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pfb -in fact only child - off to secondary on Thursday...

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MaryAnnSingleton · 02/09/2008 08:07

am being calm but every so often panic strikes me - ds is fine about it, it's just me fretting about roads to cross/ money for the canteen - will it get lost/stolen, what about the lockers, arghhh ! Plus,as with the beginning of every term,I'll miss him - I love having him here in the holidays !
It also means that I have no excuses not to sit at my desk and work on the job I'm meant to finish by the end of Seot...

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bellavita · 11/11/2008 16:08

Oh bless him.

Do you think that this boys parents could be having money issues? Do you know who they are?

How about threatening him with a packed lunch if it happens again?

MaryAnnSingleton · 11/11/2008 15:32

argh ! I despair - today he lent the rest of his change from lunch to the same boy,who has promised to pay it all back tomorrow and will not ask for money again...difficult to lecture ds about it as he has a friend home to tea now...actually friend who is in yr 8 has told ds that he wouldn't give his money to anyone..maybe that might convince him...grrr,though

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magentadreamer · 10/11/2008 22:49

Money burns a hole in DD's pocket!

roisin · 10/11/2008 22:03

ds1 is a real miser and doesn't spend much money. He has over £100 in his pocket money account saved up from birthdays and so on. He only gets £1 pocket money a week.

For Christmas I've decided he's not getting any money. If rellies send cash for him I'm going to spend it for him! He needs some new clothes

He doesn't ask for loads of stuff and never has, but he "would like" all sorts of things, including new trainers and Wii games. But he doesn't want them enough to spend his own money on them

MaryAnnSingleton · 10/11/2008 21:56

thanks bellavita - I was worried that I was over reacting - am thinking seriously of roisin's envelope idea still...will see what next few days bring. I want him to be kind and thoughtful but certainly don't want people to take advantage of him - a delicate balance really...

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bellavita · 10/11/2008 21:52

I wish DS was like that MAS - money goes through his hands like water.

I too would want DS to be kind to others in the hope that someone would be kind to him should he need it, but would hate for him to be taken advantage of by an older boy. FWIW I would be like you and probably over react with him

I think roisins idea is a good one with the emergency money in a sealed envelope (for his use only).

DH thinks I was being mean asking DS to hand over any change left every day for it to be carried over, so whatever DS does not use for his lunch is now his, although we did find that giving him £2.50 a day was too much and he had loads left, so we cut it back to £2 per day. Although he does take a capri sun so he does not have to buy a drink.

MaryAnnSingleton · 10/11/2008 21:30

ds has no clue about money really - he has never been one to want things/new stuff -if you ask him what he'd like for presents he never really wants anything or asks for anything..not to make him sound like a saintly boy, but he just doesn't seem to want to acquire things. You have to suggests things - I'm always itching to spend his money with him, but...He has a fair amount of savings as a consequence ! You'd have a job actually getting him to spend anything though. I explained that I can't afford to finance his giving away his change though. I also told him that I would be very angry if I found out he was giving money away before he'd even bought his own lunch..think I pressed my argument home firmly there.

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roisin · 10/11/2008 20:20

With ds1 to encourage him to use his money wisely and budget and think about how much different options cost, I have agreed that any 'balance' at the end of the week is his to keep.

Occasionally he buys a chocolate bar after school before catching his bus, more often he goes to town on a Saturday to buy a pack of Pokemon cards or similar. (When will he outgrow that junk?!)

MaryAnnSingleton · 10/11/2008 17:50

btw, he seems to think that any money left after his lunch is spare and ndoesn't count,which is why he handed it over I think...I told him that I used the change each day to go towards the next day's money.

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MaryAnnSingleton · 10/11/2008 17:49

that's good advice roisin- will see tomorrow if the money is returned,meanwhile he has £2 in his purse and have told him on no circumstances should he think of lending any money until he has bought his own lunch and only if he has been repaid the first amount. Will think about an emergency envelope but chances are ds would forget he had it ! It's tough, but I guess it's another lesson to learn in ,managing your own things/money/dealing with other people.

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roisin · 10/11/2008 17:45

I would monitor it very closely MAS. Money can quickly cause problems in schools.

In terms of emergency money for ds1 what I have done is:
In a envelope in a small separate pocket of his bag he has 'emergency money'. This is 2 x 20p in case he needs to phone home and £2 in case he loses his lunch money or his bus pass, as this would get him safely home.

I've signed over the seal of the envelope and told him to only access it if he needs to, and to let me know if he has.

MaryAnnSingleton · 10/11/2008 17:10

what do you think of this...and maybe I'm over reacting ? Ds' purse was empty when I looked today,he'd apparently lent a boy in his year some money,after he'd spent his own lunch money. I got a bit lecture- y saying that he mustn't give his money away willy nilly as it's for his lunch - I put in enough for lunch and a bit extra for emergencies,not much,about a pound or so. Also concerned in case it was because he was made to hand it over, only suspicious because the boy is one from his old school who has been not very nice to him before - of course I should give him the benefit of the doubt. Told ds to ask the boy for it back tomorrow anyway. Also said that he shouldn't lend money because I can't keep topping it up for him to hand out to others etc...I do go on a bit, but wanted to impress on him the im portance of responsibilty for his own property..on the other hand I want him to be kind but not to be taken advantage of - he would be seen as a bit of a soft touch you see. I feel like a stuck records going on at him.WWYD ?

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bellavita · 08/11/2008 00:24

that's fab magenta

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/11/2008 21:04

yay magenta's dd

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magentadreamer · 07/11/2008 19:23

Please may I have a proud Mum moment? DD has waited all week to find out if she was going to be moved up to the top set in Maths. She came home tonight and told me that she wasn't but never mind she'll just have to work harder and get a better grade in the end of term test! She proudly told me her end of year target had been changed to a sub level higher and she wants to beat it. I'm just really rather proud of the fact she's so motivated - long may it last!

roisin · 06/11/2008 20:58

curry week sounds great
ds1's school seem generally on the ball regarding targets. Most homeworks are graded on a rather nifty 3x4 grid, so there are 12 boxes iyswim, one of which is ticked. Up the side you have below target, on target, above target. Across the bottom are 4 grades for 'effort'. If you get 1 for effort you get a detention, if you get 3 for effort you get a merit, 4 for effort you get 2 merits. The results are then transferred to a chart, so they have a running record of whether or not they are 'on target'... apart from in English where they don't seem to have got it all organised.

Anyway, I'm pleased to hear that 2 English teachers is not unheard of, so presumably is thought to be a potential success ...!

Hmm... I'll keep a watching brief for the moment

MaryAnnSingleton · 06/11/2008 09:45

yes,agree too - think a gladiator can look heroic !
Ds has put the curry thing first,followed by the day trips to various places in the area and third choice is a pick'n'mix week of art/first aid and other jolly things.. really hope he gets the curry one though !!

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magentadreamer · 06/11/2008 08:03

It did sound to me as if he was as I call Dd when tired a bear with a grumpy head!

bellavita · 06/11/2008 07:48

Thank you magenta - thought I was going mad. I was upset because when he said "you never help me with my homework", it sounded like he thought I did not care which is not the case, it is just difficult with working 3 evenings a week, but DH always helps him. I felt I had let him down.

I have just approached him again on how I perceived the poster and he listened to what I had to say rather than get upset, which was a bonus - maybe he was just tired after a long day!

Roisin - DS's targets were set a couple of weeks into the school term in September and he two has two different English classes and teachers and one of his books also does not have a lot in it as he said they do a lot of reading in this class and discussing.

He has a list of stuff in the front of the planner and it does say Consultatation Day, by appointment, but there is not a date next to it.

magentadreamer · 06/11/2008 07:10

MAS -The curry making week sounds fab!

Bellavitia - I'm with you on a gladiator looking heroic if thats any help.

Roisin -DD has two English teachers as well and the same in Maths. As for targets DD has got them for the most subjects - I'd rather they'd given out the half term grades! I know DD has done very well in Maths and will no doubt get another target in it at some stage but it would be nice to know how she's doing in the other subjects and not just how she's expected to do. We were told that each half term they'll get grades and effort grades - mind you if they're NC levels I'll be on here asking what does this mean! . We don't have a meeting with her form tutor till December. I took a look last night at her English book and it does look a bit "scrappy" work wise but Dd says alot of the work they've been doing is not just as she put it writing stuff down but talking about poems and meanings and stuff like that!She has had various homework subjects to do - a presentation, a poem and a story, a book report plus she's now writing an account of a school trip. If your worried about it in general then I would mention it.

roisin · 05/11/2008 18:51

We have (first) parents evening in a few weeks' time. I think it's just with the form tutor, but we haven't had details yet.

I'm wondering whether to mention the following:

Generally school is ace and very on the ball about everything, and staff really work very hard. But in English it all seems a bit more chaotic. Ds1 has 2 teachers for 2 lessons each. (They are both ft, so I'm not sure why they job share his class).

  • He hasn't been given a target in English, whereas he has in every other subject.
  • He earned a merit certificate in English (for 10 merits) weeks ago but it hasn't materialised yet. (Other subjects sort this out immediately or next lesson at the latest.)
  • Homework in English seems quite rare, undemanding and is certainly not set to a pattern.
  • The amount of 'work' in his exercise book seems low compared with other subjects.
  • He's had a number of lessons with supply teachers in English.

It's not that I think he's getting appalling service in English, just that it's not up to the usual high standards of the rest of the school atm. English is one of ds1's strong points and he really hasn't been inspired and motivated by the subject so far at secondary.

bellavita · 05/11/2008 18:10

Those sound interesting, I am sure DS would like the curry week also (he loves them)

Have to post and run as I need to get ready to go to work, but just need to vent my frustrations.

DH not home yet, I have been asking DS to do his homework for a while, finally, he gets the books out and says he needs help. Ok I say, whilst I am trying to wash up. History, a poster of the film "The Gladiator". He has to choose some words from a list that he thinks describe the poster - herioc, mysterious, fun, etc. I start going through the words and the meanings and DS starts shouting at me that I never want to help him. He said how can he look heroic when it is the roman empire and they were not heroic? I try to help as much as I can, but work three nights a week 7 till midnigt.

Is he grasping the wrong end of the stick with the homework or am I? The gladiator can look herioc without actually been a hero?

Sorry if this does not make sense, had better go and get my shower.

MaryAnnSingleton · 05/11/2008 17:54

ds has been choosing activities from the selection for Activities Week in July - various things ranging from a sailing/watersports thing in The Dordogne and a PGL week to a Literary Tour and Child Care... his first choice is a curry making week !! Off to meet his tutor tomorrow- yr 7 consultations.

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bellavita · 03/11/2008 19:25

7 weeks - oh my.

DS has come home with just 2 pieces of homework tonight, so not bad going. He is tired though.

roisin · 03/11/2008 18:27

ds1 was a bit reluctant this morning, but has had a good day and seems to be straight back into the swing of things.

7 weeks til the next holidays

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