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Sir William Borlase Grammar School vs Reading School

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Hattiehoo · 16/02/2010 21:01

I am looking at both of these schools for my DS who is very academic but not geeky by any means. He does well but generally does the bare minimum. SWBGS has the advantage that it is very close to us and the journey to Reading can be a bit of a nightmare. SWBGS is also Co-ed unlike Reading and that would mean that hopefully my daughters could follow him there later. However I hear various rumours about the lack of discipline at SWBGS and that it isn't "cool" to be hard working (my son wouldn't need much persuading that this is the case). On the other hand, it sounds a lot of fun and Reading perhaps is too much all work and no play. Any information from anyone with knowledge of these schools would be very much appreciated! Thank you.

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mumblechum · 24/02/2010 14:43

Just checked, in 2009 it was 99% Ato C at Alevel, 69% of all GCSEs were A* or A, and they're ranked 50 in the country. Must be doing something right! Ds does about 8 to 10 hours a week at home which is probably about right.

I'll take your word for the discipline thing, not having actually sat in class at all, but would be surprised if they got such good results with lousy class control, tbh.

frakkinaround · 24/02/2010 14:38

Incidentally, mumblechum, my brother didn't get 100% A-C in his GCSEs and he went there so if they're consistently in that top level they're fiddling their figures.

frakkinaround · 24/02/2010 14:36

Doesn't mean they do their homework! Of course they're all naturally bright but that doesn't mean they actually work hard in lessons or do the homework. Or it might be an issue for sub teachers but that says volumes about discipline doesn't it?!

Having said that you could go to worse schools in the area.

mumblechum · 24/02/2010 14:32

Ahem, Frakkin, have you looked at the league tables recently? Borlase are consistently in the top level with, I think from memory, 100% A to C at GCSE

frakkinaround · 24/02/2010 14:24

Discipline is a big issue. My mother occasionally subs there for maths and it's something she complains constantly about. The 'not cool' to work attitude is quite common and there seems to be a lot of playing hard and not much working hard going on. Incidentally I was offered my first drugs by a Borlase pupil...

I have to say I'm now wondering which Y10 boy mumblechum's son is because there are apparently only about a handful who actually do work hard in the whole school.

Not for a child with any SEN either!

mumblechum · 24/02/2010 14:19

DS is in yr 10 at SWBGS. He's obviously brainy, they all are there, but by no means top of the class, if anything he thinks he's not doing well enough as he's "only" predicted 9As and 3Bs, whereas a lot of his friends, even the boys, are predicted 12 As.

Borlase is great in a lot of ways, certainly the academic expectations are extremely high, any slippage is immediately addressed by the form tutor or head of year. No one is allowed to fail, essentially, so the pressure is quite intense.

On the plus side, the extra curricular stuff is outstanding, eg there are loads of little rock bands who take it in turns after school to use the rehearsal studios and fully equipped recording studios. On the sports side there is a very good rowing team and ds has basically grown up messing about in boats in the evenings and weekends, does lots of racing at national level. There are lots of other sports teams, I don't know about any of the dance stuff, ds dropped it as soon as possible at the end of yr 9.

In a nutshell, Borlase pupils work and play very hard. There's a lovely atmosphere of fun and respect between the boys and the girls, without any pressure at all to go out with each other, but there's a lot of mixing at weekends on a friends basis.

We were hooked on the visit as it was a lovely summers evening, the roses in the quadrangle were in full bloom and the headmasters golden lab was padding around, the pupils were all very confident, polite etc. There's very little racial mix and the pupils are all, that I can see, in very affluent families which may or not be a problem. Many of them live in massive houses with tennis courts and/or pools which can be a bit offputting!

Hattiehoo · 21/02/2010 16:25

Thank you both for your replies. I must admit LALady, my perception was a bit like yours of Borlase. Those skirts were unbelievable!! My DS is not much of a dancer either although I think he would really enjoy the music side of things.

I'm pleased to hear Reading is fun as well as being super academic. I think it is our school of choice and now all he has to do is get in!

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Milliways · 21/02/2010 16:09

DS is at Reading (and another MNer had her DS there).

It IS academic, but the definately have loads of fun. Almost too much if I believe everyting DS tells me his form gets up too. They are very used to handling boys and have great projects etc to work on.

I do however believe the Star Trek day was just because the teachers wanted to see the film (day ended with a cinema trip).

Early Latin classes involved jackets off & re-enacting Roman wars.

We live in Reading & the journey is still a nightmare - sometimes think those getting the train in ghave it easier.

No idea about your other school though.

LAlady · 19/02/2010 18:10

I can tell you about SWBGS. We have been looking at schools for our DS (he's year 5 at the moment) in preparation for 11+ next October. A number of the children from his current school go onto SWB as it is the closest school etc. Having looked at other Grammar schools, we went to the open evening expecting to be overawed by it. We weren't by any means.

The school has a specialism in performing arts so there's lots of dancing/singing etc. They have an excellent academic record, of course, but you have to bear in mind that your DS may have to participate in this part of the school day, a lot!

The discipline does seem to be an issue particularly the school uniform on the girls. Loads of very very short skirts. I would imagine for boys it could be a massive distraction. There were also some drug issues earlier this year (I know that it isn't the only school that experiences this but it was reported in the local press).

So although I wanted to be massively impressed, I am afraid I wasn't which is a great shame.

Don't know about Reading School as we aren't in that catchment area.