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Ds1s history teacher said this......or you could say The Arabs just took up where the Germans left off...

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Piffle · 09/06/2008 19:37

in relation to Israel palestine conflict.
I am pretty about it...
to point of actually mentioning it to school. Facts being facts and all?

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Piffle · 09/06/2008 20:12

I studied seriously the Israel Palestine conflict . Ds1 has very extensive exposure to both sides rights and wrongs.
it is a very important partvof who we are as I am involved shall we say in the conflict...
I am not in the habit of picking battles aside from
one famous legendary one with out of order re teacher.

This teacher is not the best she is rude, thougtless and cruel. And as well as that it would appear wrong about history.
I do wonder if ds1 heard it wrong suchas " some might say..." so as much to clarify as anything.

This is personal of course as it is very important to us.

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MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 09/06/2008 20:04

MB - lol @ modern history from the Romans!

Habbibu · 09/06/2008 20:04

Blee - 1800s! I keep trying to start inane MN schisms tonight, so pah to you and your poxy late-early-modern nonsense.

pointydog · 09/06/2008 20:04

what was the context? That's the first thing I'd ask my child.

fryalot · 09/06/2008 20:03

my dad once complained to my geography teacher that she had got something wrong in one of my lessons.

I remember what she said, I know it was wrong, and I remember the correct version. I also remember the next lesson where she admitted she had been wrong and taught us correctly.

Perhaps the only thing I actually learnt at school.

Maybe you should complain...

Habbibu · 09/06/2008 20:03

I work in HE admin, Cod. That's pretty much my life.

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 20:02

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Habbibu · 09/06/2008 20:02

What's not to like about the middle ages, Cod?

Habbibu · 09/06/2008 20:01

Actually, in typical vacillating fashion, I think that MrsG has it right - I suspect this is what you said earlier, too, Cod, but my Universal Translator wasn't quite functioning - if Piffle's ds comes up with good counter-arguments, that's good history learning right there. I therefore retract my "complain" advice!

Blandmum · 09/06/2008 19:58

The Modern History course in Oxford starts with the fall of the Roman Empire

Hassled · 09/06/2008 19:58

Are you sure it wasn't a deliberately provocative statement designed to kick off a rational discussion in class? That would make much more sense. If it was a stand-alone statement, I don't think it's worth a formal complaint but it is worth talking to the teacher about. If there isn't a parents' evening soon, maybe an after-school phone call?

I did this recently when DS2's teacher told the class that of the Greens got into power electricity would be rationed to 2 or 3 hours a day (). I rang and said actually that's not true, I thought it was important that the children had as much factually accurate information as possible so they could make informed decisions about politics etc etc - I doubt I made myself popular, but I can live with that.

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:58

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MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 09/06/2008 19:57

I agree with Cod about choosing your battles. If he is in secondary - how old is he? Old enough for you talk about it with him, and get him books etc to give him alternative views. And to explain that even teacher are human and bring baggage to this conflict which has endless nuances and no one right answer. There is a very good book called 'From Beirut to Jerusalem' (sorry can't remember author) which puts into contexts the various factions from 1945 - 1990.
It would be good if you could also get him reading current quality newspapers to get a better feel for the current reality and to get to see that there are numerous shades of grey, and gettin him to form his own opinions. For example, this weekend there were several reports about the Israel/Iran oil company - nows there's an intersting combination of interests!

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:57

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Habbibu · 09/06/2008 19:57

Hope not, Cod - most of our household income is dependent on the early middle ages having happened...

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:56

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FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:55

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Habbibu · 09/06/2008 19:55

So he was just testing them? Oh, the little monkey...

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:55

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LavendersBlueDillyDilly · 09/06/2008 19:54

Ah, gotcha. Apologies.

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:54

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Habbibu · 09/06/2008 19:53

I'm with you on the over-complaining - v. sick of students in HE whinging about not being spoon fed, but think a quiet word here might nip this in the bud.

LavendersBlueDillyDilly · 09/06/2008 19:53

I bet it's not a 'mistake' and is a line the teacher has used before and will use again as it reflects thier belief.

FluffyMummy123 · 09/06/2008 19:53

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