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Non such/Chemsford County/Tonrbidge/Latymer/Colchester - any feedback of school to choose

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JustTealWriter · 17/10/2026 18:55

Hi, forunatately our daughters seems secured very good marks and seems will clear all cut off for all mentioned schools. We are not too confused to put order in CAF form. Our thinking is to put Non such and hope clear on 1st march then move in common catchment to tiffin. Tiffin round 1 she already cleared and preparing for 2nd. Anyways there is nothing to loose. As downwards we thinking to put Chelmsford followed by tonbridge. We don't have much knowledge about tonbridge and latymer and can't find parents who have direct feedback. Latymer we thinking to skip as we need to move unnecessary given other options are same and clear to get.

But if biggest confusion is non such above or chemsford.
Any parents with feedback on tonbridge and latymer

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JustTealWriter · Yesterday 13:33

oneofu · Yesterday 12:56

Hi OP,

Firstly, many congratulations on your DD’s fantastic results! 😊

I understand you may already have a list of preferred schools in mind, but there’s no harm in asking for suggestions and exploring different options. I’m also considering a few schools that my daughter has qualified for, so I can relate to how you must be feeling while weighing up the choices.

At the moment, Latymer is my first preference, mainly because of its proximity to central London.

I was also curious to know where you got the information that 35 OOC girls scored 423. Is there a forum or a source where this information has been shared? It would be really helpful to understand this better. My DD score 400, so wondering if we have any chances for Tonbridge (TOGS) or Dartford grammar school for girls.

its on kent council, its open information.

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oneofu · Yesterday 12:56

JustTealWriter · 20/10/2026 11:17

Really helpful. Yes talking about tonbridge girls grammer school only. But as tonbridge is little far and remote so prefer as safe option below non such and chemsford, though she score 423 full marks in kent and I see only 35 girls out of catchment area this year got 423 so coming to 30 places looks possible.

Hi OP,

Firstly, many congratulations on your DD’s fantastic results! 😊

I understand you may already have a list of preferred schools in mind, but there’s no harm in asking for suggestions and exploring different options. I’m also considering a few schools that my daughter has qualified for, so I can relate to how you must be feeling while weighing up the choices.

At the moment, Latymer is my first preference, mainly because of its proximity to central London.

I was also curious to know where you got the information that 35 OOC girls scored 423. Is there a forum or a source where this information has been shared? It would be really helpful to understand this better. My DD score 400, so wondering if we have any chances for Tonbridge (TOGS) or Dartford grammar school for girls.

JustTealWriter · 20/10/2026 11:17

Enko · 20/10/2026 08:02

I have close friends with experience of Nonsuch and TOGS (really important to make the difference between Tonbridge school and the Tonbridge grammar school)

Both school was spoken of highly and the girls thrives in school.

I would second visiting the schools and seeing how you feel about them as you walk around. You have missed TOGs open days for this year. Unsure about NonSuch. As you mention year 5 I suspect you have time for visits.
I would look closer at the admission criteria though

Also worth nothing there is little in it between the 2

National Rankings (2026 League Tables)

• 13th: Nonsuch High School for Girls (Cheam) — GCSE (% 9/8/7): 82.8% | A-Level A*–B: 89.2%
• 14th: Tonbridge Grammar School (Tonbridge) — GCSE (% 9/8/7): 77.6% | A-Level A*–B: 91.5

Really helpful. Yes talking about tonbridge girls grammer school only. But as tonbridge is little far and remote so prefer as safe option below non such and chemsford, though she score 423 full marks in kent and I see only 35 girls out of catchment area this year got 423 so coming to 30 places looks possible.

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LIZS · 20/10/2026 08:49

Enko · 20/10/2026 08:02

I have close friends with experience of Nonsuch and TOGS (really important to make the difference between Tonbridge school and the Tonbridge grammar school)

Both school was spoken of highly and the girls thrives in school.

I would second visiting the schools and seeing how you feel about them as you walk around. You have missed TOGs open days for this year. Unsure about NonSuch. As you mention year 5 I suspect you have time for visits.
I would look closer at the admission criteria though

Also worth nothing there is little in it between the 2

National Rankings (2026 League Tables)

• 13th: Nonsuch High School for Girls (Cheam) — GCSE (% 9/8/7): 82.8% | A-Level A*–B: 89.2%
• 14th: Tonbridge Grammar School (Tonbridge) — GCSE (% 9/8/7): 77.6% | A-Level A*–B: 91.5

Assume op dd is year 6 having just taken 11+ so with CAF due next week there is limited opportunity to visit beforehand, especially with half term. Did they visit some if not all for the exam sitting?

Enko · 20/10/2026 08:02

I have close friends with experience of Nonsuch and TOGS (really important to make the difference between Tonbridge school and the Tonbridge grammar school)

Both school was spoken of highly and the girls thrives in school.

I would second visiting the schools and seeing how you feel about them as you walk around. You have missed TOGs open days for this year. Unsure about NonSuch. As you mention year 5 I suspect you have time for visits.
I would look closer at the admission criteria though

Also worth nothing there is little in it between the 2

National Rankings (2026 League Tables)

• 13th: Nonsuch High School for Girls (Cheam) — GCSE (% 9/8/7): 82.8% | A-Level A*–B: 89.2%
• 14th: Tonbridge Grammar School (Tonbridge) — GCSE (% 9/8/7): 77.6% | A-Level A*–B: 91.5

MrMurphysComeuppance · 20/10/2026 08:00

MarchingFrogs · 18/10/2026 11:42

I assume you visited them

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I assume that you don't have a lot of experience of the wacky world of 11+ tourism postingGrin.

A goodly proportion have no experience of the schools in question other than having taken their DC there on the day of the test...

As a pp has noted, @JustTealWriter , if you're in East London, your DD could just get the train for CCHS, presumably, if you don't fancy moving to the city? Unless you seriously can pack up and move, lock, lock and barrel into the CCHS priority admissions area and provide the required proof, by Saturday 31st, you've missed the boat for being considered IC anyway, and if your confidence that your DD's score would get her one of the 'all other applicants, regardless of place of residence' places - which is what that category is, not 'OOC specific' - isn't misplaced, this would give you much more time to find somewhere nice, if you did decide to move.

Long-distance commuter pupils dozing off in lessons and taking zero interest in participating in extracurricular activities were some of the issues prompting the Chelmsford grammar schools to introduce a priority area back in ?2013, but if you are within easy distance of Liverpool St / Stratford or any of the intermediate stations on the line to , your DD might not have a much longer journey, time-wise, than some reliant on buses from the outer edges of the priority area.

CCHSG would be another kettle of fish, although there are people who swear (or at least used to - haven't seen the claim much in more recent years) that travelling to the Colchester grammar schools from well within the M25 never takes their DC any longer than an hour, never any hold-ups on the A12 or local roads for them, unlike for any of us lesser mortals who have ever had to drive into Colchester at school drop-off time.

I've taken an hour or more to get to Colchester Grammar from a village ten miles away on a bad day. Even on a good day it was at least 35-40 mins in rush hour.

I feel sorry for these kids who are expected to do a commute that is similar to an adult going into central London from somewhere like Colchester. It's where crazy parental ambition and the kudos of having their child at one of the country's super selective grammars absolutely trumps common sense and concern for their wellbeing. Either move house or send them somewhere else. They have enough pressure at these schools without a monumental commute as well.

JustTealWriter · 20/10/2026 07:46

Wonderknicks · 19/10/2026 21:05

Would you really send a child to a school you've never visited on the random say so of strangers on the internet? If your child is as bright as you say she is, she will do well at whatever school you send her to. It doesn't need to be a grammar school. They aren't magical.places & the results mostly depend on their intake.

Life is long journey and school can't define it I know. Each path choosen with shape future. But as parent wanted to increase probability of success in their future and don't think anything wrong in there. We know area and visited Chemsford and sutton Colchester. But do by area how can you judge school. School teachers and facilities info other parents who have kids there know better and that info I expected as feedback. Sometimes stranger gives neutral feedback than known ones.

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Breeze67 · 19/10/2026 22:04

Wonderknicks · 19/10/2026 21:05

Would you really send a child to a school you've never visited on the random say so of strangers on the internet? If your child is as bright as you say she is, she will do well at whatever school you send her to. It doesn't need to be a grammar school. They aren't magical.places & the results mostly depend on their intake.

Both Chelmsford and Nonsuch have fantastic reputations that go well beyond just their exam results, especially compared to a typical local state school. Since the OP's DD is academically strong, I would bet she can't go wrong with either.
At the end of the day, most families simply choose based on location. For instance, in the Sutton exams, when a girl qualifies for both Nonsuch and Wallington, picking the closer one is generally considered the most sensible option. If location isn't a factor, like in the OP's case, sending DC "randomly" to one of several schools of similar calibre makes more sense than it first appears.

Wonderknicks · 19/10/2026 21:05

Would you really send a child to a school you've never visited on the random say so of strangers on the internet? If your child is as bright as you say she is, she will do well at whatever school you send her to. It doesn't need to be a grammar school. They aren't magical.places & the results mostly depend on their intake.

JustTealWriter · 18/10/2026 19:44

Yellowchair1 · 18/10/2026 16:21

As an aside, how did your daughter find the Chelmsford FSCE test? As far as I can see it is so different to the other 11+ exams and much harder to prep for. We are just starting our prep now

We did started journey from year 5 only (i see people started from 3/4) but luckily she is able to grasp and we have sometime to spend with her. But we never prepared her for FSCE. Just we days before exam we done some history/geography and other topics videos brush up from bbc bitsize. (though not sure it helped her in paper)

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Breeze67 · 18/10/2026 16:33

CarshaltonMum · 18/10/2026 14:15

My question was a (probably too subtle) pointed comment about why on earth you would apply for a bunch of random schools you have never visited, just because they are grammars! But yes, the 11+ is bonkers.

DD has sat for Nonsuch (not Non Such) and Wallington and we had a clear preference between the 2 schools when we went to the open evenings. But having never been to Chelmsford, I couldn't tell you how Nonsuch compares.

Knowing your own school preference is obviously good, but the caveat is that open days could still mislead you and results could disappoint you. On the other hand, just like OP, randomly shotgunning grammars across London and asking random people on MN without needing to be deeply committed might make DC less stressful and still end up working out very well. Ironic, but true.

Yellowchair1 · 18/10/2026 16:21

As an aside, how did your daughter find the Chelmsford FSCE test? As far as I can see it is so different to the other 11+ exams and much harder to prep for. We are just starting our prep now

CarshaltonMum · 18/10/2026 14:15

MarchingFrogs · 18/10/2026 11:42

I assume you visited them

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I assume that you don't have a lot of experience of the wacky world of 11+ tourism postingGrin.

A goodly proportion have no experience of the schools in question other than having taken their DC there on the day of the test...

As a pp has noted, @JustTealWriter , if you're in East London, your DD could just get the train for CCHS, presumably, if you don't fancy moving to the city? Unless you seriously can pack up and move, lock, lock and barrel into the CCHS priority admissions area and provide the required proof, by Saturday 31st, you've missed the boat for being considered IC anyway, and if your confidence that your DD's score would get her one of the 'all other applicants, regardless of place of residence' places - which is what that category is, not 'OOC specific' - isn't misplaced, this would give you much more time to find somewhere nice, if you did decide to move.

Long-distance commuter pupils dozing off in lessons and taking zero interest in participating in extracurricular activities were some of the issues prompting the Chelmsford grammar schools to introduce a priority area back in ?2013, but if you are within easy distance of Liverpool St / Stratford or any of the intermediate stations on the line to , your DD might not have a much longer journey, time-wise, than some reliant on buses from the outer edges of the priority area.

CCHSG would be another kettle of fish, although there are people who swear (or at least used to - haven't seen the claim much in more recent years) that travelling to the Colchester grammar schools from well within the M25 never takes their DC any longer than an hour, never any hold-ups on the A12 or local roads for them, unlike for any of us lesser mortals who have ever had to drive into Colchester at school drop-off time.

My question was a (probably too subtle) pointed comment about why on earth you would apply for a bunch of random schools you have never visited, just because they are grammars! But yes, the 11+ is bonkers.

DD has sat for Nonsuch (not Non Such) and Wallington and we had a clear preference between the 2 schools when we went to the open evenings. But having never been to Chelmsford, I couldn't tell you how Nonsuch compares.

JustTealWriter · 18/10/2026 13:16

Yellowchair1 · 18/10/2026 07:41

The city of Chelmsford is nice enough and the school is excellent...however as pp have said, it would be quiye different to living in Cheam which is in london. Where do you need to be for work etc?

we work in central london and travel couple of days. so i think manageable 1 hour commute from sutton or 40 min from chemsford.

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JustTealWriter · 18/10/2026 11:55

MarchingFrogs · 18/10/2026 11:42

I assume you visited them

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I assume that you don't have a lot of experience of the wacky world of 11+ tourism postingGrin.

A goodly proportion have no experience of the schools in question other than having taken their DC there on the day of the test...

As a pp has noted, @JustTealWriter , if you're in East London, your DD could just get the train for CCHS, presumably, if you don't fancy moving to the city? Unless you seriously can pack up and move, lock, lock and barrel into the CCHS priority admissions area and provide the required proof, by Saturday 31st, you've missed the boat for being considered IC anyway, and if your confidence that your DD's score would get her one of the 'all other applicants, regardless of place of residence' places - which is what that category is, not 'OOC specific' - isn't misplaced, this would give you much more time to find somewhere nice, if you did decide to move.

Long-distance commuter pupils dozing off in lessons and taking zero interest in participating in extracurricular activities were some of the issues prompting the Chelmsford grammar schools to introduce a priority area back in ?2013, but if you are within easy distance of Liverpool St / Stratford or any of the intermediate stations on the line to , your DD might not have a much longer journey, time-wise, than some reliant on buses from the outer edges of the priority area.

CCHSG would be another kettle of fish, although there are people who swear (or at least used to - haven't seen the claim much in more recent years) that travelling to the Colchester grammar schools from well within the M25 never takes their DC any longer than an hour, never any hold-ups on the A12 or local roads for them, unlike for any of us lesser mortals who have ever had to drive into Colchester at school drop-off time.

This is really helpful and detailed one.. We are in rented apartment and don't have much expectations from area apart from being commute to central london being easy, area is safe for daughter to walk or take bus distance to school. That's were we see non such and Chemsford county fair similarly. Tonbridge we really don't have info much. And Colchester and tonbridge are our safe last bet. CSSE she has 45 marks more than last year admission cut off and kent she score perfect 423. So we not fully able to guage 1st preference as non such or Chemsford county.

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MarchingFrogs · 18/10/2026 11:42

I assume you visited them

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I assume that you don't have a lot of experience of the wacky world of 11+ tourism postingGrin.

A goodly proportion have no experience of the schools in question other than having taken their DC there on the day of the test...

As a pp has noted, @JustTealWriter , if you're in East London, your DD could just get the train for CCHS, presumably, if you don't fancy moving to the city? Unless you seriously can pack up and move, lock, lock and barrel into the CCHS priority admissions area and provide the required proof, by Saturday 31st, you've missed the boat for being considered IC anyway, and if your confidence that your DD's score would get her one of the 'all other applicants, regardless of place of residence' places - which is what that category is, not 'OOC specific' - isn't misplaced, this would give you much more time to find somewhere nice, if you did decide to move.

Long-distance commuter pupils dozing off in lessons and taking zero interest in participating in extracurricular activities were some of the issues prompting the Chelmsford grammar schools to introduce a priority area back in ?2013, but if you are within easy distance of Liverpool St / Stratford or any of the intermediate stations on the line to , your DD might not have a much longer journey, time-wise, than some reliant on buses from the outer edges of the priority area.

CCHSG would be another kettle of fish, although there are people who swear (or at least used to - haven't seen the claim much in more recent years) that travelling to the Colchester grammar schools from well within the M25 never takes their DC any longer than an hour, never any hold-ups on the A12 or local roads for them, unlike for any of us lesser mortals who have ever had to drive into Colchester at school drop-off time.

Yellowchair1 · 18/10/2026 11:16

Chelmsford sounds like it would work well if you are east london based...it's near the ststion so lots of girls travel in by train

Breeze67 · 18/10/2026 10:38

CarshaltonMum · 18/10/2026 08:13

Honestly they are all great schools, don't get too caught up in which is absolute best. I assume you visited them, so must have some views. I would then decide where you want to live. Even if you don't have work constraints, look at rent in the areas, how multicultural they are, where you would actually live and what distance your DD would have to travel to school etc.

No chance for Tiffin though. It appears OP lives outside of its catchment (designated area) now.

CarshaltonMum · 18/10/2026 08:13

Honestly they are all great schools, don't get too caught up in which is absolute best. I assume you visited them, so must have some views. I would then decide where you want to live. Even if you don't have work constraints, look at rent in the areas, how multicultural they are, where you would actually live and what distance your DD would have to travel to school etc.

Phineyj · 18/10/2026 08:05

Do you not have any constraints at all as adults regarding where to live? Or preferences? TOGS is the only one I know and it's a lovely school, but I wouldn't want to live in Tonbridge!

Yellowchair1 · 18/10/2026 07:41

The city of Chelmsford is nice enough and the school is excellent...however as pp have said, it would be quiye different to living in Cheam which is in london. Where do you need to be for work etc?

JustTealWriter · 17/10/2026 22:37

Yellowchair1 · 17/10/2026 20:59

Chelmsford has it's own exam...has your DD done this?

Yes.. she should clear out of catchment seat so we will move post 1st March only. So need feedback as both areas are fine for us

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JustTealWriter · 17/10/2026 22:34

ThreeRandomThings · 17/10/2026 19:15

Where do you live and have you looked at the commute for each? My DC are primary aged (we are SW London so Tiffin and Nonsuch are options for us) and I know that DC travel much further for secondary but Chelmsford to Tiffin is a massive range. What are the transport connections like?

Thanks a lot but I was talking about tonbridge girls to be clear. We live in east london and rented only so no issues moving to any area.

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CarshaltonMum · 17/10/2026 21:37

Your post is hard to understand. If you are putting Nonsuch first, why are you moving into the Tiffin area? You will struggle to get people to compare these schools, as most only apply in 1 or 2 areas. Assuming you are considering moving, I would decide where you most want to live. Chelmsford will be quite different to Cheam/Kingston.