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GCSE English Lit and Language review of marking

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SomersetBrie · 26/08/2025 16:11

There is lots of chat about review of marking on the GCSEs threads but I am interested specifically in anyone who is reviewing English (Lang or Lit) and whether the review provides an increase in grade.
DS, predicted a 7, got a 6 in both. He is not very close to the grade boundary (4 marks away) but the difference in marks between Paper 1 and Paper 2 have encouraged me to request access to the papers and see if it's worth a review.

Is anyone else asking for a review? I am curious to know how many marks people go up/down and if it results in a change of grade for many people.
(DS does not need a 7 but he was expecting a 7 out of 1 or other at least.)
This is AQA.

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SomersetBrie · 28/08/2025 13:41

Lockdownsceptic · 28/08/2025 13:21

The op has already said her son doesn’t need a 7. If he did it would be worth it. But he doesn’t so it’s not.

Thankfully, it's not your decision whether it's worth it or not - unless you are the exam officer at DS's school?

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Foxesandsquirrels · 28/08/2025 13:40

@NorthenAdventure I've been on this thread since p1 and someone mentioned the use of it and possible trials, another poster a few pages later mentioned it again, someone misread it, and ran with it and now we've got to the stage where people think it's actually happened this exam series. It's like the Mumsnet Chinese whispers.

NorthenAdventure · 28/08/2025 13:38

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 07:45

@Examinetheexams all of the boards are trialling it, and certainly exams with multiple choice components already use it to do those parts.

I don't know of any board using AI on large scale live exams though. It's coming but it's not there yet.

I agree. There is a LOT of misinformation on this thread!

NorthenAdventure · 28/08/2025 13:35

Examinetheexams · 28/08/2025 07:35

@MrsHamletmy apologies for misremembering the poster.

Having searched there are a number of TES articles showing AQA were trialling AI to ‘mark the marker’ last year and it was purely at the research stage. Unsure this year exactly how AI is being trialled in exams but exam boards are definitely working on how to incorporate it into marking.

There are some fascinating articles on the impact of AI (not just in secondary assessments) and where future assessments may be heading. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/aug/22/a-levels-and-gcses-need-overhaul-to-keep-pace-with-generative-ai-experts-say

AI has significantly upped the pace and need for educational reform.

One thing is for sure, our children’s children won’t be all sitting in a hall, pen in hand, with a nail/biting wait for teachers to mark their papers.

But this doesn't say that AI is being used to examine in this exam series. Quite a lot of posters have mentioned it is/has, but does anyone actually have a source that states that?

(I'm involved in AI/examining trials myself, but certainly not AI being let loose to independently mark the 2025 summer series exam papers!)

NorthenAdventure · 28/08/2025 13:27

BreakfastClub · 28/08/2025 01:27

@NorthenAdventure
Is it respected by teachers and universities? Could it be scrapped going forward?
BTEC could be a problem

Im just thinking future wise things will have to change but not sure how.

Well, many universities do lots of 'coursework' - ie assignments that count towards the final degree grade, especially for courses like English Literature. But it is problematic in universities, yes.

It's already been 'scrapped' for most UK exam board qualifications as GCSE. For my subject, it's International GCSE that has coursework as an optional route.

Some schools are moving away from it, or doing it under controlled conditions now (like the old 'controlled assessment') to prevent AI usage. This isn't an official requirement though.

Further change is definitely needed, I fully agree.

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 13:25

Since AI makes up quotations (yes year 12 students, I know the texts better than AI), I think the notion of it actually assessing live marking NOW is concerning.

Except, of course, multiple choice questions. Which it can easily do.

Ohyesyoudidohnoyounever · 28/08/2025 13:24

Have only managed to get through to school today, had to ask what the raw marks were for the grade 7 English Language(Edexl), as they were not on the statement of results. Glad I did, as was only one mark off an 8. Should know in a couple of weeks.

NorthenAdventure · 28/08/2025 13:21

Examinetheexams · 28/08/2025 07:00

The source was a previous poster @MrsHamlet ( if I recall correctly, (apologies if not) who seems to be knowledgeable about the whole review process. I believe they said that AI was being trialled in some capacity in the GCSE marking by being given instructions to apply the mark scheme to answers.

I'll have a look and see if I can find the link. I'm actually involved in AI marking trials myself, but those all have humans doing it as well as part of the trial- this is the first time I'd heard that AI literally has any marking responsibility!

Lockdownsceptic · 28/08/2025 13:21

Molko1503 · 28/08/2025 06:55

Well aren’t you a ray of sunshine?

it isn’t a waste of time. My daughter has Autism, had her heart set on biology and needs a 7 to do it. She was 1 mark off an 8 in multiple subjects and she put her heart and soul into some of them. She is very passionate about English Lit, she said she included everything she could have was tutored for months beforehand on what constitutes an 8/9. Must have written multiple papers at grade 8 before the exam. She’s quite demoralised she put in so much effort for that subject and got the same mark as all of her other GCSE’s. She wanted her hard work and her passion for that subject recognised.

just for reference - my daughter was getting 3s and 4s last year. She’s had as much as 40% time off school in some years due to her conditions. She got straight A’s and shocked all of us. But certain subjects she lived and breathed and being one mark away is rubbish. And being Autistic it’s bothering her.

The op has already said her son doesn’t need a 7. If he did it would be worth it. But he doesn’t so it’s not.

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 13:11

outofofficeagain · 28/08/2025 13:08

Oh bless him 🥰. He will go far!

He was a very naughty boy - always in trouble for being late or rude ... except to my lessons.

When I asked why I was not constantly having to tell him off, he said "because you're not a dick". I'll take that.

Foxesandsquirrels · 28/08/2025 13:10

Bufftailed · 28/08/2025 13:09

Sorry to hear. Hopefully not affecting next steps.

Very quick turnaround. Which board?

I bet it's Edexcel. They're the only ones that do priority reviews for GCSE. I have a feeling ours has come back but the exams office is closed now based on their OOO message.

Foxesandsquirrels · 28/08/2025 13:10

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 13:01

I wish we could award kindness marks - but OFQUAL wouldn't approve ;)

I've just looked at one of my own students' papers. He's struggled with his "voice" all the way through so I told him to write it as if was talking to me. Several times, he's written "So, Mrs Hamlet, I'm sure you'll agree..." or variations thereof. I'm so blooming proud of him even though he didn't get his 4 :(

Oh this would make me cry. I'm a dyslexia tutor and it makes me so happy when I read their work and it's clear they're doing exactly what I said, it's just funny when it's word for word 😂

Bufftailed · 28/08/2025 13:09

YoniHuman · 28/08/2025 12:42

My son was predicted 6’s, 7’s & 8’s across the board. English language he got 6. Lit he got a 3. It was the only subject he didn’t “pass”. He was one mark away from a 4.
We requested a review, but the outcome didn’t change. I didn’t see his paper, but I know it was his least favourite subject. Annoying, but I expect he just didn’t write enough.

Sorry to hear. Hopefully not affecting next steps.

Very quick turnaround. Which board?

outofofficeagain · 28/08/2025 13:08

Oh bless him 🥰. He will go far!

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 13:01

I wish we could award kindness marks - but OFQUAL wouldn't approve ;)

I've just looked at one of my own students' papers. He's struggled with his "voice" all the way through so I told him to write it as if was talking to me. Several times, he's written "So, Mrs Hamlet, I'm sure you'll agree..." or variations thereof. I'm so blooming proud of him even though he didn't get his 4 :(

outofofficeagain · 28/08/2025 12:57

Foxesandsquirrels · 28/08/2025 11:07

Yes this is how it looked for us. You could see which exams had special con applied. If it was rejected it says so, on a couple of ours it was blank so they had to apply again and SLT had to sign off. But yh frustratingly it doesn't say what %

Exams office got back to me pretty much straight away and said Special Consideration had been applied, but they couldn’t say what. I doubt they’d go back and give him the extra mark on English Language just to be kind.

In English Literature, his Shakespeare paper was an anomaly but they’d need to give him an extra 9 marks to take him up
to a 9 (he just sceaped a 7) so chances are just didn’t do what was required on the day. His paper 1 was marked as a 9. So 8 overall seems like a good result.

YoniHuman · 28/08/2025 12:42

YoniHuman · 28/08/2025 12:42

My son was predicted 6’s, 7’s & 8’s across the board. English language he got 6. Lit he got a 3. It was the only subject he didn’t “pass”. He was one mark away from a 4.
We requested a review, but the outcome didn’t change. I didn’t see his paper, but I know it was his least favourite subject. Annoying, but I expect he just didn’t write enough.

This was last year.

YoniHuman · 28/08/2025 12:42

My son was predicted 6’s, 7’s & 8’s across the board. English language he got 6. Lit he got a 3. It was the only subject he didn’t “pass”. He was one mark away from a 4.
We requested a review, but the outcome didn’t change. I didn’t see his paper, but I know it was his least favourite subject. Annoying, but I expect he just didn’t write enough.

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 12:42

No point in a clerical check for English - the system does the adding up for us!

Bufftailed · 28/08/2025 11:44

Examinetheexams · 28/08/2025 10:57

Yes it’s probably a lottery across schools. Just a bit annoying that some schools and staff seem really proactive and ours presumably is closed but not even an out of office response to say so. We are just in limbo. Can’t see the papers, don’t know what their language score even was.

DC state comp head replied to my email on Thursday saying four would go for remark (don’t pounce anyone, I know it is a review) within a week due to being very close to boundary. I have no idea though if teachers are reviewing scripts first/ deciding on which papers or what the approach is (clerical check first??). I think I’ll reach out next week. DC has his sixth form place so it’s not urgent. I am not mentioning it to DS at all (checked he was happy for them to go in last week) because just trying to leave him be so he can let it settle (grades overall down quite a bit so he is still a bit shaken)

Foxesandsquirrels · 28/08/2025 11:07

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 11:01

It'll be on the download - I can see who in the cohort got it but not what %. Exams might be the place to ask first - not everyone will have access to the results download. I know some of my colleagues don't.

Yes this is how it looked for us. You could see which exams had special con applied. If it was rejected it says so, on a couple of ours it was blank so they had to apply again and SLT had to sign off. But yh frustratingly it doesn't say what %

MrsHamlet · 28/08/2025 11:01

outofofficeagain · 28/08/2025 10:52

I don’t think we will bother. Someone has to be on the borderline and I think it’s a good lesson to be happy with an 8.

He had special consideration but only 1 or 2% so I might get him to check with his English teacher that it was definitely added.

It'll be on the download - I can see who in the cohort got it but not what %. Exams might be the place to ask first - not everyone will have access to the results download. I know some of my colleagues don't.

Examinetheexams · 28/08/2025 10:57

Yes it’s probably a lottery across schools. Just a bit annoying that some schools and staff seem really proactive and ours presumably is closed but not even an out of office response to say so. We are just in limbo. Can’t see the papers, don’t know what their language score even was.

outofofficeagain · 28/08/2025 10:52

I don’t think we will bother. Someone has to be on the borderline and I think it’s a good lesson to be happy with an 8.

He had special consideration but only 1 or 2% so I might get him to check with his English teacher that it was definitely added.

Foxesandsquirrels · 28/08/2025 10:49

Examinetheexams · 28/08/2025 10:45

It looks like the private schools are far more invested in getting the reviews done which is understandable as they have to keep customers happy and want desirable grade profiles to show to prospective customers.

Still heard nothing from my DCs exam office at state school in response to DCs request for language score and access to papers.

I really don't think so. Like I said earlier, a lot of state schools have a stupid blanket policy of sending any papers that are 1-2 marks off the next grade and paying for it if the child is PP. Private schools don't have the hell of the compare schools league tables to contend with either.