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Should we move secondary’s?

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hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 07:03

Hi all, looking for advice on moving secondary’s.

DD is finishing year 7 and things haven’t gone the way she’d hoped. Extremely long story short, we didn’t pick her local school as she has some additional needs due to autism. She hasn’t got an ECHP and is scoring working well beyond across the board so is thriving academically. However, the support emotionally and socially that we were promised hasn’t really materialised. Ontop of this, she hasn’t made any friends. She has a few connections, but tends to just get picked up and put down as needed. The friend she started this school with soon dropped her and now is nasty to her frequently so this has been a sense of deep grief for her too.

All this said, we are going to put her on the waiting list at our local school and hope a place will materialise quite fast. Whilst it isn’t renowned for SEN or pastoral support (which is why we didn’t pick it) it is a 10 min walk from our house (I am currently doing 2 hours driving a day getting her to and from school) and she knows a few girls there (not really friends but people she texts now snd again). As she isn’t getting the Sen support anyway, I think we’re ready to give up on current school. We are not unhappy with the school and I think it’s better in lots of ways, but is it worth it?

DD is warming to the idea of moving now she’s looked through the website and there are some rules that would suit her better. But I think we both fear things would be worse and we’re scared of the change. We also know that there’s a high chance she wont find her tribe at new school either, but at least she would be close and able to walk and have some independence. Both schools are good academically speaking.

WWYD?

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hydrangeasandroses · 17/06/2026 09:03

Have been told there’s quite a bit of mobility at the moment (around 8 + places a year) so am hopeful that this means we won’t be waiting too long. Things are escalating at the current school and dd just wants to go now

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hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 13:04

@scoopofmintchocchipicecream we do live in an area where a lot of people come for work and have noticed a high turnover in primary as parents get new jobs and move away. However, the school is a popular one and so it could be anything from next week to next year, which is tough mentally, but that’s life!

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hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 09:12

I think we have basically made the decision to move her now (unless when we are offered a place and meet with them they aren’t good at all) as she has had enough and wants a fresh start closer to home. We are second on the list. Is it too optimistic to think by some fluke we’d end up with a place being offered for year 8? I wonder if there’s more movement at this time of year and hoping 1st place no longer wants their place maybe? I guess we could be waiting years 😓

im sad because I put my heart and soul into the secondary school decision. I did everything I could. Met with our primary sendco for her views, met secondary to discuss needs etc and essentially I think I got it wrong. She hasn’t suffered academically but I guess I’ve lost all confidence in making the decision now to move her.

This really depends on the school/area. Some schools have a much higher turnover than others. At some schools, places rarely come up. At others, several every year do.

hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 12:39

@PlainSkyr thank you for such an insightful reply. And thank you for sharing your experience, which really gives me hope. Let’s hope that now the decision is almost made that I’m not on the waiting list indefinitely!

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hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 12:37

@Araminta1003 thank you so much for your help and reply. Hopefully we are not now stuck years on the waiting list! Next worry engaged!!!

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PlainSkyr · 16/06/2026 12:26

I can see how your DD must be struggling, many ND children have similar issues. And teens is a brutal age where you fit in or you get left out. Silver lining is - Atleast she’s not being bullied.
I have a ND DD and in your shoes I’d move for the following reasons:

  • being closer means greater opportunities to engage with the school - extra clubs, competitions, volunteering etc. At some point, somewhere she might find a likeminded soul.
  • you can engage more with the school which will mean you build relations with the school team, and lobby better for your daughters support
  • greater chance of knowing families that use the school and opportunities for out of school mixing
  • time, energy saving and reducing frustration of travel multiplied by the issues you are facing

I’m seeing fewer losses of leaving the current school. You say you have overthought (I’m in the same boat) the year7 decision and afraid to choose again; this time be led by your daughter and let her own the decision.

In my experience year 9 is when the ‘real’ friendships landed. My DD made no good friends in year 7,8 (ND too!) but excellent ones in year 9,10 (she had to learn to change her social skills and speak ‘right’ to fit in) and the group is going strong even though all are in different Unis.

hope the WL moves for you 🤞🏻

Araminta1003 · 16/06/2026 12:25

I think you are right OP. Also the extra exhaustion from a long journey will likely hit an autistic child even harder
Good luck with the move.
I have several friends with autistic girls who don’t leave the house anymore at all and you are best staying ahead of it, if it isn’t working. Having said that one of my friends autistic DD has an online best friend and they bake in parallel, knit, sew and do a book club online together. Whatever you can find in terms of contact that works socially take it. Her mum is happy when she goes in the garden.
If your DD is doing clubs that is a great sign.

hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 09:39

@Araminta1003 yes that’s exactly right. There isn’t anything like that at my dds currently school. She goes to a special area to eat her lunch but hasn’t found anyone to connect with, and no other autistic children with similar interests to her. I accept that some of that is just bad luck and another cohort could have been far more successful. We gave it the best chance and what felt like the best school, but for what has now transpired, I don’t think she’s getting enough out of it to merit the journey

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Araminta1003 · 16/06/2026 09:28

@hydrangeasandroses - DS is in year 7 and the autistic kids in his school have their own clubs and seem very friendly with each other. Our local music trust is also full of autistic teens, playing in orchestras together. I am not saying it isn’t still tricky for the parents but they mostly have friends via common shared interest. There will be some girls in every area just sadly a lot get diagnosed later or not at all.

hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 09:24

@Araminta1003 there aren’t any where we live. I have looked, enquired etc. DD has no problem muddling along with other children, they’ve nothing against her, but do not wish to socialise with her. We are focussing on getting school right at the moment

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Araminta1003 · 16/06/2026 09:16

Have you tried to meet other local families with autistic teen girls?

hydrangeasandroses · 16/06/2026 09:12

I think we have basically made the decision to move her now (unless when we are offered a place and meet with them they aren’t good at all) as she has had enough and wants a fresh start closer to home. We are second on the list. Is it too optimistic to think by some fluke we’d end up with a place being offered for year 8? I wonder if there’s more movement at this time of year and hoping 1st place no longer wants their place maybe? I guess we could be waiting years 😓

im sad because I put my heart and soul into the secondary school decision. I did everything I could. Met with our primary sendco for her views, met secondary to discuss needs etc and essentially I think I got it wrong. She hasn’t suffered academically but I guess I’ve lost all confidence in making the decision now to move her.

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scoopofmintchocchipicecream · 11/06/2026 18:29

I agree with @Toomanyminifigs. Request an EHCNA now. On their website, IPSEA has a model letter you can use. Nothing has changed yet. The law has not yet changed at all. LAs must not base decisions based on the white paper. They must follow the current law.

Even without an EHCP, the school must make their best endeavours to meet DD’s SEN and they must make reasonable adjustments. If that isn’t happening and you aren’t getting anywhere with the SENCO, go higher up. If you have the contact details of DD’s class teachers, email them directly too. Don’t rely on information being passed on.

Toomanyminifigs · 11/06/2026 18:19

Academic success is great but that's not only what school is about is it? The social side of it is just as important for DC. It's vital that they feel they belong to the school community and it teaches them such important life skills. It's not good enough for schools to fob parents off and use academic ability as their only measure of achievement.
I appreciate there's only so much schools can do but it sounds like her school is doing nothing!

hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 18:02

@rellylivesthere yes, we will definitely visit when we are offered a place. We know the school well and have looked around it before (and it’s probably where my youngest will go!) but we will ensure a meeting with the SENDCo

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hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 18:01

@Toomanyminifigs ha! Yes I would agree that in some ways she is young for her age, and in others, far more mature than her peers. It’s a tricky place for her to exist. We have so many comments along the lines of ‘she doesn’t seem very autistic to me’ etc and her academic excellence is a constant barrier to us being able to emphasise the issues. It’s a real ‘she’s fine in school though’ situation.

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postitnot · 11/06/2026 17:57

If she can walk to the local school will there be
more chance of seeing other girls after school and at the weekend? It's hard when your social life depends on getting lifts from parents!

rellylivesthere · 11/06/2026 17:49

Could you visit the local school with her and see if she likes the atmosphere?

Toomanyminifigs · 11/06/2026 17:47

The SEN white paper hasn't become law yet and may be subject to change/amendments anyway as there's a lot of anger about the proposals. I would say this is even more reason to put in an application as soon as possible.

In my DS's EHCP for example, he attends a weekly small group with a SALT working on conversation skills, turn taking, etc. He also has access to an ELSA once a week where he can talk through his worries. The SALT is lovely and she's tried to find other likeminded students for him to work with.
My DS has a different profile to your DD though in that he doesn't actually want friends! He's very dismissive of his peers.
I'm just giving you an example of what can be included in an EHCP. As it's a legally binding document, you have more 'power' to hold the school and LA to account.

That aside, the school should be doing more to support your DD. As you say, she can't be the first student they've had who has struggled with social issues! I've just seen your update about her personality which I was going to ask about. It's very common for DC with ASD to be 'young' for their age - and for friendship difficulties to become more of an issue as NT kids hit puberty.

My DS is a real rule-follower too. He reminds teachers if they've forgotten to set homework so you can imagine how popular that makes him!

hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 17:45

@rellylivesthere it isn’t 2 hours to get her there, it’s around 35 mins. But obviously I’m doing that there and back, twice a day. Something I would have been happy to continue doing if she was thriving. But your point is a good one and what we’re thinking. If her experience is going to be the same regardless, why not be close!

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hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 17:42

@baddayformeredith thanks for commenting. It’s good to hear firsthand experiences.

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baddayformeredith · 11/06/2026 17:41

100% move her. We had a very similar situation to yours with a DD that sounds like yours. We have just moved her (year10) and she is so much happier. I wish we had done it sooner but didn’t for various reasons.

hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 17:41

@Lightuptheroom she’s in clubs and has been and again, gets on ok whilst she’s there, but no one wants to see or speak to her outside of it or doesn’t include her in gatherings. She’s very sweet and kind but a real rule follower and not interested in drama or gossip so I don’t think she appeals to many girls her age. We are absolutely realistic that these same issues may persist at new school, but if that’s the experience either way, might as well be closer to home!!

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rellylivesthere · 11/06/2026 17:37

hydrangeasandroses · 11/06/2026 07:25

DD attends clubs outside school and it’s the same story. Lots of connections, but no one wants her number or to be friends. We are not pinning our hopes on a new school being different but we are hoping that being close to home would bring advantages

How on earth can you cope with 2 hour drives to get her to the current school, if it is not offering any support? Being 10 minutes from home is going to be much easier for everyone and I would say it is worth the risk especially if it is also a school at the same academic level. The only real risk is that friends don't work out but they haven't at the current school so it's neutral.

Lightuptheroom · 11/06/2026 17:32

Certainly the EHCP system is changing and things are beginning to move in a direction that suggests they will call 'ehcps' the highest level of support. Its worth contacting your local authority
Send teams (often called slightly different acronyms) to see how they are changing things as most of it hasn't been implemented yet.
With regard to socialising ... it sounds like it's more outside of school friendships rather than actual school based problems? Which, regardless of which school she's in, it might be worth looking at local scout or guide groups, music groups etc depending on what her interests are? My ds (now adult) never actually had friends 'at school' but had a thriving social group of fellow kids who were very interested in heritage railways so the school day was just a means to an end for him. He used to do things like librarian at school so that he didn't have to be around others!

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