Official Mumsnet mobile thread part 3

Meant I use dolphin. Not can I use.

Can I use dolphin browser on my phone. I like it and don't want to change it.

But in the bottom left corner is a dolphin button. I can't click on the active convos tab in the bottom corner as the phone just thinks I'm pressing the dolphin button. Drives me nuts and now I can't MN on my phone.

Needasilverlining of course not dismissing your or anyone's concerns which is why I opened by saying I sympathise. I think I read on another thread that they did a load of testing but testing is never going to catch every [minority] viewpoint is it?

You might think it was ill thought out but other people like it. You're right, that does make you sound rather grouchy to me!

Out of interest, where have MNHQ replied on this particular thread to someone who has complained about an accessibility issue (by which I mean ones like your own whereby you say the scrolling makes you feel unwell) by saying anything remotely like "it's fine you will get used to it"? That might have been the lighthearted response to the initial general outcry on day 1 but that was ages ago. Perhaps it's time to move on?

What I'd love to know from MNHQ is if the number of people using mobile has varied since the changes?

And when I say that, of course I mean that this is not a medical need. Would have spotted that did the nobbing useless preview function work...

Trooblood, I'm not trying to trump specific accessibility needs, of course not. I'm assuming you aren't entirely dismissing my concerns because of that?

I'm saying that I think proper user testing would have found something that (a) worked properly and (b) we could all use. Or proper customisation, or something.

And I don't want a new phone to read one site that worked perfectly fine until an ill thought out remake.

I did mean blithe, thank you. Overall I've felt the tone has been 'oops! It's fine, you'll get used to it' for anything that's not an easily fixable glitch. Generally just incredibly planned and communicated. If I sound grouchy it's because I love Mn and I miss it.

Now no OP link and no missing posts.

FWIW I find the quoted text too close together, so I think the "half character height" rule works well for my device at least.

HTC Desire C, Android 4.0.3, WebKit 5.

needsasilverlining, I sympathise with you if you have specific accessibility needs which means you're in the unfortunate minority of us that need something really different from everyone else. If you suffer because of scrolling perhaps you should get a phone with a bigger screen? You said the old site wasn't a problem but it really was for some of us and it's been a huge improvement.

Long threads are always going to need a lot of scrolling. Optimal line height to ensure text readability is (at least) half the character height. I would guess not by chance here it is actually half so sounds like they followed the guidelines. If they reduced it it would not follow the guidelines and presumably be siginifcantly worse for a lot of people. Ditto making the font smaller.

BTW not sure blithely acutally means what you think it means - I don't think anybody can reasonably accuse MNHQ of being lighthearted or lacking concern about these issues.

Sorry meant to add, if that line spacing has been deemed acceptable for readability in quotes, surely must be ok for all text?

Jessica can't you just use the quote line spacing for all text? It would be a start.

Ok, my latest post to say my latest post is not appearing, has itself not appeared!

I'm on iPhone 4, latest iOS (7.1.2?)
I just posted a long message on a thread which appeared to work. But came back a bit later to see if any responses and my post was missing! If I went to the 'threads I'm on button', I could see the start of my post, but when I clicked through to the thread, it wasn't there. Tried refreshing a few times and checked it hadn't moved on to a new page then gave up and wrote a short post saying how annoying it was that my long post had disappeared.... - only to discover that now I can see the long post... So I was about to write another post to say, "oh it's come back", when I realised the one saying "Gah!!! Post disappeared" is now missing!

(Again I can see it if I click on the 'I'm on' button but when I link through to the actual thread it's not there. )

Can't see the latest post again. It was fixed last night but is broken again

That works, thanks. But it's a completely different site from what links in the main menu on the mobile site!

Ah no it's working now. Maybe I tried it while Bruno was doing an update.

I am on laptop now but will kick phone and see what happens...

In the meantime there's yesterday's screenshot (have to upload to laptop to convert from .png to .jpg - this would all be much easier if we could upload .png directly!!)

It's not the ads, it's the horrible spacing and resulting constant scrolling. But you've decided it works so obviously those of us who find it makes us queasy will have to stuck it up.

In my case, after seven years of damn near daily use, that means cutting down by more than 90 per cent. So thanks and all, but my MN warm fuzzies are at an all time low at the moment. A site I really love has been rendered unusable and the perpetrators are still trilling blithely about how great it is!