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Scottish Referendum debate - watch with Mumsnet

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KatieMumsnet · 05/08/2014 11:30

So tonight sees the first TV debate of the Scottish Referendum with First Minister and key advocate of the pro- yes campaign, Alex Salmond and Alistair Darling, leader of the pro-UK Better Together campaign coming together for a head to head debate for the first time.

You can watch live from 8pm on STV and if you're south of the border can tune in via the STV player.

Fancy watching along with us? What are you hoping to see from tonight's debate? What are your thoughts on the campaigns so far?

If you've decided which way to vote, why? And if not, what will help you decide?

Do feel free to share these, and any more thoughts you have

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StatisticallyChallenged · 05/08/2014 22:08

It was pretty grim tbh. Currency etc are important for a lot of people - there are undeniably some people who are fundamentally pro independence almost regardless, just like there are some fundamental nos. But there are a heck of a lot more people who need to know the answers to these questions, and refusing to say what the alternative is doesn't help anyone.

WildThong · 05/08/2014 22:05

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Scottish Referendum debate - watch with Mumsnet
OOAOML · 05/08/2014 22:04

Format of the debate was poor, not well run at all. Both looked nervous, both had points they stumbled and points they made well. Not sure how defining an event it was, although it could have been much better organised. The presenter didn't control it well, and it was very fragmented with ad breaks and cuts to the "spin room".

LadyCordeliaFlyte · 05/08/2014 22:04

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Olddear · 05/08/2014 22:04

Yes, of course a currency union is desirable! That doesn't mean it'll happen. And how will we always get the government we want if we get independence?? Bet if I voted Tory I wouldn't get it! We can't all fet the government we want!!

SirChenjin · 05/08/2014 22:03

And conversely the Yes campaign is full of rhetoric, contradictions and all-out lies...

Those of us on this side of the fence will never convince you otherwise, and likewise you'll never convince us to the contrary - which is why this 'debate' is on the fast train to Dullsville

StatisticallyChallenged · 05/08/2014 22:02

She got very swiftly ignored...

WildThong · 05/08/2014 22:01

Audience woman was a diddy. She is not alone in that audience.

SirChenjin · 05/08/2014 21:59

Wow - do you have a crystal ball Numanoid? Please do tell me what the lottery numbers are going to be this week.

What the jeff was Audience Woman on about?! I bet they moved swiftly on...Grin

Numanoid · 05/08/2014 21:59

Fair enough, Sleepy. But if you look at the BT rhetoric, it is full of contradictions and all-out lies.
Westminster will ruin this country, more so than they have already. :( Bah, I'm just sick of being viewed as a dumping ground for Trident and a source of income for the rest of the UK.

Areallthegoodnamestaken · 05/08/2014 21:58

The Gaelic language obsession takes us backwards, rather than forwards IMO - why are we trying to shut ourselves out of the modern world?

squoosh · 05/08/2014 21:57

It was an audience member, she thought too much money was being spent on pensions when it could be spent on gaelic instead.

They moved swiftly on................ Grin

Numanoid · 05/08/2014 21:56

I thought the audience member who said Salmonds performance so far was a poor indication of things to come made a very valid point.

How, given that an independent Scotland wouldn't be run by him or the SNP?

SirChenjin · 05/08/2014 21:55

Missed that bit...what were they saying about gaelic? (which is a colossal waste of public money imo)

WildThong · 05/08/2014 21:54

Offs. We already waste far too much money on Gaelic and Scots language qualifications.

squoosh · 05/08/2014 21:54

I thought the gaelic language v pensions q was crackers.

SirChenjin · 05/08/2014 21:51

Watched a bit of it - we're still none the wiser on the important issues, the same old lines were trotted out. Salmond is like his namesake isn't he - a slippery wee fish.

If Yes isn't about Salmond when can we look forward to seeing the back of him? 'Cos he's been hanging around like a bad smell as long as I can remember...

Sleepyfergus · 05/08/2014 21:49

I'm not basing my vote purely on tonight. Believe me, Ive read a lot and endured lots of opinions. I wanted tonight to solidify my own thoughts and simply put, the Yes campaign does not have the answers. Alex Salmond is a twat mind you and doesn't help that he's fronting it all, not making the best use of this debate and acting like a petulant school boy.

Not saying Alistair Darling is all that, but I felt tonight, he had the answers and challenged Salmond on real and v important issues.

Crutchlow35 · 05/08/2014 21:48

Loading of mn is driving me crackers tonight. Did that young girl just ask why the government are spending money on pensions and not Gaelic language?

squoosh · 05/08/2014 21:48

Well that was an amusing diversion but I don't think too many people will be swayed by that.

LadyCordeliaFlyte · 05/08/2014 21:48

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Numanoid · 05/08/2014 21:47

StatisticallyChallenged It was reported on The Telegraph that they were, they published exerts. Although Telegraph is very biased too.

weatherall Flowers YES!! Grin

weatherall · 05/08/2014 21:45

Yes I couldn't post either.

Yes isn't about salmond.

Kids born after 2016 might not even recognise the name!

Yes is a very broad campaign. It isn't a political party.

StatisticallyChallenged · 05/08/2014 21:44

Don't know about the press room but they were both doing it on twitter.

LadyCordelieFlyte - you probably just thought it was freezing because you kept hearing the same thing over and over again Wink

Numanoid · 05/08/2014 21:43

Regardless of the performance, Darling and Bitter Together will never sit right with me. There's a lot of underhand tactics going on here, such as BT texting their "interpretations" of the debate to the press room.