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PAY your Mumsnet subs...so we can stop this madness...

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katierocket · 23/08/2005 22:39

Last bit said it a Scarlett O'Hara type of way. But seriously people, come on cough up, it 'aint much and what would we do without it.....

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edam · 24/08/2005 23:56

Maybe you and I could set up together MI, and con some venture capitalists into launching us on the stockmarket, cash in our shares before the crash and drive off into the sunset yelling 'so long, suckers' at the Revenue?
Or maybe I've been up way too long...

katierocket · 24/08/2005 17:17

what's the benefit MI? (I'm freelancer like you but just self employed at the mo)

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motherinferior · 24/08/2005 17:05

Make sense to be a limited company. I'm one - and Edam, you should look into it too.

katierocket · 24/08/2005 17:03

I apologise profusely if the thread title gives a misleading impression - jeez. FWIW, I don't care if they are limited company and if they make a bit money for running Mumsnet. Good on them.

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Ladymuck · 24/08/2005 16:50

Then I wish that you had chosen a different thread title. It implies otherwise.

katierocket · 24/08/2005 16:46

your original posts to me Ladymuck, especially the "why you are asking people to subscribe?" (with original bold), just sounds so chippy (and for the record I wasn't, just reminding those who may want to that it might help. I'm not so stupid or naive to think that only subs can pay for a site like this - you patronise me to suggest so quite frankly.

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edam · 24/08/2005 16:36

LM, I had no idea MN was a limited company. Never given it a thought before today.

ks · 24/08/2005 16:21

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SoupDragon · 24/08/2005 16:19

There is "always" one member of MN towers on duty to step in when needed (eg at a mod's request or when posters request their attention)

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QueenOfQuotes · 24/08/2005 16:15

"I think it's the policing of the site that takes time "

Unpaid mods do that.

But running a website takes a lot of time, - I know we do it with our business one and only get tiny number of hits per days - but the "behind the scenes" stuff that goes on is incredible - and that's with no-one paying to advertise on our website, no salary to pay ourself and without 10,000 memebers!!!

milward · 24/08/2005 15:57

I always click on the adverts - helps income keep coming in from them. Wont click on formula ad though.

Ladymuck · 24/08/2005 15:55

But the moderators are unpaid...

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Heathcliffscathy · 24/08/2005 15:13

olive am i being a loon (v possible)? full moon was a few days ago ackcherly..

QueenOfQuotes · 24/08/2005 15:12

I assume the staff at MN HQ's have bills to pay like the rest of us (don't they !).

oliveoil · 24/08/2005 15:11

Is it a full moon?

Heathcliffscathy · 24/08/2005 15:10

of course what is reasonable goes hand in hand with what do i earn and of course the money will in part go on salaries????? what is wrong with that?

Ladymuck · 24/08/2005 15:09

Edam, yes you can pay to see them for £1 from the Companies house site. If you are looking to understand them, then, amongst other things, you should look at the list of costs on the last page and consider where the money goes (eg there are salaries and someone gets paid for using part of their home as an office). The IT costs of hosting the site are surprisingly small.

Please note that I am not saying that the owners make excessive profits from the company! But I am curious as to what subscribers would expect to see? And I suspect the idea as to "what is reasonable" will often go hand in hand with "what do I earn".

Heathcliffscathy · 24/08/2005 15:05

ladymuck, your post does smack of some kind envy of mn's success? it's twisted logic whereby if mn is making money you shouldn't subscribe....you seem to be berating the people that run it and your posts on this thread are out of proportionately emotive and quite honestly pretty weird? has this touched some kind of raw nerve for you?

i know that mn run on a tight budget as justine and rachel say as much when the subject comes up (for eg there was a recent one about clicking on a princess doll thing on the homepage wasn't there.)

i don't know how you can in all conscience consider frequently using but not subscribing if you can afford to...

snafu · 24/08/2005 15:02

'have fewer ads', ladymuck

Sorry

lemonice · 24/08/2005 14:59

all limited companies have to file thier accounts at companies house and are available for anyone to see, check their website (you have to pay a small sum to download)

edam · 24/08/2005 14:53

Are the accounts publicly available? Just being nosy...

Ladymuck · 24/08/2005 14:47

I'm not offended, and I'm a subscriber. I'm just feel that when people say that "Mumsnet runs on a tight budget", I wonder what information they are basing this on?

Twiglett, the point I'm making is that in my mind there is a very great difference between looking to the whole MN community to share the costs of running the site, and asking the community to pay shareholders and other stakeholders profits. It is particularly emotive when you end up paying some people salaries from these subscriptions. I feel that some of the threads recently on "why not pay more subs, and have less ads" miss the point that the owners want a healthy return. I have subscribed, but having looked at the accounts I may reconsider for next year.

Twiglett · 24/08/2005 14:39

if you don't get why she feels part of the whole mumsnet site now ladymuck you never will

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