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Assessed coursework for GCSE -- do parents cheat?

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Deadworm · 10/11/2009 09:55

DS1 handed in an essay last week which will count towards his final GCSE result for English.

It just occured to me that some parents might check their children's assessed work and correct errors or suggest improvements. Does anyone do that?

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mmrred · 12/11/2009 20:37

Current Year 11 and 10 will still need to do coursework for their GCSE. When current Year 9 start their GCSE's it will change to Controlled Assessment in school.

I daresay there will always be parents who overstep the line between helping the child do homework and doing the coursework for them. As I understand it, however, the main concern of the exam boards is plagiarism from the internet.

I think it is a shame that coursework is going as it gives really hard-working kids (and those children who need more time to get writing done, for whatever reason) the opportunity of doing well.

I can't help feeling it is a bit of a cynical ploy to even out the boy/girl divide as generally it is girls who will re-draft a piece of coursework over and over.

JANEITEluddite · 10/11/2009 18:35

For English, the current Yr 9 will do only 'controlled conditions' pieces in class, plus exams. There will be no opportunity to take anything home and get extra help on it - not that the parents of my pupils do this anyway, as most of them have little or no English or v limited formal education.

SleepingLion · 10/11/2009 18:32

If English teachers are correcting errors on coursework you are right to be

Exam board guidelines generally state that we are allowed to make suggestions at the end of a piece on how it could be improved in quite general terms, and suggest that a student looks again at their use of commas, for example, but we should not identify individual errors and certainly should not correct them...

selectivememory · 10/11/2009 18:27

Yes, they do.

I know someone whose son did all his girlfriend's GCSE chemistry coursework for her.

Fortunately for me, it was hard enough getting my DS1 to do his own let alone anyone else's

I didn't help any of my older DCs with theirs, mainly because I had a younger child and they didn't ask me. I know lots of people who 'proof read', there's lots of cheating going on.

Thank goodness they are stopping it.

scaryteacher · 10/11/2009 16:38

Some GCSE courses don't have coursework either -the Edexcel RE GCSE for example

ADifferentMe · 10/11/2009 15:42

My DD is much cleverer than me so there would be no point

I would like to see a schedule of coursework due dates and exams so I know whether I should be allowing nights out or not!

MelonCauli · 10/11/2009 14:58

It's not being stopped but will move to being done in school during a series of monitored sessions where the students will only have access to their notes made during their lessons.

Remotew · 10/11/2009 14:53

Current year 11's are doing coursework, but you will be relieved to know it's being done mainly in school.

mumblechum · 10/11/2009 14:34

This is the last year for coursework? Does that mean the current yr 11s, do you know?

So ds isn't lying when he says he hasn't any?

JesusChristOtterStar · 10/11/2009 14:29

yes i think this is the last year

Hullygully · 10/11/2009 14:27

Much easier to do it yourself than nag them.

Are they stopping it?

JesusChristOtterStar · 10/11/2009 14:25

yes that's why they are stopping it
i dont and would be too busy to anyway -but get when my friends talk openly about it

Deadworm · 10/11/2009 14:25

(V. releived that everyone is so hostile to the idea of intervening in their children's coursewrk.)

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Hullygully · 10/11/2009 14:25

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Deadworm · 10/11/2009 14:24

Abouteve, I'm a bit too about the teachers pointing out errors and gettging children to correct work before it is finally submitted.

Some teachers seem so terrified of children doing badly in exams that they can barely teach the subject (instead of teaching the exam). I know it isn't their fault: they have been pushed into this way of teaching. But it still makes me angry.

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Remotew · 10/11/2009 14:15

Most of it is done in school for the very reason that parents were helping. DD has only brought English home to correct per the teachers recommendations. Not sure why.

Danthe4th · 10/11/2009 13:49

I hadn't even considered it till now!!!
No I wouldn't I would think it would be very obvious if my dd work suddenly changed and how embarrassing if she got a bad mark, how would you ever live that down!

nappyaddict · 10/11/2009 13:48

I don't think they should be allowed to take coursework home actually.

Piffle · 10/11/2009 13:46

Christ I've not looked at my sons coursework sicne he was yr 5
he is now yr11

mumblechum · 10/11/2009 13:45

ds hasn't done any coursework yet to my knowledge. (yr 10)

Oh dearie dearie me.

pagwatch · 10/11/2009 13:43

DS1 did his GCSEs last year and I never ever read or looked at his coursework unless he asked me to check if a certain section read as he intended.

Actually you would be able to tell if I helped as the standard of his work would drop through the floor.

I stopped having anything to do with his homework when he was about 11. He needed to understand he was doing it for himself and he needed to be responsible for it. I think the approach worked, he is a highly motivated and conciencious worker who did well and is doing well on his A level courses.
If I had helped at GCSE to get a grade that got him onto an A level course I would not be able to help now and he would be fucked stranded.

southeastastra · 10/11/2009 13:36

no, maybe i should !

Remotew · 10/11/2009 13:35

DD is in year 11 and her coursework is all her own. It's the teachers that are correcting it, the coursework for English she submits comes back home with comments and pointers to improve it before the final submission. I'm at that.

If there is a comment she doesn't understand I will explain it to her but never actually do the work.

Docbunches · 10/11/2009 10:54

I think some parents DO help more than they should with homework and coursework.

A couple of years ago, my SIL did all her DD's GCSE coursework as they were desperate for her to get the right grades for Sixth form and university. Unsurprisingly, she is now struggling with A levels.

Apart from an occasional tricky maths problem, I never help my own DCs. My DD has a class History assessment today and they've been told that under NO circumstances are they to bring in any notes to copy and it MUST be their own written work. Also, my DS recently completed a GCSE English essay which he wouldn't even let me read!

Deadworm · 10/11/2009 10:29

oh cross-post Melon. Thanks. That sounds reassuring.

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