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Fight clubs on mumsnet

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TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 30/08/2014 12:34

Is it just me or has there been a significant shift in the ethos of this site where 'fight clubs' are now tolerated wherever they spring up? There is a real nasty undercurrent running through a few parts of this site & it's just unpleasant to read through.

Are the mods all barricading themselves in bunkers or something, hoping it'll all blow over? Hmm

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RebeccaMumsnet · 02/09/2014 16:17

Hi all,

Apologies for taking a while to get to the bottom of all of this.

We are removing one of the threads now. We'd like MN to be an excellent place for parents from all walks of life to come and chat about anything and everything.

We are totally aware that there will be disagreements along the way and that is all a part of it but we hope that people can be civil and respectful of others, sometimes very different, views and not feel the need to start threads to discuss them but rather (respectfully) have it out on the original thread.

We like to keep deletions to a minimum as we are all grown-ups here but we will step in and remove threads and posts that break the guidelines.

We do think that SP have been through the mill of late but we hope that the issues raised have now been aired and everyone can move on. Whether that's together or in groups, either is fine as long as people are respectful of each other.

Please do report anything to us that you think we need to see or that crosses the line and we will take a look.

FlossyMoo · 01/09/2014 20:38

I fucked up too.

ArsenicyOldFace · 01/09/2014 20:34

Perhaps you could point it out to me then Zoe? Because that just sounds like meaningless piffle quite honestly.

Anyone who reads the thread can (I hope) see that the intent was to prevent a more positive view of stepfamilies being shouted down.

That seems a reasonable purpose to me.

I am fully prepared to take the justified criticism on the chin because to an extent we fucked up.

But your characterisation is a distortion.

ZoeWannaBaker · 01/09/2014 20:12

You are very blinkered Arsenicy, and your one track agenda is showing by the way.

ArsenicyOldFace · 01/09/2014 17:46

That's an interesting summary Zoe, if a bit one-sided.

It is quite right to say that a line has been unwittingly crossed, and I apologise for that.

However, i'd invite anyone reading your summary of thread in question to look for themselves.

And at the one on which you accused me of goadiness.

And at threads which inspired the quiche.

Pontipine's description seems accurate to me.

ZoeWannaBaker · 01/09/2014 08:26

Well this is all very enlightening.

I unwittingly wandered in to a discussion the other day, I had read the thread but not the weeks of build up to it, I wasn't aware of that why would I be?

I thought the OP was becoming a bit goady and said so and was immediately jumped upon by a number of other posters, I then discovered later what had gone on before. So I apologised thinking I had come late into it and thought I was seeing something else.

I now find from that thread that I was quite right to see goading, full of comments about things kicking off, see if anyone's 'biting', accusations of sockpuppeting, where is so and so, anyone reporting that, nice tag team work and such. It's all running along side the posting on other threads as it happens.

and this little gem about me Let me guess what kind of posting history I would find if I could be arsed to search Zoe grin I'll be taking back my apology by the way.

No, it's not nice to be talked about so blatantly, and I'm disgusted it's been allowed to run, regardless of the history leading to it.

IPityThePontipines · 31/08/2014 23:32

SP was a hideous, festering pit of child-hatred. It did need sorting out and I'm really pleased that people are doing so.

I used to feel frightened for some of the SC under discussion, because step mothers were always told how right and justified they were, with young girls being called "mini-wives" and other such nastiness. I'm very glad that's being countered.

RandallFloyd · 31/08/2014 18:01

I meant the film, honest!

AmyMumsnet · 31/08/2014 17:47

@RandallFloyd

Don't worry, Amy, you're missing nothing. It's over-hyped rubbish. I was sorely disappointed.

I thought you were talking about the threads Blush.

We feel that some of the threads being discussed here are, in amongst some of the unkind comments, providing a valuable space for support. For that reason, we're inclined to let them stand, but we will take a close look at them and bear in mind your concerns.

Skina · 31/08/2014 17:42

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Can't they form a FB group to bitch on?

Roaring at this Grin

BeerTricksPotter · 31/08/2014 16:53

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Mintyy · 31/08/2014 16:53
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everydayvalue · 31/08/2014 16:49

Can't they form a FB group to bitch on?

everydayvalue · 31/08/2014 16:47

I'm amazed that thread in OTBT has been allowed to stay.

It would not have been allowed in the olden days.

Mintyy · 31/08/2014 16:45

You cannot seriously be arguing that it's ok for threads where a group of posters are sniping/griping/bitching about another group of posters to stand? And its ok because the bitching goes both ways? That's completely nuts!

I'm amazed if its being left to stay ... surely hq have to do something about it? Down with this sort of thing!

Maryz · 31/08/2014 16:38

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HotPinkWeaselWearingLederhosen · 31/08/2014 16:38

This thread hasn't helped because the op has been quite rude to perfectly reasonable posts.

As I'm questioning her interpretation on here, I'm certainly questioning her take on what she says have happened else where.

MNHQ have said twice they are dealing with it.

Twice to report it.

What more does the op want. If they've acknowledged the reports and left posts than the op has to deal with that.

RandallFloyd · 31/08/2014 16:37

Don't worry, Amy, you're missing nothing. It's over-hyped rubbish. I was sorely disappointed.

As regards the other stuff, it seems there is a whole world of stuff I know nothing about so I'll quietly back away I think.

NickiFury · 31/08/2014 16:37

I'm not trying to frame it anyway, just putting the facts out there, which is something you failed to do in your OP and just making it clear that the thread in OTBT is not the only thread running along these lines.

Perhaps if posters made it their business to address the viciousness, abusive attitudes and name calling towards children so often found on the step parenting board then these battle lines would never have been drawn. Take a look over the people, you may find yourself quite surprised what is considered acceptable over there and how anyone who even gently questions the status quo has been attacked and chased out by a small cohort of individuals who have a real poisonous presence there.

I'm not posting here anymore, if you're desperate to find me to carry on the debate then you know where I am Wink

Maryz · 31/08/2014 16:35

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SugarSkully · 31/08/2014 16:31

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NickiFury · 31/08/2014 16:31

I'm addressing the OP saying that I "retreat" to my thread to bitch. This is untrue, anything I have to say is said openly and is available for anyone to read as evidenced by my posting on this thread and many others. There is nothing on that thread that I have not openly said to the posters in question. I wish I could say the same about the things that have been said about me. It is also worth noting that I have only rarely been deleted while others who have attacked me have numerous deletions.

I think the OP should have contacted MN privately to discuss her issues with the threads and I think her motives for starting this thread are questionable. Hence my referring to her thread as whiny, maybe it isn't very nice but then nearly everything about this ongoing debate isn't very nice and that's why tensions are running so high.

TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 31/08/2014 16:23

Well if that's the case, why ask MNHQ on your other thread to go onto the bingo thread & chastise those posting there about you? If you feel that's warranted, why claim here you don't mind/won't report to highlight how whingey you think I am?

Which ever way you try & frame this Nicky, the overall picture is that people are posting unpleasant digs about you/other posters, and you/other posters are doing the same. Ad infinitum.

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AmyMumsnet · 31/08/2014 16:12

Hi everyone,

Wish I'd watched Fight Club so I could make a humourous entrance.

We think we've got a handle on which 'Fight Club' is being referenced on this thread, and we gave everyone involved a bit of a nudge a few weeks ago to try and make certain boards a more friendly place.

If you think it hasn't worked, please drop us a line, or even better, report a post to show us what we've missed.

Mumsnet is a blardy big place and we can't always see everything being posted all of the time (even if we pretend otherwise).

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