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If money wasnt an issue

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Swan2019 · 01/10/2025 09:20

Would you send your kids privately?

Struggling with the decision. We have a good local state school and are in catchment, it's enormous though. I feel that they'll survive it rather than do brilliantly there.

Have inherited enough money to send kids privately without worrying about it.

Would you do it? Is it worth it?

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LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:43

If your aggressive reaction to a calm and honest answer to a question is any indication of what a private school education gets you, I'm glad my kids and I are well out of it.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2025 10:40

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:36

Race is only one element. I also mean variety in terms of finance, SEN, disability, academic prowess, etc.

Not that the debate is applicable to our family anyway, the cost of private education is prohibitive to the vast majority of people. But the OP asked "if money was no object", and I'm answering honestly. We will not ever be able to afford to send our kids to private school, so it's fortunate for us that the situation aligns with our feelings about private education.

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25% of DC in independent schools are SEN. 25% of DC in independent schools are lower income and on fee assistance.

You are deluded if you don't think that like attracts like in state schools. DC from similar backgrounds will naturally gravitate to others like them.

You are basing your prejudice on outdated and ignorant stereotypes. It's fine, many do but i do find it strange when parents say they would purposely jeopardise the education and well being of their DC based on random "morals".

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:36

twistyizzy · 03/10/2025 10:29

"Heterogeneous intake", you mean like the state schools around us which are 98-99% white British Vs independent which is around 76% white British?

Race is only one element. I also mean variety in terms of finance, SEN, disability, academic prowess, etc.

Not that the debate is applicable to our family anyway, the cost of private education is prohibitive to the vast majority of people. But the OP asked "if money was no object", and I'm answering honestly. We will not ever be able to afford to send our kids to private school, so it's fortunate for us that the situation aligns with our feelings about private education.

lunar1 · 03/10/2025 10:33

Local state schools have always been an issue for us. The only good ones were faith schools, and because my sons are Hindu we were discriminated against. I could afford private so that’s the option we took.

my eldest had his choice of sixth form, and there is no faith based criteria, two extra years of private is a drop in the ocean at this point regarding fees, so let him have free choice. He opted for the local state college and is absolutely loving it.

Ubertomusic · 03/10/2025 10:31

Swan2019 · 03/10/2025 10:17

@Ubertomusic because it isn't a terrible option.
But yes, i don't know. We should just go for it - that was the point of this post.

We have first hand experience of three very good state schools, one top grammar, and three private schools including one super selective.

The main difference I could see is building confidence, resilience and competitiveness. No comp is focussed on that as they're usually overwhelmed with so many issues nowadays, even in affluent areas.

IMO private education is not really about exam results, it's more about developing personality and character.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2025 10:29

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:26

Yes I would. Doing otherwise contributes to the issues of "good vs horrendous" schools, that's the whole point. Schools, children, and teachers are all better off with a heterogeneous intake.

"Heterogeneous intake", you mean like the state schools around us which are 98-99% white British Vs independent which is around 76% white British?

twistyizzy · 03/10/2025 10:27

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:26

Yes I would. Doing otherwise contributes to the issues of "good vs horrendous" schools, that's the whole point. Schools, children, and teachers are all better off with a heterogeneous intake.

So you would purposely disadvantage the education of your children just because of some misplaced misunderstanding of what independent schools are?
I find that fascinating as it's alien to me as a parent that another parent would do that.

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:26

Yes I would. Doing otherwise contributes to the issues of "good vs horrendous" schools, that's the whole point. Schools, children, and teachers are all better off with a heterogeneous intake.

turkeyboots · 03/10/2025 10:25

I dream of a flexible boarding option, it would make work travel (and maybe even a weekend away) easy.
But otherwise I prefer a good big school to a small one. More options, more people, more support. Small schools are tricky if you don't click with the cohort for any reason and privates tend to be smaller.

twistyizzy · 03/10/2025 10:22

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:19

No, I would never send my children to private school. I think a two-tier schooling system is hugely detrimental to society. I also think that "best" and "most expensive" are not the same thing. Supporting and encouraging your children with schoolwork and other interests is more valuable than throwing money at private education.

Easy to have high morals if you have access to good state schools. Not all of us are that privileged.
Would you put morals ahead of your DC well being or education if their state schools were horrendous/they were being bullied/your DC had SEN which local state couldn't accommodate? Or would you then put your morals to one side to best support your DC?

Offthecorporateratrace · 03/10/2025 10:21

Finance wasn't a complete non issue but we have a fairly good lifestyle. So for us it came down to what was the state provision like, local secondary school was not great, so ultimately we decided to send to private. Don't regret it for a minute, and thankfully just about to come out of the other end as son in the last year.
In your position it sounds like you have a good state option but if you have concerns around your children and the number of other pupils then I would definitely go private. It is an individual choice though.

LiveshipParagon · 03/10/2025 10:19

No, I would never send my children to private school. I think a two-tier schooling system is hugely detrimental to society. I also think that "best" and "most expensive" are not the same thing. Supporting and encouraging your children with schoolwork and other interests is more valuable than throwing money at private education.

Swan2019 · 03/10/2025 10:17

@Ubertomusic because it isn't a terrible option.
But yes, i don't know. We should just go for it - that was the point of this post.

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Helpamom55 · 03/10/2025 10:16

Ubertomusic · 03/10/2025 09:44

Then why are you considering a worse option at all?

Agree. Send them private.

Swan2019 · 03/10/2025 10:14

@howshouldibehave yeah, it isn't that sort of situation.
Comp is a comp in a very affluent area. Private is academically selective.

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howshouldibehave · 03/10/2025 10:09

It depends on the schools- we have grammars locally so they get the high achievers. There is one private secondary which gets pretty awful results-there is no way I would pay tens of thousands to send a child there.

TheNightingalesStarling · 03/10/2025 10:08

Pit money aside, and the idea of private vs state.

Which school do you think will benefit your children more and where they will be happiest? Which school to they prefer?

Swan2019 · 03/10/2025 10:05

Yes, i'm pretty confident that they'll come out with better results if we send them privately.
The state school is good and they wont do badly there, but they'll do better in smaller classes with more attention.
I'm not so bothered about results though. Bright kids will do well in both of these situations. It's more about nurture and opportunity i think.

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GhislaineDeFeligondeRose · 03/10/2025 10:04

Yes I would. Mine have finished school now and both did well at a Comp. Both were happy at secondary. One was happy at primary, the other not so much. If I could have given them the best, then yes I would have. They both got AAB at A level which is good, but they probably could have done slightly better at private. Both had missing teachers in year 12

Needmorelego · 03/10/2025 10:03

Depends what you want from education.
I'd pay for an alternative style private school like Summerhill or for tutors and groups for home education.

Sadcafe · 03/10/2025 09:59

Difficult to say, good friends of ours sent there DS to private school from primary , same age as our DS, yes he did lots of fancy things that ours didn’t, learnt fencing for example, far more adventurous school trips, but did he actually leave with vastly better qualifications and go to a better university, no. It doesn’t automatically guarantee success. Have you asked if they would want to do it

Manthide · 03/10/2025 09:56

Dd1 was a coaster at primary school, always did well but not exceptional. She went private for secondary and as the academic level was much higher she started to put more effort in. Ended up with all A star gcses, A levels and read medicine at Cambridge. She is 34 now.

Ubertomusic · 03/10/2025 09:44

Swan2019 · 03/10/2025 09:29

These replies are brilliant, thank you so much.

To respond a little bit:

Yes, the grandparents who left us this money would be pleased that we'd be choosing to spend it on education (rather than cars / holidays etc..)

Yes, we will still have an extremely comfortable life. Yes, I know we're very lucky.

Yes, we will still be able to help the DC with university / house deposits etc when they're older. This 'school fee' pot of money is completely separate. We've already paid off the mortgage.

Yes, the private school we're looking at is academically excellent but also well rounded. Lots of music, sport, extra curricular activities. It doesn't give off a posh / snobby / exclusive vibe.
I wouldn't be concerned about my children turning into posh tw*ts, mainly because I wouldn't I let them...

The state school that we are in catchment for is OFSTED Outstanding.
It is massive. Two thousand plus students..ten form entry. Every class is a class of 30. It's a lovely school though.

Kids are bright and able. They aren't off the scale, but doing well at primary school. There's a small amount of coasting going on.
I'm most interested to know whether they will do 'better' with a private secondary education, rather than continue to coast...

I WOULD expect more of my kids if we were choosing to spend this money on their education. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I WOULD hope for confident, well rounded, happy young people who are able to hold their own in the world at the other side...

Then why are you considering a worse option at all?

twistyizzy · 03/10/2025 09:42

@Swan2019 we chose independent gor secondary as local state secondary options are truly dire plus DD is academic but lazy.
It is hard with VAT but we are really happy with the choice. Sport 4 days per week, she's won an academic scholarship for Yrs 9-11 and is maturing into a kind, thoughtful and confident young person. She's had opportunities she wouldn't have had in the state schools and has grabbed each one.
The only downside is the negative attitude displayed by some MN posters. In the real world no-one cares where you send your DC to school as long as they turn out to be decent human beings.

EmpressoftheMundane · 03/10/2025 09:40

I’d go for it in the position you just outlined. Having high expectations is not a bad thing.

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