Official Mumsnet mobile thread numéro deux

Thank you for adding the sticky markers on the chat threads!

It's shaping up really nicely, and I'm getting used to the new format and starting to like it. Really appreciate the hard work that must be going into dealing with flagged issues so quickly.

Apparently

Can I post?

Also, if I access a thread via TIO I it loads the entire thread rather than paginating it. I don't have this issue accessing threads via Active

Nexus 7
Android 4.4.4
Chrome

Thanks for the TIO change but now I can only access a TIO through pressing a recent post, so I can't press the title and go to my bookmark (having only just yesterday enabled bookmarks). On old mobile site from TIO you could either go to a topic, go to a thread, or go to a recent post.

I have this issue too...

On a positive, it seems to be working a lot better on my iPod Touch. And great to have last few posts on TIO.
There's still a bit of navigation to get used to, but I think it will be ok.

But haven't tried long threads...
And the blue thingy is still stuck and over the posts.

nicest on mine it doesn't float - it's permanently above the thread, pegged to the toolbar

'float' was a quote from ItsAllGoingToBeFine, nickelbabe - you're right, it is tethered. but it is onscreen all the time, which means that if it's one of the switchy ones like Peugeot, it must be using some battery?

Ooooo, I have recent posts back and my threads actually go into hiding when I want them too :) Much more tolerable. Still the background/fonting annoyance though.

MHHQ; not sure if it's just my phone (Samsung S3 Mini, latest antroid & chrome) but when I'm viewing TIO and seeing the recent post, punctuation such as; apostrophes are showing as "a""

Agh, just lost my reply by clicking on a photo I was uploading. Took me back to the top of the screen and deleted everything I had typed and uploaded.

I'm on iPhone 4S, iOS7, Safari. If I click to view a picture it takes forever to load and freezes Safari so I can't get out of it when I lose patience waiting then when it finally appears in the floaty box it is barely any bigger than the thumbnail. But when I zoom, the floaty box disappears to the right hand corner of the screen and keeps moving as I follow it.

nicest on mine it doesn't float - it's permanently above the thread, pegged to the toolbar.

Rowan, perhaps for the sake of your users' eyes, heads and blood pressure mght it not be an idea to take the new mobile site off line to fix all the glitches and design faults and reinstate the old mobile site whilst you are doing this.

Clearly, you are determined that we will be having the new site, but the above option may allow users to suggest more functions that need tweaking prior to it becoming permanent.

I've been exploring

I looooooove the customize. thank you

I loooooooove that you've returned last few posts to tio (except the fact that when I clicked said last post on this thread, it took me to a post that was from 11 o'clock isg.
I know that's not a bookmark because I don't use bookmarks (so am very grateful that the facility is now hidden in the ellipses so I don't click on it by accident)

The only difference now is the ad at the top now floats at the top of the screen

doesn't being always on-screen mean that it's always live & doing something, where it wasn't before?

Rowan, thanks.

Various points. HTC 28 months old, I think. Do mobiles have equivalents to dog years?

If I press TIO, it takes me sometimes to the normal TIO, with all the TsIO, sometimes to the individual thread that has been most recently updated. Bizarre.

Like Mardy I want a specific elipse with TIO and one with Active. ( as we used to have). I don't want to have to go into the currently empty middle elipse, scroll down and find TIO. Ditto for active. So I'd really like you to magic that for me, or else give me easy instructions to customize my screen for me to do it for myself. And wave farewell to the blue bar.

Is that making sense?

But as far as I remember MN has always had these ads on the mobile site, a banner one at the top, and a big one at the very bottom of the page. The only difference now is the ad at the top now floats at the top of the screen. And it has always had the social media buttons.

So I don't see how the new version would be calling any more from other sites than the old version.

I think the battery usage thing is either imagination, or due to the increased amount of white.

again with adverts c if it had a thick blue bar under the advert instead of a very fibe blue bar, it would be more obvious that it was separate and wouldn't move.
at the moment, the fact that everything syddenly disappears when it's obviously not the top of the page is very disorientating.

This image demonstrates nicely how much more text can be squeezed in using the MNHQ quoting font/spacing than with the normal posting version

I currently have a text only advert tat keeps changing text every couple of seconds.

you have to have a rule that all adverts on the static bar do not have any movement in them

Rowan, you still haven't really and truly said why or what prompted the decision to change the mobile site. In an earlier post you said it was to update, modernise and make it look slicker. If that's really the case, then it's an abject failure. The new site does not look more modern, in fact it looks messy and cluttered. The old site looked cleaner, clearer and more professional.

The functionality issues with the new site are terrible, you are making extra work for your users - why? Why are users having to scrabble around customising and bookmarking in order to get the site to work at a fraction of the functionality the old site did? The old site had one press for most of the things people access, the new site doesn't. So, the new site is not easier or quicker, so what's the point?

Distinguishing between threads in active or on any of the topics is not easy, they all merge into one, it's too crowded with the stupid circles with numbers in them.

Reading threads, again, it is awful, the lack of differentiation between posters, posts, the OP not being at the top of each page, etc., means it all merges into one homogeneous mass. Normally I spend many a late night hour whiling away the insomnia by reading MN, last night after 20 minutes I was starting to get a headache, and was losing interest, it was too much like hard work so I switched it off. I will use the desktop site on my old creaky laptop but doubt I will bother with the mobile site much anymore.

I agree there were some minor design and functionality issues that could have been improved on the old mobile site, but you have thrown the baby out with the bathwater with the new design. Most of the people complaining about the new site seem to have the latest modern phones, tablets and browsers and yet they all say the old site worked better on them so who, or what devices were these changes actually done for?

This is the techie post I mentioned - it was posted by Sherborne (I thought I'd copied in the header but apparently not)

The question of ads and battery usage is interesting. Looking at the src, they're delivered by google ad's, which in turn are delivering ad's from RadiumOne. Looking at one of the URLs, it has a Lat and Lng, indicating my position (one of the ad's is for a bus company in my area, so they're obviously location targeted advertising, even if just at a course grained level). This in itself would use greater battery than just presenting a standard ad image. Then making it animate would also increase battery usage.

Looking at the page loading in a mobile browser, there were 206 requests to the server. Each one of those is transmitting data from the browser to the site and back again. Each one of those requests consumes battery. Some of those requests are to MN itself, while a good number are directly to tracking and advertising sites.

One of the tenet's of mobile web design is to reduce as far as possible the number of requests back and forth to the server so as to reduce radio usage, processing and thus battery consumption.

Some of those could easily be solved my MN (ie, combining the individual smiley images into a single image, for example), but there are so many scripts loading from other sites that no wander it's going slow. Eg:

rubiconproject.com
google-analytics.com
adnxs.com
cloudfront.com
facebook.com
googlestndication.com
pintrest.com
gwallet.com
voicefive.com
doubleclick.com
... and more...!

and so on.... each of these loading things from the web. Each of these use more battery.

Sherborne Fri 22-Aug-14 13:32:49
(Of course, Ad's have to be here, but surely there is a balance to be struck?)