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Daughter being excluded from prom

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user1471497170 · 17/04/2026 11:42

My daughter is year 11 and sits GCSEs next month. She has struggled throughout the whole of secondary school with friendships, MH/school anxiety, behaviour and approximately a year ago almost got sent to pru. She has never settled in school. However she has made significant improvement, not on any behaviour plan, is revising hard and should pass GCSEs and do her chosen subjects in college.

She has autism, anxiety and some physical health issues that are likely linked. Getting her into school is a struggle as she feels unhappy there but we make the effort and her attendance is good.

Although much improved her behaviour score is not high enough to meet the 90% prom threshold (reminders, uniform points and gokng to toilet when not permitted). She was informally told this week the final decision is that she will be excluded from prom.

Now all the girls have their tickets and she is beside herself. They are all making plans and talking about dresses and she now feels unable to continue going to school due to feeling so distressed about this. She is worried how she will cope with the sense of exclusion having to keep hearing about prom in school and assemblies

She's now at home. I have written to the school and submitted 2 complaints over the last 2 months however I have not received a satisfactory response. There has been no communication to me from the school about their decision or how they will support those excluded. Please can someone advise how I can escalate this further and if possible externally.

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Lemonthyme · 17/04/2026 19:36

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 18:36

They either need to have reasonable adjustments or make inclusive policies. The should not create policies which unfairly discriminate against 20%, 5% or even .5% of pupils

But it's entirely possible their policies are inclusive.

user1464187087 · 17/04/2026 19:36

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/04/2026 19:32

Perhaps because the OP doesn't think she did anything deserving of such a hard consequence, and from what I have read so far, I would agree with that point of view. Stopping someone - and I am sorry if this isn't PC enough - but particularly a teenager girl, from going to her prom under such circumstances, is both very unjust, and actually cruel as well.

The OP hasn't exactly elaborated much on her daughters behaviour though.

Meudantte · 17/04/2026 19:36

I would go to the local press/ social media about this tbh. Make then take notice

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:35

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 19:26

Work wouldn't exclude a member of staff from a staff party based on poor health.

In my previous job, work do's were informal and organised by staff. If someone was barely at work due to sick leave, they would have just been forgotten about.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/04/2026 19:32

ThejoyofNC · 17/04/2026 12:21

Why don't you think she should face the consequences of her actions?

Perhaps because the OP doesn't think she did anything deserving of such a hard consequence, and from what I have read so far, I would agree with that point of view. Stopping someone - and I am sorry if this isn't PC enough - but particularly a teenager girl, from going to her prom under such circumstances, is both very unjust, and actually cruel as well.

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:32

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 19:26

Work wouldn't exclude a member of staff from a staff party based on poor health.

They’d sack them for poor behaviour against company policy though. And this isn’t about attendance at all it’s about behaviour.

Thetreesaregreeninspring · 17/04/2026 19:30

Going to the toilet isn’t the issue. Leaving class and then messing about, walking round the school and causing problems. This child was referred to a Pru. Are you going to go to the prom and keep an eye on these students? Give up YOUR evening? Or is this something someone else can do?

what about the other students who have tried hard, masked, made adjustments and worked hard? They don’t count, their efforts are for nothing because one badly behaved child is waving her autism card. By crying ableism and excusing poor behaviour you re the problem.

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 19:26

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:07

Okay, I'm gonna try and be realistic here.

Schools have to enforce the correlation between students attending prom and their attendance.

I mean, if you don't go to school often enough, you're therefore not considered a part of the school community enough to entitle you the privilege of going to prom.

It's like being an employee, constantly being off on the sick and wondering why you didn't get invited to the Xmas works do.

I understand she has MH issues, but I guess this is the reality of these situations.

90% attendance does seem a pretty harsh attendance cut off though, I don't agree with that.

But I do absolutely agree with there being an attendance enforcement in line with prom invites.

Work wouldn't exclude a member of staff from a staff party based on poor health.

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 19:25

ProudCat · 17/04/2026 19:06

I'm very knowledgeable about masking. If it helps, before becoming a teacher I worked in clinical neuroscience specifically in the area of autism. So, you see, I really am very knowledgeable about masking. For example, it doesn't always come "at great personal cost." It's actually very worrying that people seem to think this. It suggests that autistic people can't behave 'normally' because they simply don't have the spoons to do this. And that kind of thinking is the actual discrimination.

Re: Asking to go to use the toilet, I can tell you now that all children who are assessed by their GP or Ed Psych as requiring a toilet pass are given a toilet pass. You don't end up on the road to PRU (which are hellishly expensive themselves) because you've got a weak bladder and your teachers are horrible. This isn't what's happening here. The current secondary I've worked in for years has never had one single child whose period has leaked through their clothes, and we've only dealt with one Y7 wetting himself when he got too caught up in PE. I know it's super fashionable at the moment to say this is totally widespread and a national scandal, but it isn't, it's some made up crap circulating in Facebook groups. It's unsurprising, given that we're living in a 'post truth' society that we've fallen into the trap of thinking if you say something often enough it must be true.

There's a wide difference between behaving normally and some of the rules in schools that do discriminate. And masking to manage sensory overwhelm or masking be ause you are scared and worried does come at personal cost. Which is why we have lots of children burning out and unable to attend school.

Autism impacts people differently. 3 autistic siblings 1 masked and managed school but this has caused so much damage to metal health, one couldn't cope at all and can't even walk near a school.vuilding and the other loves schools and thrives in the structure.

But what we have learnt is needs are frequently not being met and many many autistic young people are being failed.

ERthree · 17/04/2026 19:24

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · 17/04/2026 17:41

I’d just turn up with her. What are they going to do realistically?

id also go to the local paper about it

And that is why we have out of control young adults that think they can do as they please because they have parents that do as they please. Not doing this child any favours, just setting her up for a life of chaos and bad feeling.

Marieb19 · 17/04/2026 19:23

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 18:36

They either need to have reasonable adjustments or make inclusive policies. The should not create policies which unfairly discriminate against 20%, 5% or even .5% of pupils

They are not discriminating, they are treating all children equally. We need to stop making excuses for bad behaviour and I say this as a mother of three, two had sen, one on the spectrum.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2026 19:22

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:09

You are correcting a poster when you haven’t read the OP yourself! It’s not about attendance at all, but about a behaviour score!
Although much improved her behaviour score is not high enough to meet the 90% prom threshold

You're right, cardibach; that was my silly mistake, though the point about us not knowing how far below the threshold she is still stands - as does whether school have the same view as OP about claimed improvements

As PPs have said these things are staffed voluntarily, and at a couple of local secondaries they've stopped them completely because the hassle of appalling behaviour and threatening parents simply became too much
This led several such parents to approach alternative venues with a view to running it themselves, except that word gets round and - knowing what was coming their way - the venues refused

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:22

PersephoneSmith · 17/04/2026 19:17

The OP says the behaviour is reminders, uniform points and going to the toilet
so yes, that is what we are being told.
if there is more to it and the OP has not told us everything then the whole thread is pointless 🤷‍♀️

So reminders - which the OP has ignored several requests to explain and could mean that she has to be told to do/not do things repeatedly before she complies (and these things coukd involve safety) uniform and ‘going to the toilet when not permitted’ which coukd well be code for leaving class without permission and wandering the halls.
So not in any way ‘because she needed to go to the toilet’ once or twice.

Rainydays26 · 17/04/2026 19:21

ProudCat · 17/04/2026 19:06

I'm very knowledgeable about masking. If it helps, before becoming a teacher I worked in clinical neuroscience specifically in the area of autism. So, you see, I really am very knowledgeable about masking. For example, it doesn't always come "at great personal cost." It's actually very worrying that people seem to think this. It suggests that autistic people can't behave 'normally' because they simply don't have the spoons to do this. And that kind of thinking is the actual discrimination.

Re: Asking to go to use the toilet, I can tell you now that all children who are assessed by their GP or Ed Psych as requiring a toilet pass are given a toilet pass. You don't end up on the road to PRU (which are hellishly expensive themselves) because you've got a weak bladder and your teachers are horrible. This isn't what's happening here. The current secondary I've worked in for years has never had one single child whose period has leaked through their clothes, and we've only dealt with one Y7 wetting himself when he got too caught up in PE. I know it's super fashionable at the moment to say this is totally widespread and a national scandal, but it isn't, it's some made up crap circulating in Facebook groups. It's unsurprising, given that we're living in a 'post truth' society that we've fallen into the trap of thinking if you say something often enough it must be true.

My dd has a toilet pass due to heavy periods. So she can get to the toilet. But some children may not have a toilet pass but still have a heavy period there and there. If they dont have a pass they cant go so thete would be a risk of leaking.

My dd leaves school once exams are done . Yet about a month ago they asked for another letter from the GP. Gp was not impressed and said the school shouldn't be asking. He did write a note Byt on the note he also added they should not be asking and they should be allowing children to go to the toilet.

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:18

Oh well, that's kinda tough then.

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:18

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:17

I'm sorry, what?

What is her reason for being denied prom then?

From the OP Although much improved her behaviour score is not high enough to meet the 90% prom threshold
Behaviour score. Not attendance.

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:18

Ah right, behaviour score.

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:17

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:13

Once more. It’s not abput her attendance. Rad the OP at least. This constant misdirection is making the thread unreadable.

I'm sorry, what?

What is her reason for being denied prom then?

PersephoneSmith · 17/04/2026 19:17

user1464187087 · 17/04/2026 19:06

Do you honestly think that's why she has been excluded from prom?
Seriously, do you really think that?

The OP says the behaviour is reminders, uniform points and going to the toilet
so yes, that is what we are being told.
if there is more to it and the OP has not told us everything then the whole thread is pointless 🤷‍♀️

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:13

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:07

Okay, I'm gonna try and be realistic here.

Schools have to enforce the correlation between students attending prom and their attendance.

I mean, if you don't go to school often enough, you're therefore not considered a part of the school community enough to entitle you the privilege of going to prom.

It's like being an employee, constantly being off on the sick and wondering why you didn't get invited to the Xmas works do.

I understand she has MH issues, but I guess this is the reality of these situations.

90% attendance does seem a pretty harsh attendance cut off though, I don't agree with that.

But I do absolutely agree with there being an attendance enforcement in line with prom invites.

Once more. It’s not abput her attendance. Rad the OP at least. This constant misdirection is making the thread unreadable.

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:09

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2026 18:58

For an autistic kid, 90% attendance in Y11 is extraordinary

OP didn't say her DD has 90% attendance, @Robotindisguise, but that she'd fallen below that threshold (and we don't know by how much)

We don't know what led to the PRU referral either, and whether school share OP's view that there's been significant improvement since

We don't really know much at all beyond the fact that DD's been refused prom and they're upset about it, but still the armchair lawyers pile on ... and then some wonder why chaos ensues when such young people reach the workplace

You are correcting a poster when you haven’t read the OP yourself! It’s not about attendance at all, but about a behaviour score!
Although much improved her behaviour score is not high enough to meet the 90% prom threshold

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2026 19:08

Some people on this thread seem to think that an autistic child can’t possibly be badly behaved and it’s always their autism causing the problem, never their own behavioural choice. When does this stop? When they turn 18? 20? 25? If an autistic 18 year old stabs and kills another human being, is that simply their autism acting rather than them? This is a dangerously slippery slope.
It’s this thinking that has got society into the state it’s in

Wise words, @Pricelessadvice

Even allowing for delays in diagnosis I was surprised to see that the National Autistic Society reckon it affects between 1-2% of people ... surprised because, to read threads where children have been subject to the least correction, you'd be forgiven for thinking it was the vast majority

Owlmoonstar · 17/04/2026 19:07

Okay, I'm gonna try and be realistic here.

Schools have to enforce the correlation between students attending prom and their attendance.

I mean, if you don't go to school often enough, you're therefore not considered a part of the school community enough to entitle you the privilege of going to prom.

It's like being an employee, constantly being off on the sick and wondering why you didn't get invited to the Xmas works do.

I understand she has MH issues, but I guess this is the reality of these situations.

90% attendance does seem a pretty harsh attendance cut off though, I don't agree with that.

But I do absolutely agree with there being an attendance enforcement in line with prom invites.

cardibach · 17/04/2026 19:07

Hadenough32 · 17/04/2026 18:56

I'm harsh but I'd say it's fair enough. If her anxiety/autism/ health issues have prevented her attending school then surely she also can't manage prom...
Seems like a normal consequence for persistent unacceptable behaviours. You both must have known the school operates this policy?
Teach your daughter now that rules apply to her and might not be too late to save her future.

It’s. Not. About. Attendance.

ProudCat · 17/04/2026 19:06

Leftrightmiddle · 17/04/2026 18:39

As an autistic secondary school teacher I would expect you to be knowledgeable about masking. It is entirely possible that she has managed to mask through some of her difficulties for a short space of time (a great personal cost)

Sometimes asking to use the toilet can be a barrier in itself but that doesn't mean you don't need the toilet. Also lots of instances where young people have wet themselves in high school or had periods leek through clothes be ause the tea her has refused them to go to the toilet or they have been too scared to ask.

I'm very knowledgeable about masking. If it helps, before becoming a teacher I worked in clinical neuroscience specifically in the area of autism. So, you see, I really am very knowledgeable about masking. For example, it doesn't always come "at great personal cost." It's actually very worrying that people seem to think this. It suggests that autistic people can't behave 'normally' because they simply don't have the spoons to do this. And that kind of thinking is the actual discrimination.

Re: Asking to go to use the toilet, I can tell you now that all children who are assessed by their GP or Ed Psych as requiring a toilet pass are given a toilet pass. You don't end up on the road to PRU (which are hellishly expensive themselves) because you've got a weak bladder and your teachers are horrible. This isn't what's happening here. The current secondary I've worked in for years has never had one single child whose period has leaked through their clothes, and we've only dealt with one Y7 wetting himself when he got too caught up in PE. I know it's super fashionable at the moment to say this is totally widespread and a national scandal, but it isn't, it's some made up crap circulating in Facebook groups. It's unsurprising, given that we're living in a 'post truth' society that we've fallen into the trap of thinking if you say something often enough it must be true.

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