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Critique these GCSEs please

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GCSEQuestion2288 · 15/07/2026 17:34

Looking for some opinions on these GCSEs…..not enough academics?

triple science
English lit
english lang
maths
art
photography
music

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MeetMeOnTheCorner · 15/07/2026 21:25

My DD didn’t do music GCSE but kept on singing and doing the grades in musical theatre and ABRSM singing as well as the theory which didn’t take long to get grade 5.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 15/07/2026 21:16

After your update about Music, I suggest they start taking grades. It may be best if they did a different GCSE but add in the music lessons and grading.

Geography might be a good one to throw in the mix.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 15/07/2026 21:15

@hahabahbag My dd sang and did grade 5 theory and she can sight sing music. They just have to train the voice like an instrument! Guitar players also read music! However they need teaching!

MiddleAgedDread · 15/07/2026 21:09

Given your update I would definitely advise dropping the music! if they have done music theory and formal lessons to at least grade 5 they’re going to struggle.

Heronwatcher · 15/07/2026 21:08

Yes for music he’s going to need to get pretty good on his guitar quite quickly! I’d say he’ll definitely need proper lessons asap- because in effect you’ve only got just over 1.5 years before the practical exams start.

I wouldn’t have said photography and art is an especially good idea- I think one of the humanities would be better (geography has an element of science to it) but it’s not a disaster.

Talkingfrog · 15/07/2026 21:06

Does your DC know what they want to do after GCSEs?

hahabahbag · 15/07/2026 21:04

You need to be the equivalent of grade 6 music to reach a grade (before they switched to numbers) in my DD’s class several failed who played guitar or sung because they simply didn’t have theory or higher level skills

hahabahbag · 15/07/2026 21:02

I wouldn’t do art and photography because they are very time consuming portfolio wise, add history or geography

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 15/07/2026 21:00

It’s really hard doing 3 sets subjects and a huge mistake. You don’t need photography as GCSE to do the A level. Just the Art is fine, and dc who understand what’s needed can work affectingly and not obsess about perfection. Art is far more useful than photography (eg for architecture )
and photography is great at A level if well taught, as is art, but dc only need art at GCSE.

Music - I’d say dc simply isn’t good enough. Play for fun. Photography and music should be replaced by a MFL and either geography/history/RE. Others aren’t necessary at GCSE. The subjects above keep far more A levels open.

Id agree with the essay avoidance strategy and the hard yards with a MFL. The existing choices are very unbalanced beyond sciences and English.

badboss2020 · 15/07/2026 20:45

Music is incredibly difficult if you don’t play an instrument to a good level.
art and photography are SO much work. I would strongly suggest one or the other.

Talkingfrog · 15/07/2026 20:35

BeachgRunning · 15/07/2026 20:15

I’d be worried they do not have the music ability to achieve gcse music. G5 theory is equivalent to gcse level they need to be able to perform and collaborate and compose a piece.

Depends on exam board. I am guessing that most still require a collaboration performance, but it has been removed from the new wjec syllabus.

They can do a collaboration but can also do just solo/accompanied performances. We were surprised. The violin teacher was even more surprised.

mondaytosunday · 15/07/2026 20:32

Could swap music out for history/geography/MFL as I assume they play an instrument and does the exams? They can also do photography as part of the Art GCSE. Though of course depends on the A levels or equivalent they are aiming for . If looking to go into photography taking it at A level would suffice.
My DD was going to do a creative degree and any art school she looked at didn’t care about GCSEs (or really A levels), it was the portfolio that had to be great (exception being somewhere like Edinburgh or Ruskin). But unless they want to do a humanities degree like History it won’t limit them if they do three creative subjects.

JassyRadlett · 15/07/2026 20:30

I was about to say it looks ok until I read your update on music.

I'd generally be in favour of more coursework-based subjects just because of the ability to spread the work a little more but music is going to be such a slog without solid performance and composition/theory which combined make up 60% of the grade.

Our department won't take kids who don't have solid performance ability already. Can you start your child on formal lessons? But even so it sounds like it may be disproportionately time-consuming compared to the kids who are entering the course already at a Grade 4 or 5 level and with a solid theoretical background.

Nousernameideaaga · 15/07/2026 20:28

GCSEQuestion2288 · 15/07/2026 19:00

Thanks all. School has approved the options. Child “didn’t want” to do a language or humanities. Seems there is no issue in general with the options though.

That’s good.
Absolutely no point in making kids do subjects they just won’t enjoy.

My DD is delighted to wave goodbye to geography forever

ElizaSchuyler · 15/07/2026 20:26

At ds’s school he was the only student who got a Grade 8 for music - notably he was the only one with Grade 5 theory.

there were some very talented singers & self taught instrumentalists but without the theory knowledge they didn’t get above Grade 4/5. Which is fine if that’s the general level.

HedyPrism · 15/07/2026 20:24

Is it definitely GCSE music and not BTech Music Performance?
I agree with others; swap music for either MFL, Business, Sociology, Psychology or Rx, geography, history.

Spacestory · 15/07/2026 20:24

Oh gosh from that update you need to ditch music. Child should be grade 3+ level and able to read treble and bass clef. Guitar tabs irrelevant.

pick something else.

Minasama · 15/07/2026 20:23

At our school they have to do either a modern language or history/geography.
I don’t think that is good enough since I was able to do two foreign languages AND history or geography was compulsory.

My daughter has been able to take sociology instead of history or geography and I don’t think that is good enough - I don’t see how you can call yourself an educated person if you gave up history, geography and advanced science at 13/14.
Also only one language is a real shame - both French and German have been invaluable in my career.

However - back to your question, if your child is not expected to pass in more traditional academic subjects or is particularly talented at music or art, it’s probably better use of time to do these subjects. If they are academic though it’s a shame not to get this education at school.

stichguru · 15/07/2026 20:23

GCSEQuestion2288 · 15/07/2026 17:34

Looking for some opinions on these GCSEs…..not enough academics?

triple science
English lit
english lang
maths
art
photography
music

Is you DC really seriously wanting to get into the arts/music field for college/degree/work? If so, then yes they look good, although they are a terribly time consuming choice as the art/photography/music will all have large practical projects. If DC is NOT seriously interested in this side of things, I'd pick up one or two less time consuming, more traditional academic subjects, instead of one or two of art/photography/music as they will all have enormously time consuming courseworks, and not be particularly relevant to more academic A-levels, degree etc later on.

CatatonicLadybug · 15/07/2026 20:18

GCSEQuestion2288 · 15/07/2026 19:47

No formal music lessons. Self taught guitar at a basic level but no “proper” knowledge. Certainly no theory exams etc.

Oh heavens, DC is in for an absolute shocker with GCSE Music.

If that's the plan, I would get the theory books now because guitar tabs are not going to cut it. Make sure treble and bass clef reading are solid as well as reading and counting rhythms, and get music terminology solid (all the stuff that's in Italian!) because it is honestly quite a challenging course without having at least one instrument to about grade 4 level. I have taught it and it's not impossible with less, but it is very challenging and will take a lot of dedication. Getting ahead of the game would be better than falling behind early, because there is a lot of building of skills that don't appear in other subjects.

A bit like art, it's not enough to be able to play it or make up a melody, you'll need to be able to explain how you did it and why it works, in terms of music theory.

BeachgRunning · 15/07/2026 20:15

I’d be worried they do not have the music ability to achieve gcse music. G5 theory is equivalent to gcse level they need to be able to perform and collaborate and compose a piece.

Talkingfrog · 15/07/2026 20:10

GCSEQuestion2288 · 15/07/2026 19:47

No formal music lessons. Self taught guitar at a basic level but no “proper” knowledge. Certainly no theory exams etc.

Check with the exam board. I think they are supposed to perform pieces that are equivalent of grade 3 or above. They can perform a piece that is lower than that but could get a mark reduction to reflect an easier piece.
Having said that, DC does music and I don't think many have had formal tuition.
I would expect the music teacher to say if they thought that the standard of performance they were at was going to be an issue.

ApricotRow · 15/07/2026 20:07

@GCSEQuestion2288based on your update I’d rule out music.

GCSEQuestion2288 · 15/07/2026 19:47

clary · 15/07/2026 19:33

Hmmm

I am normally a big cheerleader for "do the GCSEs you want as long as you have the core subjects" on the basis that you will do better at subjects you enjoy.

BUT in this case I would say that that is an awful lot of CW and controlled assessment. Art GCSE is known as a big thief of time, and music to some extent is the same (tho I appreciate that if what you love to do is art and music then it may not feel like an issue). Photography also requires development of a portfolio. DD took music and had to put in a lor of work for what ended up as her worst grade. Does the YP already take music lessons @GCSEQuestion2288? What kind of level?

I would be tempted to suggest swapping either art or photog for a more exam-based, less portfolio-heavy subject. MFL possible at all? that has IMHO a fairly straightforward suite of exams which don't involve huge tracts of end-of-year-11 learning of facts and writing of essays, if that's an issue (looking at you history). Or geography? Or yes RE/Phil and ethics?

There's no need to take photog GCSE in order to do the A level. Or music really as long as you are covering theory and grades in lessons. Art GCSE is useful if planning to pursue tho.

As others rightly say, these choices make MFL and I suspect geography A level impossible, and history or something like sociology or psychology (where evidence of success in an essay-based subject is often needed) less likely. But ofc that may not be an issue for the YP (presumably not tbh).

No formal music lessons. Self taught guitar at a basic level but no “proper” knowledge. Certainly no theory exams etc.

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hyggetyggedotorg · 15/07/2026 19:38

Art is hard. My DD is just finishing Year 10 & has loved art since she was tiny. It was her favourite subject up until Year 9.

Art GCSE is a different ball game (she’s doing Fine Art) and struggling. It’s the only subject she’s struggling with & she’s gone from loving art lessons to hating them.

If she could choose her GCSEs again, she’d pick something else.

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