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Didn’t get into any choices, placed into Catholic School - help

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morozova89 · 10/03/2026 09:21

Hi everyone, I’m really hoping someone might be able to offer some advice about secondary school appeals in London.

My son has been allocated a place at a Catholic secondary school, which we did not put on our application list. We are a different faith and not Catholic, so being placed in a faith school that isn’t ours feels very upsetting and uncomfortable for our family.

I’m also a single mum and have had to navigate this process on my own, and unfortunately my son’s dad hasn’t been helpful with any of it. I’m originally from Ukraine and not very familiar with the UK school system, so I did what I thought made sense at the time.

We listed four schools, three of which we genuinely believed were realistic choices based on distance and admissions. Sadly he wasn’t offered any of them. I realise now maybe I should have listed more, but I honestly didn’t know.

What has made it even more shocking is that all of my son’s close friends were offered places at our number one choice school, which is in our catchment area and part of the same federation as his current primary school. I know friendships aren’t a ground for appeal, but it has made the outcome quite difficult for him to understand.

My son was born in the UK, is in Year 6, and is doing well at his current primary school, so this has been a really confusing and upsetting situation for us.

I understand that appeals are usually made for a specific school rather than against the one offered, but being allocated a faith school that isn’t our faith and wasn’t on our list feels particularly difficult.

If anyone has experience with appeals, waiting lists, or what steps I should take next, I would be incredibly grateful for any advice. Thank you so much. 🙏

btw we are in London.

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morozova89 · 11/03/2026 07:42

Hi all,

Firstly, thanks so much for all your replies!

I admit I made a mistake by not listing more schools (I listed 4). Again, I’m unfamiliar with the system and did my best to figure it out before applying but still, that’s my fault and I won’t blame anyone else.

However, for context -
The federation has two primaries and two secondaries. Most kids from the primaries end up in one of the two secondaries. That’s why I was so confused that we didn’t get into either of those secondaries. Eg my son’s friend, who lives next door, and has no sibling at said secondary (our first choice), got into the school. We live exactly 0.9 miles from the school. And I know of kids in DS’ class who live further away, that got into said first choice school.

Secondly, I am staunchly atheist after having a traumatic experience as a child with Russian Orthodox Church. I just do not see how we would “gel” with the community/ethos of the school given this.

I have since added other schools that are close to us to the list. As far as I understand we are automatically added to the waiting lists but I’m waiting for confirmation from the LA (haven’t been able to reach them by phone yet…)

I guess our grounds for appeal is proximity to school (25 minute walk) + the fact my son as attended the Federation’s primary. It also offers Japanese as a language which my son is very interested in doing. I don’t know if these are strong grounds for an appeal.

Out of 5 of his close friend group, he’s the only one that didn’t get into our number 1 school. I know that may not mean anything really but obviously has made things a lot more difficult for him emotionally.

thanks everyone again for your help.

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ParentOfOne · 11/03/2026 07:09

Again, that's only because they are socially selective.
Again, plenty of research on that.
Again, the infamous London Oratory, which was defeated in court because its admission policies were ruled discriminatory and unfair, is a perfect example of that.

Pretending to believe in one of the multiple deities worshipped on this planet, pretending to believe that a priest turns a wafer into the body of a deity, and believing in one of the ca. 40-50 denominations of Christianity do not make you a better parent or student.
If anyone disagrees, I'd love to hear why.

Hazlenuts2016 · 11/03/2026 06:53

We're not catholic but the Catholic schools in our city are highly.sought after and generally above average in terms of behaviour and academics. We are in the Midlands but sounds like it's a wider trend.

BlueMoonIceCream · 10/03/2026 23:57

morozova89 · 10/03/2026 09:21

Hi everyone, I’m really hoping someone might be able to offer some advice about secondary school appeals in London.

My son has been allocated a place at a Catholic secondary school, which we did not put on our application list. We are a different faith and not Catholic, so being placed in a faith school that isn’t ours feels very upsetting and uncomfortable for our family.

I’m also a single mum and have had to navigate this process on my own, and unfortunately my son’s dad hasn’t been helpful with any of it. I’m originally from Ukraine and not very familiar with the UK school system, so I did what I thought made sense at the time.

We listed four schools, three of which we genuinely believed were realistic choices based on distance and admissions. Sadly he wasn’t offered any of them. I realise now maybe I should have listed more, but I honestly didn’t know.

What has made it even more shocking is that all of my son’s close friends were offered places at our number one choice school, which is in our catchment area and part of the same federation as his current primary school. I know friendships aren’t a ground for appeal, but it has made the outcome quite difficult for him to understand.

My son was born in the UK, is in Year 6, and is doing well at his current primary school, so this has been a really confusing and upsetting situation for us.

I understand that appeals are usually made for a specific school rather than against the one offered, but being allocated a faith school that isn’t our faith and wasn’t on our list feels particularly difficult.

If anyone has experience with appeals, waiting lists, or what steps I should take next, I would be incredibly grateful for any advice. Thank you so much. 🙏

btw we are in London.

Check the GCSE results. You may find out that the Catholic school has way better results than non catholic that you preferred.
Bear in mind that Catholic schools in UK are usually better, with great ethos and kids behave better overall. These are not nun convents but only slightly religious schools. Many parents go to great length to secure the place in such school

challengeAcceptedd · 10/03/2026 20:01

I never said OP did. Anyway it was rather rhetorical.

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 19:24

challengeAcceptedd · 10/03/2026 18:11

I wonder if this would have been so upsetting and uncomfortable had the catholic school been outstanding/sought after/over subscribed😀

Rather unfair, as OP has said nothing about ofsted or results, only faith.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 10/03/2026 18:27

firstly, are you on the waiting list for the 3 you did put on the form? Make sure you are on all 3 waiting lists.

There is always lots of movement - how far are you from each school?

challengeAcceptedd · 10/03/2026 18:11

I wonder if this would have been so upsetting and uncomfortable had the catholic school been outstanding/sought after/over subscribed😀

NimbleMauveRobin · 10/03/2026 17:55

Yes. I think the poster maybe didn't investigate the system enough. Tough but there is movement especially in London.

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 17:36

NimbleMauveRobin · 10/03/2026 17:33

the poster says this in the first post.

well, kinda.

But she says federation, not feeder, and that doesn’t negate my first point that a secondary can have several feeder primaries.

And my second point (as per PanelChair above) is that people often say catchment as a shorthand, rather than there being a formal defined area (to note - even if there is a formal catchment, distance may well be a tie breaker even within catchment if the school is oversubscribed)

NimbleMauveRobin · 10/03/2026 17:33

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 17:32

  1. Not all schools will have feeder primary schools and those that do may have several, meaning a limited number of students are prioritised from any given feeder
  2. People often use catchment loosely to mean a nearby school rather than one with a fixed set of postcodes forming its set catchment area

the poster says this in the first post.

ParentOfOne · 10/03/2026 17:32

Most schools in London do not have a catchment, but admit based on distance.
In practice, when people say the catchment was 1,000 metres, they mean that the maximum admission distance was 1,000 metres, but that's not fixed and it can vary from year to year.

Some schools have priority zones.

We cannot really say anything until and unless OP clarifies

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 17:32

NimbleMauveRobin · 10/03/2026 17:24

I can't understand how you did not get your 1st choice if you live in the catchment and your child attends a primary school in the federation. There must be an error somewhere. The authority's or maybe yours?

  1. Not all schools will have feeder primary schools and those that do may have several, meaning a limited number of students are prioritised from any given feeder
  2. People often use catchment loosely to mean a nearby school rather than one with a fixed set of postcodes forming its set catchment area
NimbleMauveRobin · 10/03/2026 17:24

I can't understand how you did not get your 1st choice if you live in the catchment and your child attends a primary school in the federation. There must be an error somewhere. The authority's or maybe yours?

ParentOfOne · 10/03/2026 14:14

OP, where in London are you? Some councils and schools publish how much the waiting lists moved between March and August in the past. That is no guarantee but gives you an indication. Some don't.
Eg maybe you are 1500 metres from the school you want, and the maximum admission distance was 1300 in March but 2000 by August. It can happen. Look into it

@Spirallingdownwards
From my experience many of the Catholic schools are better and there are usually plenty of non Catholic parents seeking places in them because of that.

Nonsense. There are good faith schools and awful ones. Just south of the river from the very coveted London Oratory is St John Bosco College, also Catholic, which has been undersubscribed for as long as I can remember, because no one wants to send their kids there. You cannot generalise. You need to consider the specific school

Faith schools tend to be more socially selective. That explains most of the "better" results you allude to. Plenty of research on this, eg https://www.secularism.org.uk/faith-schools/faith-school-facts

The National secular Society and Humanists UK fought the London Oratory in Court, and won, because their old admission policy gave priority to obscure criteria like participation in Church activities, which ranged from flower arranging to donations. This was ruled discriminatory and illegal.

Councilworker · 10/03/2026 14:13

Former admissions manager. Every year a number of children in the LA I worked were offered a Jewish school because it was under subscribed including Christian and Muslim kids. A large Catholic school that is under subscribed also gets a lot of Muslim children bring given that as an alternative offer as it is the closest school with a vacancy. We literally don't look at the faith declaration when allocating alternative offers as we're just looking for the closest school with a place.

cestlavielife · 10/03/2026 14:11

Can you visit schoool ask how they cater for non catholics? Can they opt out of religious observances? Get on wait list for preferred school . In london there is movement

ParentOfOne · 10/03/2026 14:05

@FlayOtters interesting, I wonder if you'd give this opinion if a Catholic child had been placed in a Muslim or Jewish school?

Moot point. There are way, way, way more Christian (CofE and Catholic) state schools than Jewish or Muslim one. In a densely populated city like London it is not impossible but practically quite rare that a Jewish or Muslim school ends up being the only undersubscribed school, with no other undersubscribed school in the area.

In councils like Lambeth and Wandsworth about half the schools are undersubscribed, for example! That's due to a combination of demographics (families leaving inner London) and the polarisation from having very coveted schools which everyone wants (many partially selective, but that's another topic) and undersubscribed schools which not enough people want.

Regardless, being assigned a school you don't like, including one of a faith which isn't yours, isn't a valid reason to appeal. And I say this as an atheist who thinks that state-funded faith schools are an abomination

LostMySocks · 10/03/2026 14:02

Firstly dont panic.

My son was Y6 last year. We were offered 6th choice school. The good news is that there is always loads of movement. My son was offered 2nd choice school before transition day. 1st choice was aspirational so we would never have got it but you still try.

Accept the place which means you at least have a school. Then check policy on waiting lists. In my borough you automatically go on the waiting lists. After the deadline there is a second round of offers. Most parents applying to independent (private) schools also have a state offer. Once they accept a private offer they then usually reject the state one. This all starts a lot of movement.

After then there is often further movement but it takes a bit of time for everything to filter through.

The council website will tell you how to find out your place on the various waiting lists.

FlayOtters · 10/03/2026 13:59

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 13:54

Sure, Jan.

are you ok? I have no idea who 'PanelChair' is or what they're an expert in, I was merely asking the question because it seemed like a situation where unconscious bias could be slipping in - i.e. not wanting to attend a Catholic school is not a reason for appeal because (the assumption is) Catholic schools are 'good' and it's a 'Christian country' - was pondering whether people would still think it wasn't reason for an appeal if a Christian child had been placed in a Muslim school... not sure why your attitude is warranted?

PanelChair · 10/03/2026 13:56

This opinion comes from many years’ experience of appeals and, therefore, many years’ training in admissions law.

Appeal panels look at all the circumstances around the decision to refuse admission to the preferred school, and must consider the best interests of the child, but preferences around faith schools may not be enough on their own to win an appeal.

LittleGreenDuck · 10/03/2026 13:55

FlayOtters · 10/03/2026 13:32

interesting, I wonder if you'd give this opinion if a Catholic child had been placed in a Muslim or Jewish school?
OP - consider contacting Humansits UK, they may well be able to offer advice and support on challenging a school place if you are of a different or no religion.

Yes, she would. Because that’s the process.

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 13:54

FlayOtters · 10/03/2026 13:54

okey doke, was just asking the question.

Sure, Jan.

FlayOtters · 10/03/2026 13:54

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 13:51

PanelChair is an expert who has posted on admissions threads for many years. So I can confidently say that she is posting objective facts about the admissions and appeals process, not influenced by any given religion or other criterion.

okey doke, was just asking the question.

SheilaFentiman · 10/03/2026 13:51

FlayOtters · 10/03/2026 13:32

interesting, I wonder if you'd give this opinion if a Catholic child had been placed in a Muslim or Jewish school?
OP - consider contacting Humansits UK, they may well be able to offer advice and support on challenging a school place if you are of a different or no religion.

PanelChair is an expert who has posted on admissions threads for many years. So I can confidently say that she is posting objective facts about the admissions and appeals process, not influenced by any given religion or other criterion.