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To keep pushing or to let go - GCSE

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Revitalift · 21/10/2026 12:55

DC is not naturally academic; he is in year 11 and has a tutor for two subjects, one is maths which he struggles with.

I keep reminding of the homework and daily practice which sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn’t. I booked a few extra sessions for the holidays but he complains he doesn’t have a free day. They have plenty of time lying in, etc.

I honestly don’t know if I should keep encouraging him or just let them be; hope for the best and get alternatives plans if they don’t get the results they need.

Just to add that he does engage with tutors and work well with them and I can see a smile of satisfaction when they get things done or do well after the session. He just doesn’t have self discipline or self motivation at the moment.

When doing work with him I do body doubling.

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makemineadecaf · 22/10/2026 07:48

Talk to him about alevel choices and show him admissions requirements in black and white on sixth form’s websites etc. Sometimes it’s a bit of the shock factor that is needed to get over the hump.

Fwiw, this was us last year. Dd is now year 12.

Revitalift · 22/10/2026 07:40

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 21:05

Is there a time of day where you can get him to sit down and do ten mins of one of the apps (I think maths genie has two votes so far!) - maybe at breakfast or just before dinner or something.

DD is a pianist and I always told her maths is like an instrument - if you don’t practice you don’t get any better

Thanks. Will ask him to download the app. I think there are lots of resources and opportunities to study if he really wants it.

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Revitalift · 22/10/2026 07:39

tomorrowfollowstoday · 21/10/2026 18:56

Keep pushing, but also schedule in a day off in half term.

Tell him often you are very proud of his efforts.

Will do

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Revitalift · 21/10/2026 21:54

Thank you all. Will keep persevering with maths. He is ok in other subjects.

Will sit down with him to look at Sixth form applications too so he knows what he needs. I will have an honest conversation with him.

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mondaytosunday · 21/10/2026 21:27

Push with the maths. My son got English but a 3 in maths but did manage to pass maths at his vocational college. A friend’s daughter has tried it four times now and has yet to pass maths and she can’t progress in her career til she does.
Is he ok with other subjects? Ideally he should pass five: English, Maths and three others.

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 21:19

Yeah it’s tricky - with DD I asked her how I can support her studying and if she needed me to be her clock etc. the only thing she’s asked is that I make sure she gets up in the morning!! Which tbf is a challenge…

Revitalift · 21/10/2026 21:11

He is on holidays this week so I asked him earlier a couple of times today until I gave up and decided to let him be.

I have told him a few times the importance of passing but not sure is sinking in. On the weekend he said that he will get his grades up. I told him I am confident they can do it if they put the work in; but as I said motivation goes up and down.

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Revitalift · 21/10/2026 21:06

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 21:05

Is there a time of day where you can get him to sit down and do ten mins of one of the apps (I think maths genie has two votes so far!) - maybe at breakfast or just before dinner or something.

DD is a pianist and I always told her maths is like an instrument - if you don’t practice you don’t get any better

We do it before dinner when he is up for it.

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BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 21:05

Is there a time of day where you can get him to sit down and do ten mins of one of the apps (I think maths genie has two votes so far!) - maybe at breakfast or just before dinner or something.

DD is a pianist and I always told her maths is like an instrument - if you don’t practice you don’t get any better

Revitalift · 21/10/2026 21:03

fridaynightzzz · 21/10/2026 18:58

DD missed most of secondary school, she only started to go back to maths consistently in year 11. At the start of the year she was predicted a 1, she got a 5 in the end. Only because she practiced everyday and went to every extra class. She didn’t do much 15/20 minutes but it was every day.
Her teacher said the small amount every day makes the most difference to passing.

She had friends who should have passed, did no practice etc and failed. One wasn’t allowed to stay for sixth form to do a levels and she was devastated. I don’t think she really understood how important it is just to pass because you still have to do it. She went to art college and had to do hours of maths lessons a week to make sure she passed.

Thank you; that is amazing. Well done to your daughter.

I keep telling DS. Little and often; I remind him but I can’t force him. The motivation has to come from him. It is frustrating.

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fridaynightzzz · 21/10/2026 18:58

DD missed most of secondary school, she only started to go back to maths consistently in year 11. At the start of the year she was predicted a 1, she got a 5 in the end. Only because she practiced everyday and went to every extra class. She didn’t do much 15/20 minutes but it was every day.
Her teacher said the small amount every day makes the most difference to passing.

She had friends who should have passed, did no practice etc and failed. One wasn’t allowed to stay for sixth form to do a levels and she was devastated. I don’t think she really understood how important it is just to pass because you still have to do it. She went to art college and had to do hours of maths lessons a week to make sure she passed.

tomorrowfollowstoday · 21/10/2026 18:56

Keep pushing, but also schedule in a day off in half term.

Tell him often you are very proud of his efforts.

Ohdearanotherone · 21/10/2026 18:38

like others have said keep pushing, my son is in year 11 and also has a tutor, he is engaging with this so far and it’s really helping, I feel so sorry for those who struggle in the maths as it’s so bloody hard! I am no help at all, and although I loathe having to pay for a tutor it is helping, fingers crossed they all pass, as I said for them I really feel for them. Good luck x

Hairyfairy01 · 21/10/2026 18:31

Does he know what he wants to do after GCSEs? You mention a levels, do his subjects choices require a 4 / 5 in Maths? Perhaps letting him see what he needs to get to the next stage will help motivate him. At the end of the day you are providing the opportunities (which is great) but he has to want it and be prepared to work for it.

Revitalift · 21/10/2026 18:18

Breeze67 · 21/10/2026 17:48

Unlike many people here, I would be inclined to just let it go. What percentage of students get below a Grade 4 in GCSE maths at your DS's school? The national fail rate is around 28%, showing how easily kids can fall behind. While GCSE Maths is fairly straightforward (far less challenging than the 11+!), it becomes a steep hill to climb when 'leaving it to him until Year 10' leaves you with less than a year to turn a Grade 2 into a 4. Getting a tutor is fine, but piling on pressure over results might backfire, risking both his mental health and your relationship with him.

I do agree with this about risking the relationship and his mental health. That is why I am careful of not pushing too much. I remind him, sit with him if he is up for it but don’t force it.

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BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 18:17

Try maths genie

i guess his peer group isn’t helping if they are struggling too

i understand how you are feeling though - it is very frustrating when you can see where they are going wrong but they just don’t listen!!

Revitalift · 21/10/2026 18:15

He is doing 2 hours 2 days per week with maths tutor. I also signed him for mathmo recently. One hour intervention at his school per week.

Maths resits at his school are high; lots of people have fallen behind.

He is not staying at his current school and was looking at Sixth Form options, including A levels a few weeks ago.

Motivation comes and goes.

I am trying to keep balance between supporting/ encourage him and let him be. I can’t be harassing him all the time. I do make sure he attends the tutoring though.

It is a tough one. I don’t think he realises how much work is involved in maths.

I will open a bottle of champagne if he gets a 4. It is often on my mind.

If it is something he wants he really works for it. Like getting into his current school which is selective but not on the academic sense.

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Breeze67 · 21/10/2026 17:48

Unlike many people here, I would be inclined to just let it go. What percentage of students get below a Grade 4 in GCSE maths at your DS's school? The national fail rate is around 28%, showing how easily kids can fall behind. While GCSE Maths is fairly straightforward (far less challenging than the 11+!), it becomes a steep hill to climb when 'leaving it to him until Year 10' leaves you with less than a year to turn a Grade 2 into a 4. Getting a tutor is fine, but piling on pressure over results might backfire, risking both his mental health and your relationship with him.

user293948849167 · 21/10/2026 17:18

I think keep going for maths and English because he will need them. The rest of them he should just do as well as he can.
Does he know what he wants to do next year? Just might give some motivation if he has a college course in mind with minimum gcse requirements

Toomanyminifigs · 21/10/2026 16:55

I've posted this on a couple of similar threads but the percentage of young people who pass maths GCSE on a re-take is shockingly low. It was 15% last summer.

Stats here: https://schoolsweek.co.uk/gcse-resits-2026-english-and-maths-pass-rates-fall-as-entries-surge/

I have known several young people stuck in the awful doom loop of failing maths GCSE retakes up to 5 times and never getting above a 3. If I were you, I would throw everything at trying to help him pass maths and English. As others have pointed out, 4s in both subjects opens so many more post-16 doors.

Also, depending on where your DC ends up, they could be looking at maybe 1 hour of maths support a week in a class with unmotivated students which obviously isn't going to help the pass rates.

My DS was on track for a 3 in Maths and he ended up on a 5 last summer. He really put the work in though as he was motivated.

Does your DC have any idea what they want to do post-16? That obviously helps. A friend of mine had an unmotivated DC who was looking at a 3 in Maths. They found a post-16 course they really wanted to do that needed a 4 and that did the job. (He did get his 4.)

Ultimately though as parents we can only do so much. It may be that he comes back to GCSEs at some point in the future. It's sensible of you to be helping him think of Plan A, B and C for results day.

YellowEllie13 · 21/10/2026 15:57

like others have said, I’d keep pushing with the maths. My daughter needed/responded well to an awards based approach when she was younger. I would reward time spent practicing or revising (not the grade achieved). She also liked apps like study bunny where she could track her time spent on a subject. Oh and final thing, she learned loads of maths from maths genie. She particularly liked short videos that worked through examples. She was a very unmotivated GCSE kid (did have undiagnosed ADHD) but found various things that worked for her and went from average in maths to now doing it at uni. Your son sounds capable but unmotivated like my DD. Find what motivates him even if it’s short term and only works some of the time. Maths is all about practice.

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 14:47

Is he a summer born?

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 14:47

She uses maths genie and first class maths

TeenToTwenties · 21/10/2026 14:30

One thing you and he need to be very clear on is what grades he needs for different next steps for y12, and he needs to have applications in / plan for
a) his preferred option
b) an option for if he gets his currently predicted grades
c) an option for if he drops lower than predicted grades

Which in this case is likely to be (A levels possibly???), a Level 3 course, a Level 2 course.

Going from a 2 to a 4 in maths is a big step because 3 is quite a wide grade boundary, but even getting a 2 to a 3 may open up some Level 2 courses that may otherwise be closed to him.

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 14:24

On the positive side - at least you know it isn’t an ability issue!!