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Private education for just one of my DC? Have you done this? Can I possibly....?

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ScruffySoAndSo · 21/12/2008 13:23

just send one of my 4 DC to a private school.

There is more to this than I wanted to go into in this post but basically feel that DD2 is lacking in self confidence and self esteem and think that a private ed could give here these things.

We have planned for all 4 DC to go private possibly for 6th form so it is kind of in the grand scheme for all of them IYKWIM. But will I store up problems for later by others thinking this was unfair to treat DD2 so differently?

DD1 said today that she could understand our reasons for doing it and is quite OK on the face of it. However, the privilege of private ed may be hard on her in reality.

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TheFallenMadonna · 23/12/2008 15:23

My DH went to the local comp, (younger) BIL to an independent. They aren't at all close, which I think is partly due to their wildly different experiences. MIL goes on and on about how fab BIL's school was and how dreadful DH's school was, which also makes DH a bit . They got exactly the same A level results BTW.

ChirpyGrinch · 23/12/2008 15:13

I went to private school, my 3 older sisters didn't (my brother did but was 7 years behind us so didnt come into it really)
I went as I got a full scholarship adn suffered such bad bullying I ended up leaving and going to local state, where I got on great.
I resented that my sisters seemed to get an easier ride as I was studying for mroe exams and had more homework, they resented that I was at the local 'posh' school.
There was a lot of rivalry between the 2 schools and it was hard for all of us, so that is another thing to consider.

Personally, I wouldnt do it, but then I was bullied for being 'poor' as I could only afford ot go there with the scholarship so that might not apply in this situation.

ScruffySoAndSo · 23/12/2008 14:53

Cheers Apostrophe - the High School is the best for miles and we are lucky to have it so close but you are right it is the year group who are the problem.

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Astrophe · 23/12/2008 07:05

I think you should send her, and see how you go with the others. Maybe your other DC will be perfectly happy and flourish at the state school, or maybe you could save a bit for a couple of years to get a 'buffer' in case of a bad financial year? I think its is important to consider the future, but really, you need to make a decisio for th here and now, because you just don't know what wil happen in the future.

Another thought - it sounds as thought your DD's year group is the problem - are there any other State schools nearby that your DD could go to, rather than a privae school?

Best wishes, whatever you choose

MollieO · 22/12/2008 22:23

The school my ds has started at is viewed as the 'non-academic' one where we live. Until recently they and the other private school did SATs. My ds's school results were always significantly better than the school that is considered to be the academic hothouse but is less good at blowing its own trumpet. The difference I noticed between the two was the children at the school I chose seemed happier. Leavers from my ds's school do a mix of very selective, non-selective or local grammar.

Fivesetsofschoolfees · 22/12/2008 21:26

A preparatory school puts a lot of emphasis on to destination senior schools, and getting children into the right ones for them. This does not mean they are always academic. They tend to cater for a broad spectrum of children and will work to get hte academic ones in to selective schools, needy ones into nurturing schools etc.

peanutbuttermarmitetoast · 22/12/2008 21:17

No, they're not, I appreciate that, but I can't think of any round here that aren't. I was trying really hard to think where I would send my DC's if I wanted somewhere kind and nurturing where they would get really close attention and support if they were not academic and I couldn't think of one single place. I really do not know what we would do if we found ourselves in that situation.The independent schools here define themselves on where the children go onto next.

Fivesetsofschoolfees · 22/12/2008 20:43

Not all independent schools are acadamic hothouses, pbmt.

peanutbuttermarmitetoast · 22/12/2008 19:30

Just to add that your reason for choosing a private school is because your daughter is lacking in self confidence and self esteem. Why do you think that a private school would make this better. There are a number of children in our school who have come from private schools and the overiding message I'm getting from the parents are that the childrens confidence increased 1000 times when they came into the state school. Obviously all schools are different but many private schools are very pushy, I am hard pushed to think of any round here that aren't, and academically orientated and for children who are not that way inclined and the academic pressure can be detrimental to their development. Most of the schools will say that they develop the childrens confidence etc but if that's what you're looking for then don't take the schools word for it, talk to all sorts of parents and get a real picture.

If that's the only reason for moving your child then could they get that confidence from other activities ie drama or karate?

Please don't think that I am anti private schools, I am not at all, I am very pro but I am also very sure that they are not the answer to all problems and that there are so many that one can't automatically assume that private means that it will meet your childs needs by virtue of how it is funded.

peanutbuttermarmitetoast · 22/12/2008 19:23

Scruffysoandso, Do you have a particular school in mind? I feel very strongly that one should not go private for the sake of it and for being "fair". Obviously if one child is at a poor state school and the other is at a fantastic independent school then that's unfair but if the state school is offering a good education and meeting that childs needs then what is the point of moving them? If it isn't then that's a different question altogether. If the situation is that the one in state education is at a poor school then a consideration would be to look for a better state school and this is often easier later into the schooling as children leave and places come up which don't have to necessarily be filled by children in the catchement.

I certainly wouldn't work full time and all te hours in the world just to pay school fees if the state option was fine. If the state options were dire then I would work 24/7 to pay fees. If you do send all your children privately just to be fair then what does that mean for extras? I am not talking about skiing trips and things like that as I think that it is perfectly fine to say "no, you can't do that it's too expensive" and there will be plenty of children who can't go skiing / on rugby tour / to visit pompeii etc. However, if it means no extra curricular activities, no summer camp, no football lessons, no cubs/ brownies / guides then perhaps private is a step too far, these things are extremely important IMO, and far more important than a private education where there's a good state alternative. Children need more than school and if it means that they can't do anything over and above school then I wouldn't do it.

ScruffySoAndSo · 22/12/2008 18:47

I know. I really hoped there could be a trust that could just provide. No such luck.

I will either scrap this plan completely or have to work incredibly hard to do it.

Is it better to be SAHM or work all hours and pay?? That's what I have got to decide.
It could really be worth it or totally not.

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pantomimEDAMe · 22/12/2008 17:28

Scruffy, someone I know who works in the sector told me LOTS of fees are paid by someone other than the parents... so are they any grandparents/godparents you could beg for help?

Fivesetsofschoolfees · 22/12/2008 16:59

at least. It means I work rather than SAH.

nappyaddict · 22/12/2008 15:57

Gosh that must set you back at least £40k a year

ScruffySoAndSo · 22/12/2008 15:34

FIVE SETS OF SCHOOL FEES?

Do you really pay five sets?

That is eye watering? I know you can get discounts but still.

I am now thinking that I have probably three options:

  1. DD2 stays at state High School
  2. DD2 goes private and others stay state
  3. I go back to work FT and try and send all three little ones.DD1 is thriving where she is.

Seriously, how do you afford all the fees? Do you have a financial scheme to pay for them over forever maybe. DH is a farmer and could easily afford them in a good year but this year we made no profit at all and would be in a huge mess.

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Fivesetsofschoolfees · 22/12/2008 13:52

We are all private now, but have used a mixture in the past. It has not been a problem for our children. You have to look at each child's individual needs and weigh up their needs vs the needs of the whole family.

I know lots of kids who have siblings and grammer and private and I don't think it is a problem for those families.

ScruffySoAndSo · 22/12/2008 13:48

Mrs Guy - that is my fear. I can think of really good reasons for all of them to go.

Oh dear.

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MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 22/12/2008 12:13

We have on in state and one in independent - the independent was an experiment, but after DS1 had been there one day (!) we knew we should have done it years ago, and DS2 will definitely go independent. If you can only afford one, I would not send the one, as you will see the difference and fret that the others are not getting the same opportunities.

ScruffySoAndSo · 22/12/2008 12:04

yes there will be some new kids but our school is the biggest feeder school and think that generally this is a small birth year.

Of course she would be fine there and will prob go state. Our high school is better than most just want to explore all options.

Trouble is I went to a Grammar and DH went private so sort of brainwashed into the elitest system I suppose which is of course totally wrong. I saw the probs my sister had after failing 11 plus and going to a school which wasn't right for her and she still has confidence problems aged 40. some of this is down to her personality but I can see that she didn't have the 'right' peer pressures that I had to push me into doing more with my life.

I am sure I can have enough input by putting DD2 in right situations outside school to help with confidence and esteem. ??

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pantomimEDAMe · 22/12/2008 10:32

Do you know that it will be exactly the same children at high school, without any new ones? That would be unusual.

Shame dd's class/year are so tricky.

ScruffySoAndSo · 22/12/2008 10:22

Interesting posts.

The local High School is actually really good and I am happy for DD2 to go there. The issue for me is that she will not be going up with a strong cohort of friends from her primary school and she has always felt (as we do too) that she is in a 'bad year group'.

She has always been desperate to have good friends as her big sis had at primary but unfortunately there are 17 boys in her class who she has tried really hard to play with, but as they get older she has been called names by them for hanging out with them. The 6 other girls in her class are only really interested in shopping and the Disney channel and there seems no real drive to do anything. Before you say it though, I do of course encourage extra activities and she has piano lessons (loves them), dance and Brownies away from school friends.

The girl friends she has are very immature in comparison to DD1's friends at this age and they are quite domineering in a sense that they tell DD2 how to behave and generally push her around a bit. DD2 is very sociable and easy going - but unfortunately too easy going and wants to please her mates at all costs.

I just wondered if private could help her have more confidence and altogether a happier time at school. She would be fine at local school but feel things could be better.

DH and I really loved school (I know ) and so want the same for our kids. Feel we only get one shot at this.

BTW - can only afford for one to go the whole way, others will get the 6th form option as they are doing OK ATM.

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twentypence · 22/12/2008 03:40

Me and my brother both went to state school. I resented that I couldn't audition for a specialist music school because they couldn't afford for us both to go private and wanted things to be fair. I had heaps more money spent on all my music lessons anyway, whilst db even managed to have those in the state system.

It'll never be fair if one of them has an expensive talent!

nappyaddict · 22/12/2008 02:25

Me and my sister went to private school. My brother didn't. However he had left or was in his last year when I moved to private. Originally it was just me cos I won a scholarship and my parents couldn't really afford to send me. My Aunt saw how good the school was and helped my parents pay for her to go aswell.

Astrophe · 22/12/2008 00:16

My two brothers went to a private school, and I didn't.

Complicated circumstances - I did not get a place at the private school initially, was deeply unhappy at the government grammar school where I was, but by the time I got a place I had decided I wanted to stay put at the grammer school - partly because I had finally settled in, and partly because I knew the financial preassure my parents were under at the time.

I think there were times I whinged about my brothers longer school holidays and exciting excursions, but actually it wasn't a big deal and I don't resent it even slightly now.

Having said that, the school I went to was very good, and cost prevented my brothers from going to all the expensive overseas trips etc at their provate school, so in the end we had fairly similar educational experiences.

If your other DC would be left at a 'bad' state school or onw with limited extra curricular opportunities, I think it could be a problem. But if thy are happy at their school, then I'd say it probably wont be.

WeWishEWEaMerryXmas · 22/12/2008 00:12

My youngest brother goes to private school, no resentment from me and sister unless we are using it to get my Mum to do something i.e. - Muuuum, you really should buy me this top I love as you have sent DB to private school all of these years etc

We understand it was under different circumstances - financial in our parents case. My best friend went to state and her brother went to private as he was dyslexic and his parents felt he needed more support than the state school could offer, no resentment between any of them either.

If it is right for your daughter then do it, just try and ensure they have the same opportunities open to them in the way of clubs etc.