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What would you like to see school's teach?

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Welshwoman · 17/04/2009 10:42

10+ budgeted nutritional recipes cooked from scratch
(I despair at having to pre-prepare all the ingredients for my son at the moment )

How to be a good consumer along the lines of how interest rates work on mortgages and credit cards and basic consumer law
( I know its taught in theory in maths but I would like a separate lesson on financial management the course should be written by Martin Lewis !)

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edam · 19/04/2009 15:25

I mean, how many people know about the Lancashire cotton workers supporting the slaves it the US, to the point of starvation?

edam · 19/04/2009 15:24

I would like children to be taught about the history of democracy and civil rights. They need to know that people fought and died for the right to vote and that you have to work for a decent society, it isn't a given. Right from Magna Carta through the Glorious Revolution and the struggle for universal suffrage in the 19th/20th centuries and beyond.

Help them to appreciate that what they have didn't come easy and if they want to have a stake in society, they need to carry on the fight.

itchyandscratchy · 19/04/2009 15:18

and who's going to ensure they do this? the whole point of drives like these are that some parents, even many in some areas, aren't doing it.

see my post of 17th April 13.55 and twinset's of 13.57

Ivykaty44 · 19/04/2009 14:21

I would like teachers to be able to teach English and maths and not keep being loaded down with all sorts of other things from budgeting to how to handle a baby for a day.

All the other things are good and could be taught at youth club or somewhere else on that level. Or perhaps even parents could tach there dc how to budget or how to cook. If they cant already do those things then get them to learn together in a community center.

faeriefruitcake · 19/04/2009 14:15

I would like to see some parents taught how to interact with teachers. Mainly because I'm sick of trying to help students only to be called a 'c-nt' by the parents.

itchyandscratchy · 19/04/2009 10:25

senua - yourself!
You should aim your comment at the Headteacher and the school's curriculum manager. It's not strictly the class teachers' job. Ask about it- I'm sure they'd be happy to tell you.

Those posters that worry about the time needed to do all this - well, some skills are 'built in' to good teaching and others are taught in the citizenship and/or phse lessons that are timetabled each week. We also do a lot of work via the tutor time at the beginning of the day (team-building, organisational skills, brain-training, buddying, etc)

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 19/04/2009 02:06

Sign language. From infants. Even to a basic communication level. I think it would open up the world completely

campion · 19/04/2009 01:49

Not sure which ingredients you're 'pre-preparing', Welshwoman, but I should think it's because there's hardly any time in the lesson to do it all. Practical lessons are a nightmare of not enough time in most schools.

Why is your son not doing the preparing? It should be regarded as part of his homework - planning,shopping, being organised as well as the physical skills. Often more demanding than sitting down to a Maths exercise.

Budgeting, meal planning, cookery, wiring a plug, doing the washing, understanding domestic equipment,kitchen plannng, safety and more used to be embraced in Home Economics. Unfortunately the subject was cancelled by the stroke of a ministerial pen and cobbled into Food Technology ( if you were lucky).

I agree about touch typing. It should be compulsory.

jemart - I find the ' school is for getting enough skills to get a job' argument deeply depressing. Education is not about weighing how many facts you can stuff into a child (IMO)

mimsum · 18/04/2009 15:36

correct use of grammar ...

senua · 17/04/2009 22:35

Parents are saying, "we would like x,y & z taught" and the teachers are saying, "but we already do that".
So what would I like to see schools teach? - how about 'training teachers how to communicate with parents'.

stillenacht · 17/04/2009 15:29

yes most of ours have already done 6/7 by the time they are in year 10.

abraid · 17/04/2009 15:18

Latin.
Sequential history, ie, not just jumping from the Tudors to the Nazis to the Romans back to the Nazis, etc.

jemart · 17/04/2009 15:13

yikes, I sat 10 gcses and that was loads....

PrimulaVeris · 17/04/2009 14:50

13/14 GCSE's.....??!!!

stillenacht · 17/04/2009 14:47

There really isn't that much time in the curriculum at secondary (even lower) as most of ours sit about 13/14 GCSE's and start prep for them in year 8/9

stillenacht · 17/04/2009 14:46

At my GS next year we are introducing 'food technology'. Also in PSHE lessons many many financial things are covered as well as sex ed, moral and social issues.

PrimulaVeris · 17/04/2009 14:45

Agree that academic stuff comes first - but there is still time in curriculum in early secondary for all this (different at GCSE though)

I went to a grammar where such skills were frowned on and not taught at all (Presumably our academic merits were supposed to get us either a career or rich husband to pay for staff to do this kind of thing). I think that was very wrong.

donnie · 17/04/2009 14:32

'school's' ? pardon?

jemart · 17/04/2009 14:30

It is sad that some parents are unable or unwilling to teach their children basic stuff like cooking and managing money but there is only so much that can be taught in the school day, if we fill up lesson times with life skills, when are our children going to learn maths, reading, science, etc?

Welshwoman · 17/04/2009 14:26

As for the ''time'' issue - what are they going to teach them now that the school leaving age is being raised? Just extending the current syllabus when this has failed many of the lower academic achievers already? This is a genuine question as not sure I have seen any concrete plans and there seam to be some fab teachers on this thread! Think my son?s school must be quite traditional compared to the ones you teach in!

Definite yes to the touch typing and DIY skills

Re the cooking - for me its not so much about cake making but kids being able to do basic preparation from scratch as my DS1 is doing supposedly ?enhanced? catering and we still have to pre prepare everything at home (I personally get him to do his own but know many parents who do it all )

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Welshwoman · 17/04/2009 14:19

Borrowing

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Welshwoman · 17/04/2009 14:16

Lol at teaching budgeting at home - considering the mess the economy is in as the Gov and banking leaders being paid millions haven?t got a clue about budgeting and the fact that we have the highest borrow levels per head in Western Europe.

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JustGetOnWithIt · 17/04/2009 14:09

I really don't care if my sons never bake a cake.

JustGetOnWithIt · 17/04/2009 14:09

So who do we expect to teach them maths, English literature, science, geography, foreign languages and history and when do we expect them to do it?
All the other 'skills' people are listing here can be learned or picked up at any time in life or through life experience.

twinsetandpearls · 17/04/2009 13:57

Yes Itchy we have to work with the society we have not the one we wish we had.

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