's going.

I have nothing but admiration for all the posters who wrote considered responses - truly
If I had not been asleep I'd've likely suffered apoplexy.
Although I am quite good at walking away from nasty threads, but no way would I have been able to repeatedly make reasoned points.

Until it turned nasty it was actually a good thread imo - obviously goady op and sock puppet idiot aside - several posters give excellent responses, explained their viewpoints articulately and illustrated in no uncertain terms the poster was a nobber. In some ways it's no bad thing for people to express themselves like that. Explain things that seem blatantly obvious to us but, clearly, aren't to others. The fact is that there is a base level of education missing. Many of the posts on that thread addressed that well. Yes it was goady and crap but that doesn't mean it can't be useful overall. It's a shame it wasn't locked much earlier though as it decended into nastiness when the sp realised they weren't getting enough effect.

I read the thread in the early hours of this morning and cannot understand why it was allowed to stand, it was awful.

I do now understand why posters on the FWR board are wary of new posters if this is what they are subjected to.

Agree with Stella and Pacific - I only posted on the thread once, but it seemed to grow legs again late last night.

Stella, I agree with your analysis of the situation - the sock puppet did not help; the thread had actually fallen in to a coma before they turned up.

I'd like to know the answer to this question too - I reported early on, got a reply along the lines of 'yes, we are aware and will be watching closely'.

It was a horrid thread on so many levels.

From what I remember of the thread (I saw it in its first few posts, then again this morning), it was a fairly obvious example of 'do not feed trolls'

If the poster was for real, then the actual question was answered on page 1. If not, then any reply is just feeding it, and demonstrating that MN is a place which offers food and attention to such posters.

I know that 'don't feed the trolls' has been debated before here, and IIRC the consensus was that it was unreasonable to expect that approach to become the norm (despite examples of effectiveness) as you can't expect people to hold back from posting. Is that still how people see it?

One of the things I reported it for this morning was that there was a post on the thread that said the poster had recognised the situation as applying to someone they knew, who was from where the OP said he was from, and they were printing the thread out to take it to the person they knew and were going to try to find out who the OP was.

That worried me - quite apart from the rest of the thread - and I reported for that reason early this morning.

X-posts

Iona just posted to say it's being deleted

IonaMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 16-Nov-14 09:36:41
Morning folks. We're going to be deleting this thread in a moment. Regardless of whether or not the OP was genuine, it seems to have become very unpleasant and isn't adding anything to the debate, to the site or to the world in general.

I don't think that's a very helpful comment, tbh. Sorry Iona.

MNHQ have just posted to say they are deleting it.

It should have gone last night though. Why didn't it I wonder?

Bet this thread gets deleted faster

So you have a 24yr old male accused of rape (describing a Ched Evans scenario of rape) and telling posters

I know what a douche bag is, sounds like you haven't douched for a long time, you must have a lot of sand in your vagina to make you this angry

That's aside of the fact the whole thread is goady