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Do ALL children take mobiles to secondary school?

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roisin · 21/07/2008 11:00

At our school we have a policy of no mobiles, but know full well that most students have them in their bags. (Hopefully switched off and hopefully they don't get them out during the school day ). They are the root cause of all sorts of problems and I'm not a fan at all.

DS1 doesn't even have a phone yet, but we've agreed he can have dh's til Christmas then will get his own at Christmas when he knows what he wants.

He will have a 15 min bus journey each way, and would probably happily spend some of this time texting his mates, or phoning us to let us know he's going to be late/in detention or whatever.

So would I be ultra mean mummy to say "No, school policy of no phones means no phones and you're not taking one to school!"

Do any of you have children in secondary who do not take their phones in to school on a regular basis?

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GrapefruitMoon · 30/07/2008 09:03

My dd is also about to start secondary... the school she is going to has a huge catchment area and lots of the children travel a long way by themselves so mobiles are useful. The school allows them to bring in their phones but they must be kept in their lockers during the day. I think most schools around here have similar policies - some insist the phones are left in the school office.

We have given dd an old one of ours for now....

ReallyTired · 29/07/2008 12:49

The school I am working is involved in an experiment with Vodaphone. 15 year 9s children have been given a smartphone. Its a PDA device, with a camera, pocket word, pocket excel, pocket powerpoint and a wireless network card. Its called handheld learning.

The idea of the experiment is that if they all have the same phone then you will have less issues with jelously, theft etc. I am writing to write a script that when the phone detects the school wireless network that it switches off the phone part of the PDA. Admtially this is proving qutie difficult.

Last term the children did a trial with these mobile phones and it wasn't the disaster I expected. Actually the kids looked after them and put them to good educational use.

At the moment the biggest obsticle is cost. It costs about £400 a phone and unless Vodaphone heavily subsidise the cost of the phones then it will not happen. However as you say the cost of these devices are coming down.

Rather schools banning them, prehaps its better to think about ways of embracing them.

Loshad · 28/07/2008 23:21

my oldest - just going into Y10 has never taken a phone to school, ds2(going into y9) sometimes takes his, but usually never when needed

fizzbuzz · 27/07/2008 22:06

There was also an incident where a member of staff confiscated an Ipod off a child

Said child phoned his mum about it. Colleague went to deliver Ipod to Senior member of staff for safe keeping. Senior member of staff told colleague that child had to have it returned as mum had phoned up and played hell. This all happened in the space of 5 minutes!

fizzbuzz · 27/07/2008 22:02

One of these parents was phoning from the labour ward to tell her daughter she'd just had a little boy!

unknownrebelbang · 27/07/2008 21:57

It's stories like that that irritate the hell out of me, and would make me want to ban them completely if I worked in a school (even though I've already stated I've found it useful for DS1).

Blandmum · 27/07/2008 21:52

I have also had a mother phone her 11 year old in the middle of a lesson

fizzbuzz · 27/07/2008 21:50

I would like that MB, they have them in Japan.

What really pisses me off, is I have had 2 instances where parents have phoned their kids in the lesson! This makes me insanely angry.

Phones have rung (despite supposedly being switched off)and it is the parents!

swedishmum · 27/07/2008 20:11

I would be furious if my dds' phones were confiscated - fortunately they are are at a school where no-one would consider using them in class - because their school coach does not always turn up/ sometimes breaks down, and they are a mile away from home when they reach the bus stop in a deserted area with no footpath. If children were sensiblke enough to use them at appropriate times only then responsible children wouldn't have to suffer blanket bans.

Blandmum · 26/07/2008 16:33

ys they do, and the more brazen will try to use them in class, while denying the very though once caught.

I'd like to have some form of supressor tat simply prevents any mobile use in school time. But sadly.....

roisin · 26/07/2008 14:40

But do the kids still bring them and keep them hidden in their bags MB?

I loathe them in schools and they do cause so many problems. There is a payphone right next to the bus-stop, so he could easily ring us if he is running late, and not risk missing the bus iyswim.

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Blandmum · 26/07/2008 14:18

We ban them until the sixth form. They have been involved in bullying, are a risk of theft and the little beggers bugger about with them in the class.

and then lie about it. Ad nauseam.

Cue much wasted lesson time

so we ban them.

School will phone home/ recieve calls if needed and we have pay phones that the kids can also use if they wish

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mumeeee · 26/07/2008 13:43

No not all children take mobiles to school. DD3 didn't have a mobile until she was 15 and then decided that she would not take it to scvhool. This was because a lot of mobiles were going misssing at school and the school advised them not to take them or to hide them in their bags.

leosdad · 22/07/2008 10:06

Our school bans phones, mp3s, ipods etc in the lower school (year 7-9) but allows them from year 10 once they are mature(!) enough to look after their own property and not get things out during class time but still have the option to confiscate if they abuse the priveledge.

The school does allow emergency calls home from their phone.

janeite · 21/07/2008 21:57

I was very reluctant to get dd1 a phone when she started in Yr 7; however I relented and got her the cheapest PAYG one. She only uses it to text dp if she's on her way home, or staying for drama club or whatever so we probably only put £10 in it every couple of months. We will do the same for dd2 when she starts in Sept although she won't really need it as they'll come home together, at least to begin with.

At the school I teach in they are supposed to hand them into the office. Tbh they rarely do but so long as they are in bags and switched off it's not a problem. I probably only have to deal with a "phone related incident" about once every six weeks, usually somebody's "accidentally" ringing in class - and this is in an inner-city, supposedly "tough" school.

The 02 deal sounds good: will probably get dd2 an 02 PAYG one - thanks for the rec Wendy.

unknownrebelbang · 21/07/2008 21:48

Our school charge 20p if a child needs to phone home (unless it's a school-related issue). I don't - generally speaking - have a problem with this, except on the one occasion DS1 asked to phone home because an after-school activity had been cancelled he just asked to phone home, rather than explain the reason for the call. He was told it would cost 20p and he had no cash on him (he doesn't usually take any money) so he walked away, and then sat outside school for an hour for me to collect him. (of course, this was one of the days he hadn't got his mobile with him).

SqueakyPop · 21/07/2008 21:38

In our school, confiscated phones are held in the school office and can be picked up by parents at the end of the week. We don't send letters.

roisin · 21/07/2008 21:34

In our school if a phone is seen it is confiscated, phone goes in the safe and a letter goes home (by snail mail). When the letter is returned, signed, by the parents that they understand school policy then the parents can collect the phone.

Students don't like it if they get their phone confiscated, but it doesn't stop them getting them out.

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SqueakyPop · 21/07/2008 21:28

Our school's policy is that phones have to be switched off in lockers during the school day. At the end of school, they have to be outside the building before making a call.

If they need to phone home during the day, they can call from the school office.

Parents tend to want their children to have phones, especially if they have to make their own way home or are doing after school activities. I don't think it is reasonable to have a blanket ban.

fizzbuzz · 21/07/2008 21:11

Oooh, I like that idea ecoworrier, they are just confiscated and returned at our school.

As a teacher I am totally sick of all the hassle they cause in school. On at pupils all the time about them, they are so sneaky with them, texting under desks etc...

I know they need them, but I wish we had one of those things they have in Japan, that automatically turns them off. Sometimes I feel my job is about hassles over mobile phones rather than teaching

ravenAK · 21/07/2008 20:59

It's a losing battle - they're just going to get cheaper. Is it just me is old enough to remember a similar kerfuffle when pocket calculators in the early '80s?

The thing is to enforce that you don't have extraneous stuff out in lessons - or your parent will be collecting your 'phone/mascara/Nuts at the end of the day/week/term.

I think your solution is most sensible Roisin (& the usual arrangement for year 7s where I teach) - an old mobile to be used for contacting home or playing with on journeys, fine.

ecoworrier · 21/07/2008 16:49

Most children at secondary school seem to have them, although I'd agree they're not really essential.

The official policy is that phones/MP3 players are not to be used or even seen during tutor time, during lessons or in corridors to/from lessons. They can however be used before and after school and at breaks and lunchtimes.

This seems a fair policy and generally works. Any contravention means the offending article is confiscated and PARENTS must collect it from reception - parents aren't usually very happy with this, so it acts as another deterrent!

unknownrebelbang · 21/07/2008 16:49

DS1's secondary allows the children to have phones on them, but switched off during lessons. Don't know how strict the school is on this policy tbh, but know that DS's is switched off (and often at home )

It has proved useful at times - when he's remembered it - when his plans have changed, because he has a 30 minute bus journey each way.

NigellaTheOriginal · 21/07/2008 16:48

DD (12)has a mobile she takes to school - she has to walk 2 miles there and back - it gives both her and me a bit of peace of mind knowing she (usually) has it with her.