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Mumsytutu · 2025-11-08T08:39:50+00:00

Hi there. not sure where to start so here we go. I have a 13 year old son, who is in constant trouble at school. His usual issues are low level disruption, chatter (a lot) and the odd general boyish behaviour. Never anything untoward for eg: bullying, spiteful or the usual things you’d hate your teenager to be involved in. At home, although there is the odd teenage attitude outburst, on the whole he is a joy to be around, well behaved, well mannered etc. He is very funny, personable, considerate and just a decent kid (to us, his friends parents, family etc) no one can ever understand why he’s in so much trouble at school. We have a great relationship which I’m keen to preserve of course. He confides in me and is he’s very honest (too honest sometimes!!). He will hold his hands up when he has deserved the sanction point. He has a great friendship group, decent boys who are likeminded etc. The school is one of the best in the area. They are strict, which I support. I think. At first, in year 7, we came down on him like a ton of bricks everytime he received a ‘sanction behaviour point’. Over time this has stopped as he ended up in a right mess and felt he had nowhere to turn (stopped eating, extremely emotional at home, etc etc). After discussing by with the school we felt their punishments (detention etc) should be enough. (Considering there wasn’t ever any extreme behaviour like bullying etc). fast forward to year 9 and he has all but completely written off school. He hates it and cannot wait to leave. He’s a bright lad so this breaks my heart. His planned GCSE choices (which he is certain he will fail) all revolve around which teachers he gets on with. Im bombarded with emails and calls from the school about how talkative he is (and from him in the toilets during the day, phones are banned but he texts and sends voice notes secretly telling me what’s going on, I do warn him if he looses his phone it’s his own fault, but equally I’m pleased he feels he can call mum). He has been accused of being rude to staff on odd occasions, and when we discussed this at home it was because he was being accused of doing something he didn’t do and was frustrated (I investigated, he was telling the truth on all occasions, I even had to dig out his bank statements to send to the school on one occasion when he was accused of having a fizzy drink. He doesn’t like fizzy drinks for a start!!). We do talk about how to get your point accords respectfully however, no place for rudeness in my mind. He says he was just trying to tell them it wasn’t him etc and they wouldn’t listen. Additionally, what we are finding is once he receives a sanction point in the week, he will spiral and it just gets worse from there. Also, this is not in every subject, he can tell us ahead of time which subjects he will receive a sanction in at the start of the day and he is usually right (based on which teachers he has). Im now at a point where I have told the school to stop contacting me unless he is rude/ bullying or if he is quiet (as that would be concerning!!) I totally understand how ‘low level disruption’ is not fair on the other children, and we do discuss at home etc but im at a loss of what to do and this is so draining on us as parents, let alone him. He’s now starting to try and get out of school on the ‘bad days’ . He tried to tell me he was ill and I saw straight past him and he was then honest, he’s had enough of the constant sanctions and I can totally understand. He has a detention every week (detentions are based on how many sanction points a child receives rather a specific events). As the school is 15 miles away, one of us then has to pick him up which is a nightmare (we both work full time). We have spoken to him about this until we are blue in the face. I’ve told him just to be mute in certain subjects etc to get by. i should also point out that he gets an incredible amount of positive points for his contributions to lessons and for his confidence etc. it’s not all bad! i have emailed the school so I’m waiting to hear back but at the moment I’m thinking he would be best for everyone if he didn’t go to school on the ‘bad days’ which is ridiculous!! He’s always had excellent attendance so the fact in even thinking like this is shocking. does anyone have any advice. I’m exhausted and so is he. thanks so much.

ObliviousCoalmine · 08/11/2025 17:14

Your first post could be about my daughter. She’s got adhd and asd. It took a lot of working with the school and finding the right adjustments.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 16:55

Mumsytutu · 08/11/2025 16:47

I’ve never heard of this, but frantically googling all the the things people are suggesting. So thank you.

his favourite subjects are DT food (considering he’s a terrible eater he has found a love of cooking through this subject, never received a sanction). Drama, he’s exceptional, practises at home and loves it. Never received a sanction. Geography (teacher is fantastic with him, he wants to travel the world because of this teacher, cannot wait to have a lesson with this teacher). So we do have some positives, they are just lost amongst the negatives.

Thanks for your comment.

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Yeah, and often they are trouble in other classes and delightful in DT. Less formality, more fun, more chance to interact.

He sounds lovely op. I used to love kids like him. They were always bloody lovely for me. But l was never in their face apart from H and S. Forgotten pen? What’s the big deal? When your juggling 500 pieces of equipment per lesson no pen seems kind of minor.Fidgety? Fiddle with making it work properly. Hope it works out.

If you are near S Yorks l can give you the name of a pyschiatrist who assessed and turned my dd around in 3 months. Good luck with him. He sounds lovey.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 16:50

If he’s not doing French at GCSE, he could be removed from those classes and use them as decompression time.

They probs won’t let you though. Worth a try,

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Mumsytutu · 08/11/2025 16:47

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 16:42

‘He can get very defensive’

RSD there. (Rejection sensitivity dysphoria)

I also don’t agree kids like this are worse in academic lessons. I used to teach DT and art. The freerer movement and less structure in these lessons can make kids like this worse.

I’ve never heard of this, but frantically googling all the the things people are suggesting. So thank you.

his favourite subjects are DT food (considering he’s a terrible eater he has found a love of cooking through this subject, never received a sanction). Drama, he’s exceptional, practises at home and loves it. Never received a sanction. Geography (teacher is fantastic with him, he wants to travel the world because of this teacher, cannot wait to have a lesson with this teacher). So we do have some positives, they are just lost amongst the negatives.

Thanks for your comment.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 16:42

‘He can get very defensive’

RSD there. (Rejection sensitivity dysphoria)

I also don’t agree kids like this are worse in academic lessons. I used to teach DT and art. The freerer movement and less structure in these lessons can make kids like this worse.

Richardoo · 08/11/2025 16:32

VikaOlson · 08/11/2025 15:31

I'm not sure if it's seen as 'draconian' any more, it would have been when we were at school but now it seems pretty standard to have lots of acronyms like SLANT and sanctions for looking around, fiddling with your pen, slouching etc.

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SLANT is the bloody devil. I achieved well in school, but wouldn't have cope under that type of regime, especially the eye tracking and posture bullshit. I'd have been an anxious wreck.

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Mumsytutu · 08/11/2025 16:30

Emmz1510 · 08/11/2025 15:56

Very difficult. There may well be elements of additional needs here, possibly ADHD, and it would be worth looking into SENCO. But I also think people can be quick to jump to that, when a lot of what you are describing might be fairly normal for a kid his age. I also think there will be some teachers who tolerate kids being chatty and lively and having an opinion more than others, maybe even welcome it, more than others.
Is there any kind of other pattern to the classes he is being disciplined in other than it being teachers he doesn’t like? For example, does it happen in the more ‘academic’ subjects eg English, Maths, languages, or history as opposed to the more practical science, PE, art or tech? Because the more academic ones rely more on being able to sit still and be quiet, so he would stand out more.
Is it possible he is really bright and some of the classes are too easy and he needs more challenged? Equally, does he maybe have sight or hearing issues or dyslexia/dyspraxia that make some subjects more challenging for him and he’s playing up to compensate?
Keep reinforcing strategies for managing the difficulties that come up- e.g it’s great if you have something to say but make sure you put your hand up and don’t shout out, make sure your tone isn’t cheeky, ignore your mates carrying on or tell them to rap it.
Im afraid I think you probably do need to be putting consequences in place at home as well. It’s fair enough to say a problem has already been dealt with by detention, but clearly it’s not been dealt with if he keeps doing the same behaviours! If he gets a detention I think it’s fair to say he is also grounded that evening or loses phone privileges.

Thanks so much.
subjects we have serious issues with are mainly French and Maths. Last year we had big issues with science, but since a new teacher that has settled down.

French teacher is well known for their use of sanctions, has a reputation if you like (I’ve heard it many times from other parents and pupils in other years). He has had the same French teacher since yr7.
he has point blankly refused to consider French at GCSE because of this. His sanctions in this class came range from chatting to a removal. He walked into the class on Friday, was told ‘thanks for coming now get out’ he had no idea what he had done (chatting on the way in according to the teacher). This triggered a chain of events where he tried to contact me, was late to another lesson, Received another sanction etc etc etc.

Maths- tricky, again has a reputation for dishing out the sanctions. However, his maths teacher regularly talks to us and I believe is trying to help him. He has a love hate relationship with his maths teacher and I appreciate his maths teachers efforts and my son does also. But he will receive a sanction every lesson, usually for chatting.

other subjects are subjective to how the days going. If he’s had a bad lesson, we see more sanctions on that day. Especially if it was for something he’s deemed ‘unfair’ (he can get really defensive) He can spiral quite quickly until the whole day is a write off.
then comes the sanctions where he can’t do right for doing wrong. Where he has good intentions, but they back fire. I see his point and then I see why the teacher dished out the sanction. Then he gets really upset as he sees that as unfair. I have numerous examples where I literally slap my forehead and can see why he’s so upset, yet see why the teacher gave the sanction.

and then we have the accusations of him doing things that he will deny until he’s blue in the face. Then receive a sanction for doing it anyway and for arguing with the teacher . Then I have to become detective to try and support him/ find out what’s happened (on the understanding that if he found to be lying, I will unleash hell on him punishment wise. I would be furious) he tells me to continue as he isn’t lying.

Everytime, I have found him to be telling the truth. (pastoral have even got CCTV involved, then called me back with an apology as they had the wrong child).

and then there’s the sanctions that he holds his hands up to, says he was in the wrong and agrees he deserved it and apologises (to the teacher).

at the moment, he has a detention every week. I have honestly tried to put in place punishments at home re detentions it all back fired and he was scared to come home or would come home so emotional/ refuse to go school/ stopped eating. It was actually his pastoral lead (who he gets on with really well) that suggested we remove at home punishments.

I have also tried rewards for not getting detentions.

it’s a lot.
i have some great suggestions to try from these replies however, not only ADHD considerations but other ways to try and discipline him at home without it being so ‘big’ that it’s a problem for him to deal with. So we continue forward.
Thank you.

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Catwalking · 08/11/2025 16:30

Ask sch. to reorganise timetable so that all the bad teachers/lessons are on a fri., or at a stretch thurs afternoon & fri?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 16:22

ApathyCentral · 08/11/2025 16:14

Agreed.

OP, if it were me I would do the following:

let him stay home on the bad days. He’s trying not to disappoint you but he is school refusing. And then I’d tell the school, via email, that he’s refusing to attend due to the stress and anxiety their behaviour towards him is causing.

Why? Because they should have had the SENCO involved a long time ago, and they need a kick up the arse. If you explicitly say it is the school and the behaviour of certain school staff towards him - the school suddenly has to engage properly.

It’s been clear for a long time that endless detention doesn’t work. There’s something else here. And they’ve clearly decided that anything he does is wrongs and youve had to fight them to see their errors (eg the fizzy drink issue). They are also already aware they’ve stressed him to the point he stopped eating - and it’s clear they didn’t give a damn.

They won’t change their approach unless you force the issue. And making it clear that you now have EBSA makes it a problem they actually have to fix.

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Absolutely.

And also they are discriminating against him with all these sanctions. He doesn’t need a diagnosis for him to be considered to have a disability. And l think they are discriminating against him a lot.

Where are the adjustments? School sound like a bag of shite tbh.

ApathyCentral · 08/11/2025 16:14

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 10:29

Adhd can cause overwhelm.

He can listen at home because it’s only you and it’s quiet.

At school his busy brain is overwhelmed with noise, lights, other people. This is why he’s missing instructions.

l think school have been pretty crap at picking this up.

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Agreed.

OP, if it were me I would do the following:

let him stay home on the bad days. He’s trying not to disappoint you but he is school refusing. And then I’d tell the school, via email, that he’s refusing to attend due to the stress and anxiety their behaviour towards him is causing.

Why? Because they should have had the SENCO involved a long time ago, and they need a kick up the arse. If you explicitly say it is the school and the behaviour of certain school staff towards him - the school suddenly has to engage properly.

It’s been clear for a long time that endless detention doesn’t work. There’s something else here. And they’ve clearly decided that anything he does is wrongs and youve had to fight them to see their errors (eg the fizzy drink issue). They are also already aware they’ve stressed him to the point he stopped eating - and it’s clear they didn’t give a damn.

They won’t change their approach unless you force the issue. And making it clear that you now have EBSA makes it a problem they actually have to fix.

usedtobeaylis · 08/11/2025 16:13

The school seems to be treating talkative behaviour in a really extreme way. Some schools are exceptionally punitive and you can just end up in a horrible cycle. I actually feel for your boy here. The whole concept of sanction points annoys me anyway.

Sorry no advice but just wanted to offer some solidarity. It sounds really tough, especially when it's so at odds with the boy you know at home.

Shoutygouty · 08/11/2025 16:12

Also insist he is assessed to see if he required extra time - useful and gives you insight into which areas are a struggle.

Shoutygouty · 08/11/2025 16:10

OP you are working so hard because your lovely boy is challenging and very sensitive, overly focussed on fairness, highly distractible, slow to process verbal instructions and is someone who needs predictability.

whether these traits imply neurodiversity- they often do - or don’t he needs better support from then SENCO and a plan going forward. He is very stressed I think and overly likes the teachers who don’t make him feel like that. The overwhelming number of disaffected boys can be transformed by feeling valued, supported and taken seriously. He is lacking most of these with most staff and also has to take responsibility for that.

mondaycando1 · 08/11/2025 16:08

OP, my ds15 is in a very similar situation and is currently one behaviour level down from suspension. The behaviour for the last year or so has spectacularly ramped up with 2 teachers in particular, so much so he's having to have a "reset" meeting with both teachers next week. I am torn between he is genuinely being a dick in these lessons or they just have it in for him and he can do no right by them, I get that they are both subjects he hates but both on his mandatory curriculum. I have constant dialogue with school and it is bloody exhausting despite the senco being superb, its mainly now all been deferred to the year group lead / head now so it feels like even she has given up with him.

He has adhd and is medicated so while adhd makes it hard for him to focus/ study, everyone is at a loss with the issues in these subjects and like you I would love to be a fly on the wall to see this "persistent defiant and disrespectful behaviour".

Oh and lock his phone down during school hours

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Mumsytutu · 08/11/2025 15:58

SazKaka · 08/11/2025 15:39

Your son sounds like a normal 13y old boy.

Unfortunately schools don’t seem to like to deal with children who aren’t easy and willing to fit into their neat little boxes. Once they are targeted for their behaviour it seems they are never able to be seen any differently. For a brief time I worked in a senior school and viewed this myself. Once a teacher decides that a particular child is ‘trouble’ they never seem to be able to get away from the label and so eventually don’t even bother trying to.

Can you imagine how you would feel if you were constantly (at least 30 hours a week) being treated in a negative manner by adults who you were never allowed to question or talk back to (not in a rude manner either) for fear of further detentions etc?

Have you considered homeschooling him?

He sounds like he’s going to grow up and be a wonderful adult especially with a supportive family as you seem to be.

Wow. Thanks for this.
although I was looking for well rounded advice, it’s nice to hear that maybe he’s just a boy trying to find his way.
not that this solves our problems but I appreciate the positivity.
sadly home schooling is not an option. We both have careers that financially we wouldn’t be able to drop. Also, I tried it once during lockdown. Which is possibly why I do have so much respect for teachers, even if I am struggling to understand what’s going on and slowly loosing the will to live with some of them, I ultimately know their job is really difficult. I’m no teacher and I can’t pretend to be. My husband would be totally useless also.

I also want him to succeed in a mainstream environment somehow, I think it’s healthy in some respects. Important for life as it tough out there. I just didn’t expect it to be so stressful and exhausting for us all.

thanks again, we do try! x

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Emmz1510 · 08/11/2025 15:56

Very difficult. There may well be elements of additional needs here, possibly ADHD, and it would be worth looking into SENCO. But I also think people can be quick to jump to that, when a lot of what you are describing might be fairly normal for a kid his age. I also think there will be some teachers who tolerate kids being chatty and lively and having an opinion more than others, maybe even welcome it, more than others.
Is there any kind of other pattern to the classes he is being disciplined in other than it being teachers he doesn’t like? For example, does it happen in the more ‘academic’ subjects eg English, Maths, languages, or history as opposed to the more practical science, PE, art or tech? Because the more academic ones rely more on being able to sit still and be quiet, so he would stand out more.
Is it possible he is really bright and some of the classes are too easy and he needs more challenged? Equally, does he maybe have sight or hearing issues or dyslexia/dyspraxia that make some subjects more challenging for him and he’s playing up to compensate?
Keep reinforcing strategies for managing the difficulties that come up- e.g it’s great if you have something to say but make sure you put your hand up and don’t shout out, make sure your tone isn’t cheeky, ignore your mates carrying on or tell them to rap it.
Im afraid I think you probably do need to be putting consequences in place at home as well. It’s fair enough to say a problem has already been dealt with by detention, but clearly it’s not been dealt with if he keeps doing the same behaviours! If he gets a detention I think it’s fair to say he is also grounded that evening or loses phone privileges.

SazKaka · 08/11/2025 15:39

Your son sounds like a normal 13y old boy.

Unfortunately schools don’t seem to like to deal with children who aren’t easy and willing to fit into their neat little boxes. Once they are targeted for their behaviour it seems they are never able to be seen any differently. For a brief time I worked in a senior school and viewed this myself. Once a teacher decides that a particular child is ‘trouble’ they never seem to be able to get away from the label and so eventually don’t even bother trying to.

Can you imagine how you would feel if you were constantly (at least 30 hours a week) being treated in a negative manner by adults who you were never allowed to question or talk back to (not in a rude manner either) for fear of further detentions etc?

Have you considered homeschooling him?

He sounds like he’s going to grow up and be a wonderful adult especially with a supportive family as you seem to be.

VikaOlson · 08/11/2025 15:31

OhDear111 · 08/11/2025 13:46

@VikaOlson the op hasn’t said the school is draconian though and clearly the teachers have varying tolerances to disruption. It’s fairly easy for dc to not be late for a lesson because he phoned his mum. Surely he knew what the teacher would think and what the consequence would be. Who on earth wants to be a teacher with so many dc being like this? Why are they like this? No one used to phone home years ago? We didn’t even have a phone. How come there’s any need now?

I'm not sure if it's seen as 'draconian' any more, it would have been when we were at school but now it seems pretty standard to have lots of acronyms like SLANT and sanctions for looking around, fiddling with your pen, slouching etc.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/11/2025 15:12

MindyMcready · 08/11/2025 15:04

I’d state my life savings he has ADHD.

The lessons he gets sanctioned in - are these the topics he has low interest in?

Do you have ADHD yourself OP? You seem to have a strong desire for justice. It’s a common trait.

I was this person at school. I was clever but so easily distracted when I found something boring.

So would l.

Chatty✔️
fidgety✔️
can’t concentrate✔️
low level disruption✔️
needs parental reassurance to self regulate (phoning)✔️
Needs to be reminded✔️
Anxiety✔️
Eating problems✔️
Sensitive (bo girl old people)✔️
Can’t cope in rigid environments.✔️
Time blindness ( on phone in loo at start of lesson✔️

Interesting about lesson interest and behaviour. My dd had this.

Look at Dr Russel Berkeley

Does he get offended or hurt easily?

MindyMcready · 08/11/2025 15:04

I’d state my life savings he has ADHD.

The lessons he gets sanctioned in - are these the topics he has low interest in?

Do you have ADHD yourself OP? You seem to have a strong desire for justice. It’s a common trait.

I was this person at school. I was clever but so easily distracted when I found something boring.

Pippatpip · 08/11/2025 14:53

The more you write about him, it becomes clearer that he has some rather disjointed thinking at times. I think there is most definitely a SEND need there. Do look at DLD and also ADHD and potentially ASC. he is now really anxious about getting sanctions so is worse.

Badinfo · 08/11/2025 14:49

Rufus27 · 08/11/2025 09:47

If he was referred to me (SEN teacher in a secondary mainstream) the first things I’d want to rule out were issues relating to processing or language (such as DLD). I’d screen him for comprehension, processing speed, working memory and vocabulary to see if anything flagged up. If it didn’t, I’d then consider ADHD.
ADHD needs to be apparent in two settings to be diagnosed and the fact you don’t immediately see it at home makes me wonder if it’s either an underlying cognition or speech and language need - if his brain can’t take in information quickly, or doesn’t fully understand what it’s hearing, it makes sense that he’d become bored/distracted/fed up/demotivated.

This, he sounds just like my daughter, although she doesn't act out but she has slowly disengaged from lessons even though she is very bright so it's really frustrating. She's on the wait list for an ADHD assessment, she also had the screening done in school and it has shown she has delayed processing which is the reason she struggles in lessons, it takes her longer to process what's been said, so by the time she's understood it and is ready for the next bit of info, the class has already moved on to the 3rd bit if info and she's missed the bit in-between so gets lost and confused so she just gives up!
Definitely ask him how he finds following and understanding the lesson and ask for sendco intervention, you will probably have to fight really hard for this but just keep repeating yourself till they do it.

BerryCherryPie · 08/11/2025 14:42

OP my DS was really similar to yours in y7 & 8. It all came to a head at the beginning of yr8 after a fight on the school bus. The deputy head involved the SENCo and things slowly improved. He changed friendship group in yr9 and things got even better. DS is now in Yr 10 and is thriving.
Things that helped in his case were fidget toys, movement breaks (he has a timeout card for when he gets overwhelmed) and practising how to talk to teachers he doesn't gel with. He tends to do better sitting at the back because he isn't then turning around to see what he's missed but the agreement is he sits away from others to avoid talking.
He also has a TA mentor who specialises in supporting emotional regulation in the adhd/asd boys.
In his case DS was definitely also being a dick on purpose and changing friends has massively helped with this.
I would advise you to insist on meeting with the SENCo and push hard for support and investigation into adhd/learning needs.

ImthatBoleyngirl · 08/11/2025 14:42

I could have written this word for word about DD13. She has ADHD. Watching with interest.

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Mumsytutu · 08/11/2025 14:37

Jennyginger · 08/11/2025 14:10

But he doesn’t "get on well with everyone", does he? It sounds as if he has a cheeky, confident persona that appeals to some and not to others (the teachers he dislikes). If he knows in advance that he will be in trouble in some lessons, could he really not just keep his head down and keep quiet in those lessons? Either he doesn’t see it as important enough and chooses not to, or he has a medical problem. Your comment about being contacted if he is quiet, which you presumably thought was sort of amusing, shows that you don’t even expect him to shut up and let others get on with their learning. Are you sure he isn’t just living down to your expectations?

And if phones are banned in school, why are you encouraging him to take his and text Mummy from the toilets, ffs? You actually admit that you like him doing it!

It would be wonderful if you could actually sit in on some of his lessons, to see what’s going on, but I don’t suppose the school would allow it. You could try showing him the different lives of youngsters who did well in GCSEs and those who didn’t.

If all else, eg meeting the SENCO, fails, you might need to move him to a different school - but he might well encounter the same difficulties there. Continual low-level disruption may not be as bad as bullying but it is incredibly irritating for teachers and impacts the learning of everyone else. You don’t see that problem at home because he is not put in the position of having to share an adult's attention with 25 others or do things he would rather not do.

Thanks for your comment. I see your point.
so no, he doesn’t get on with everyone. He does outside of school. Adults and children.
he has always been chatty. Always. That is ultimately his personality. It has always been mentioned in parents evening. It was just never a serious issue before secondary school and I didn’t see this coming.

my comments regarding him being quiet is genuine. If he suddenly stopped talking I would be concerned. He always has so much to say. So much to talk about. If he suddenly stopped, it would be concerning (although school would be pleased). I would also to be honest as it would make things a lot easier.

I have tried. Begged him to be mute in certain classes. He feels he has tried on some days and still gets into trouble. He feels his card is marked and even when it’s not him he’s the easy target. I would love to sit in on a class so I can figure this out and sort it but as you guessed, that isn’t possible.

i don’t like him texting me. I feel absolute dread when I see his name pop up on my phone during the day. I like that he feels he can text me which is very different. I have a teenager that communicates with me. I didn’t think that would be the case. I value our relationship and he listens to me.

that said, I am going to talk to him about this considering everyone’s comments on the topic and discuss leaving his phone at home during the day. I think it’s worth a try to let him figure things out without being able to contact me via his phone. Not sure that will help, but it’s worth a try.

appreciate all your points, thank you

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